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Tue Oct 12, 2021, 05:33 PM

FDA authorizes first e-cigarette, cites benefit for smokers

Source: AP


FILE - This Wednesday, June 18, 2014 file photo shows VUSE Digital Vapor Cigarette packaging during a launch event held by R.J. Reynolds Vapor Company in Philadelphia. On Tuesday, Oct. 12, 2021, heath officials authorized the first electronic cigarettes in the U.S., saying R.J. Reynolds vaping products can benefit adult smokers. (Mark Stehle/AP Images for R.J. Reynolds Vapor Company, File)

WASHINGTON (AP) — For the first time, the Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday authorized an electronic cigarette, saying R.J. Reynolds’ vaping device can help smokers cut back on conventional cigarettes. E-cigarettes have been sold in the U.S. for more than a decade with minimal government oversight or research. Facing a court deadline, the FDA has been conducting a sweeping review of vaping products to determine which ones should be allowed to remain on the market.The agency said in September it had rejected applications for more than a million e-cigarettes and related products, mainly due to their potential appeal to underage teens.

But regulators delayed making decisions on most of the major vaping companies, including market leader Juul, which is still pending. Tuesday’s decision only applies to Vuse’s Solo e-cigarette and its tobacco-flavored nicotine cartridges. The agency said data from the company showed the e-cigarette helped smokers significantly reduce their use of cigarettes. While the products can now be legally sold in the U.S., the FDA stressed they are neither safe nor “FDA approved,” and that people who don’t smoke shouldn’t use them. Launched in 2013, Vuse Solo is a rechargeable metallic device that is shaped like a traditional cigarette. The FDA said it rejected 10 other requests from the company for other flavored products, but did not disclose details. The agency is still reviewing the company’s request to sell a menthol-flavored nicotine formula.

“Today’s authorizations are an important step toward ensuring all new tobacco products undergo the FDA’s robust, scientific premarket evaluation,” said Mitch Zeller, director of the FDA’s tobacco center, in a statement. “The manufacturer’s data demonstrates its tobacco-flavored products could benefit addicted adult smokers who switch to these products – either completely or with a significant reduction in cigarette consumption.” E-cigarettes first appeared in the U.S. around 2007 with the promise of providing smokers with a less harmful alternative to smoking traditional tobacco cigarettes. The devices heat a nicotine solution in a vapor that’s inhaled.

But there has been little rigorous study of whether e-cigarettes truly help smokers quit. And efforts by the FDA to begin vetting vaping products and their claims were repeatedly slowed by industry lobbying and competing political interests. In recent years, the vaping market grew to include hundreds of companies selling an array of devices and nicotine solutions in various flavors and strengths. But the vast majority of the market is controlled by a few companies including Juul Labs, which is partially owned by Altria, and Vuse.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/technology-science-business-health-126c438648d433fdfe987c397e576b26



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Reply FDA authorizes first e-cigarette, cites benefit for smokers (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Oct 12 OP
S/V Loner Oct 12 #1
SoCalNative Oct 12 #3
S/V Loner Oct 12 #13
BootinUp Oct 12 #21
displacedtexan Oct 13 #26
Aussie105 Oct 12 #2
OilemFirchen Oct 12 #4
BlueIdaho Oct 12 #5
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 12 #9
BlueIdaho Oct 12 #12
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 12 #14
BlueIdaho Oct 12 #15
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 12 #17
BlueIdaho Oct 12 #20
Phoenix61 Oct 12 #22
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 12 #8
LunaSea Oct 14 #29
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 14 #30
SouthernDem4ever Oct 12 #6
Ford_Prefect Oct 12 #7
Hugh_Lebowski Oct 12 #10
BootinUp Oct 12 #19
LiberatedUSA Oct 12 #16
Ford_Prefect Oct 12 #23
LiberatedUSA Oct 13 #25
RamblingRose Oct 13 #27
MiniMe Oct 12 #11
BootinUp Oct 12 #18
Withywindle Oct 13 #24
ruet Oct 13 #28

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:03 PM

1. I smoked for 50 years and...

I haven't had a cigarette in 5 years thanks to vaping. Obviously it isn't the best option but it is the right option for me.

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Response to S/V Loner (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:16 PM

3. Same here

smoked for almost 30 years, quit for 7, then started again due to stress and kept doing so for 3+ years, until I started using the Juul device and the regular tobacco flavored disposable cartridges.

Maybe not for everyone but I haven't had or wanted a regular cigarette in over 2 years.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:21 PM

13. I have no cravings to go back to cigarettes.

I am sure I also do it due to stress. I tell people I am self medicating.

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Response to S/V Loner (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 08:21 PM

21. yep. me too. nt

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Response to S/V Loner (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 08:00 AM

26. Me too. 8 years next January 9th.

A combination of Bupropion & tobacco flavor vaping has worked for me. Tapered off the Bupropion in a year and reduced the nicotine level down to 3% last year.
Now I don't even take the vape pen when I go out or travel. No more panic, and real cigarettes smell awful to me.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:06 PM

2. They are not safe.

I don't care if Big Tobacco or any Big Business say they are safe.

I don't care if the FDA approves. (Way too much politics involved there.)

I'd like to know what is in them.

Breathe some vape on a mirror and look at the sticky mess it leaves.

Skin patches to deliver nicotine if you are an addict are safer. Or the gum.

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:23 PM

4. Where have I read that before?

Oh. From the article:

"...the FDA stressed they are neither safe nor “FDA approved,” and that people who don’t smoke shouldn’t use them."

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:38 PM

5. They may be useful as a means to an end

But as a substitute? I doubt it’s much better. My ex-son in-law went from smoking to vaping like a chimney. His cardiopulmonary physician is not impressed. But like I said, it may be a great exit ramp for smokers.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:13 PM

9. When you say 'not impressed', do you mean the doc has done comprehensive before/after testing?

What tests, and over what time period?

Why do you 'doubt' it's much better?

There's 70+ years of evidence that smoking tobacco causes cancer, emphysema/COPD, and a number of other serious conditions.

Vaping has existed for 14 years and there's currently no evidence of any deadly results. Addiction is for real, to be sure. But that's all we know for sure.

So you're guessing.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:18 PM

12. Well for starters The FDA itself

Says vaping is no safer than smoking and that people who do not smoke should not start vaping. So, by extension I could say the FDA is not impressed with vaping as a long term solution. But go ahead and be a doubting Thomas. No skin off my nose.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:29 PM

14. "FDA says vaping is no safer than smoking" ... where do they say that?

"and that people who do not smoke should not start vaping"

Well, duh. Obviously

You referred to a specific doctor you know of 'being unimpressed' by a patients switch from smoking to vaping, so I asked a simple question about that particular situation ... do you have any actual details there?

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:37 PM

15. Your addiction it talking

Have a nice life.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:53 PM

17. So you got nothing ... but the proverbial sound and fury

Thanks, I will

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 08:20 PM

20. No...

If you took the time to actually read the article this thread is about you would see the FDA’s position on vaping in black and white. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 08:23 PM

22. Vaping is much better than smoking.

I know what my lung capacity was when I was smoking and what it is now. I’ve been vaping for 5 years. Yes, it has nicotine but that’s pretty much it. My doctor was glad I quit smoking and told me she isn’t concerned about vaping.

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:10 PM

8. Other than exactly the nature of the food-grade flavoring in what I vape

I know exactly what is 'in it'.

Vape fluid is Vegetable Glycerin (60-100%), Propylene Glycol(40-0%), Nicotine (0 to 12mg/L), and food flavoring.

There's no mystery other than the flavoring.

The 'sticky mess' is vegetable glycerin. It has some slippery, oil-like qualities but is devoid of actual lipids ... basically it's vegetable oil with all the fat/oil removed.

Nobody knows for sure yet it's 'safe' ... so when you say 'they are not safe' ... the reality is ... you don't know that.

It's addictive though, no question there.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:26 AM

29. They did find a test group-

Theatrical workers who have long exposure to "fog machines" that vaporize the same glycerin/glycol formula to make smokey effects or to enhance lighting found the stuff is no good for you in large heavy doses daily for hours at a time. Smaller periodic levels showed little risk as I recollect.

I came across the info while looking into buying an e-cig device.

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Response to LunaSea (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:29 AM

30. Thanks, I'd be keen to read it if you have a link :) nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:47 PM

6. If I vape, I'll smoke, and chew, and use the patch, sometimes all at once

so no, I had to quit Nicotine completely - way too addictive for me.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 06:52 PM

7. Someone has been bought. Q.E.D.

There IS evidence not in the U.S. that makes clear the degree of damage this product causes. Big Tobacco hasn't gone away. They now dress up in a different suit and pretend to be customer conscious.

They are a billions of dollars business with no stake in getting clean at all. This is one more hook to catch victims on and Nothing else.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:15 PM

10. "makes clear the degree of damage this product causes"

Yeah?

Please enlighten me on this evidence

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 08:20 PM

19. Non existant. don't hold thy breath. nt

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:43 PM

16. I love it!

“We can’t stand you damn dirty smokers!”

“We have a smokeless way to quit, so you don’t have to yell at us.”

“Gosh damn it, yelling at you is what gets us through the day, so we are opposed to your damn vaping. We need you smokers smoking so we can scream about you smoking!”

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 11:37 PM

23. Big tobacco has never been found to tell the truth about any product they pedal.

That isn't my opinion that is the record.

If this product eases your sense of addiction good for you.

They didn't spend millions to help you. They have only one goal as has been proven by decades of testimony in their own records. They are ruthless, they are enormously wealthy and influence governments in much the same way that the MIC does.

Like Big Pharma they have for too much influence over those who make significant decisions about their products and conduct. If this product is such a boon why do they insist on being the only purveyor? Why have they spent millions of today's money to offer so many options that are not such a boon? They sell one product that used as directed is fatal to the user by intention and design.

My wife died because of this. I have no trust to offer them. Your addiction is your problem. I trust them no more than I do the Columbian Cocaine cartels for exactly the same reasons. There is a point where a repeatedly proven liar bears no option to be believed.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 05:07 AM

25. I don't have an addiction.

I stopped smoking in 2012 about six months after switching e-smoking. Helps one quit while being able to mimic the smoking actions which is part of the addiction.

Yelling at smokers is fun. The less smokers, the less fun. The more ways to quit, the less smokers. Hence, vaping must go so we can get our anger fix. “You damn dirty, smokers!”

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:54 AM

27. + 1

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:16 PM

11. No Thanks

I smoked for almost 50 years, quit cold turkey 3 years ago thanks to a quadruple bypass. Haven't been tempted since, and won't go back to it. Not trying to get anybody else to quit and never thought I would quit cold turkey, but that's my story

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 08:19 PM

18. This news kind of made my day. nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:01 AM

24. I KNEW IT

The crackdown on indie vape shops and flavored vape juice manufacturers has nothing to do with protecting teens and EVERYTHING to do with clearing the market for a goddamn RJ REYNOLDS product.

What do you want to bet it'll be prohibitively expensive?

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Response to Withywindle (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:03 PM

28. I Bet They Promised To Include Vuse Money In Their MSA Payments.

Dirty AF.

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