'There will be things that people can't get,' at Christmas, White House warns
Source: Reuters
WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - White House officials, scrambling to relieve global supply bottlenecks choking U.S. ports, highways and railways, warn that Americans may face higher prices and some empty shelves this Christmas season.
The supply crisis, driven in part by the global COVID-19 pandemic, not only threatens to dampen U.S. spending at a critical time, it also poses a political risk for President Joe Biden.
The latest Reuters/Ipsos poll shows the economy continues to be the most important issue for Democrats and Republicans alike.
The White House has been trying to tackle inflation-inducing supply bottlenecks of everything from meat to semiconductors, and formed a task force in June that meets weekly and named a "bottleneck" czar to push private-sector companies to ease snarls.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/americans-may-not-get-some-christmas-treats-white-house-officials-warn-2021-10-12/
underpants
(182,992 posts)Fox is heavy on blaming him. The first 10 months nites I saw was about nothing but gas prices and empty shelves
forthemiddle
(1,383 posts)They would get the blame. Even though its not their fault, its the ups an downs of politics.
If the economy, and if life was great Biden would get the cudos.
It is the way of the world. Not going to change that.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)those days are long gone.
wnylib
(21,731 posts)the pandemic going, IMO.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Maybe its time to start making things in the US again.
jimfields33
(16,073 posts)I wonder what happened to it.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Without thinking about the total price of buying from China.
jimfields33
(16,073 posts)Chinas products are made by children. Im of course guilty due to buying things but Im surprised it doesnt get more attention.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)But lets face it, until recently work conditions in China have been hidden from the average consumer. Now would be a great time to look to our own country to make more of the stuff we consume.
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calimary
(81,565 posts)Handmade gifts have always struck me as the best kind. Besides, you never have to worry about duplication.
jimfields33
(16,073 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(5,195 posts)And, there is another benefit to that practice. If you wish to really see someone's true feelings, give them a nice, hand-made gift. If you get the 'OMGs, this is awesome!' or some exaggerated reply, or if you get that half-interested smile and thanks, keep it in mind. Because nothing says 'I want things that allow me to compensate for this tiny appendage so I can wave it in front of everyone!' like that half smile and dry thanks you get when you give them something that you put real time and effort into. But hey, you get to practice your hand-made card making skills then.
calimary
(81,565 posts)Ive collected bags of em. And Im well-armed with glue guns! And Christmas is coming!
If you make someone a handmade gift, you can always be pretty sure theyre not already gonna have one.
Unwind Your Mind
(2,042 posts)Quilting mostly, she knows everyones colors and is so thoughtful.
Im in evacuation land here in CA and my treasure box contains several of her creations.
Its a wonderful thing 💕💕
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BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Workers have real value and putting money into their hands feeds the nations economy. Its not trickle down - its a bottom up economy. Always has been, always will be.
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BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)The things we used to think of as advantages of the big box store now seem not so great. Maybe starving the monster is possible, even necessary.
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BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)FWIW - I have a washer/dryer that are made in America. Same goes for my dishwasher. My fridge was made in Canada I call that close enough. But I sure see youre point. Tell people to shop local and they think sand candles. 😉
I have nothing against a global marketplace as long as it doesnt get abused to drive down wages and worker rights. But there must be some way to reclaim some of our manufacturing base here at home. I see the idea of a global minimum corporate tax has been endorsed - maybe that will help.
Marthe48
(17,090 posts)79% of my county voted for traitor. I don't want to give them my money!
Staying home because of Covid is my 2nd reason for not going into local shops.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)You describe my situation to a tee. But there are still options for buying American made stuff and avoiding the big box stores - which mostly also support right wing politicians.
paleotn
(18,003 posts)American consumers are use to cheap prices and the near zero inflation driven by low and lower cost producers. Getting the average Jill and Joe to pony up more for the good of the country is a tough sell. Hell, we can't even get them to wear freaking masks during a pandemic.
paleotn
(18,003 posts)Globalized production and supply chain systems took years to build and will take years to unravel. Lots of products and their component parts haven't been made anywhere in the US in decades, so the capital infrastructure would have to be rebuilt. That's difficult, expensive and time consuming even if you can get producers to go along. Biggest problem of all is getting Americans use to higher prices after decades of cheap and cheaper from leaned out supply chains connecting low cost producers. The "better quality" paradigm of the 90's and 00's doesn't work anymore as foreign producers in many industries churn out products just as good and sometimes better than their American counterparts from 40 years ago. It's a tangled web we've weaved all these year and won't get unwound anytime soon.
Marthe48
(17,090 posts)There used to be warehouses and items were stocked way ahead. Then to save money, companies stopped having extensive warehouses, or stockrooms. I think that's another reason things are scarce. I wasn't crazy about that idea when I learned about it.
I live in Ohio and the number of closed factories and abandoned farms is a heartache.
I collect antiques and have learned a lot of history of production. Ohio is full of the clay and sand that made high quality glass. At one time, companies in Ohio made half of the world's supply of dinnerware. Most of the cities up and down the Ohio River, on both sides had glass, pottery and china factories. There were also places that made clothes. All gone. Towns also had brick makers, lumber yards, other specialized factories where you could actually buy useful local items.
Even when things were made in the U.S., people still bought the same exact item from somewhere else and had it shipped to the location they wanted. Even now, I see barges up and down the Ohio River all the time, literally shipping coal to Newcastle. River gravel from up around Wheeling WV sent down to a paving company in Marietta, which also has river gravel. From the same river :/
paleotn
(18,003 posts)It works well in stable conditions, but conditions are rarely stable for long.
jpak
(41,760 posts)And not nice
cloudbase
(5,526 posts)Movement away from the huge commercial aspect of the holidays might not be such a bad thing.
Aussie105
(5,478 posts)I approve!
Sometimes 'want' and 'need' are not the same. Most of the time, really.
underpants
(182,992 posts)But lets remember that people had a free life saver and were manipulated to refuse it.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Called Unplug the Christmas Machine still an excellent read - its totally changed our familys Christmas traditions.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)with no outages, so people don't freeze to death.
ananda
(28,892 posts)with the Texas deep freeze last February.
orleans
(34,094 posts)Unwind Your Mind
(2,042 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,191 posts)some time, like some have said, perhaps it's a good thing (kind of reduce the rampart commercialism) and if things were so critical to a business' operating mode/revenue, then perhaps they should have looked into other supply channels, perhaps developed in-house suppliers / manufacturing in the US, and/or other options that don't rely on so many factors in getting their merchandise into the hands of retailers in time for the holidays ... I think folks are going to give Biden a wide latitude being he's got so much to repair from the damages inflicted by rump's admin. (lack of adequate steps undertaken by the trump admin., tariffs right and left because rump had a temper fit, etc., etc., etc.).
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SWBTATTReg
(22,191 posts)handle such volumes, otherwise wouldn't the powers that be, have already done this? Sure, transport costs would have gone up (shipping via trucks to the USA if offloaded in Canada or Mexico), but when the retailers are getting 5 or 6 times what they paid for the Chinese goods (or other such countries) for resale in the USA, they have plenty of margin to cost these additional costs, I would think.
Of course w/ COVID and border restrictions, even this option may be up in the air.
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EarthFirst
(2,905 posts)Share a meal; conversation; and relish in the moment of being in good company without the corporate leash?
Marthe48
(17,090 posts)Last year it was all done remotely
PSPS
(13,628 posts)This is exhibit one of "first world problems" if any were ever needed. Geesh.
Rebl2
(13,583 posts)trumps fault-everything!
bucolic_frolic
(43,447 posts)large parts of the populace has been at home and shopping online for 18 months. Only mitigating factor I can think of is inheritance money from all the COVID fatalities. MAGA doesn't mourn much, I would think. I mean if they have no empathy for us, what do they think of their own?
Marthe48
(17,090 posts)and other sources of pre-owned items that might make gifts for Christmas. My family is okay getting vintage items as gifts. It would be hard to find small appliances or electronics in good condition, but it's a thought.
I have seen advice for the last month to shop early. My daughter bought Christmas presents to send along with a relative, first so she had gifts, second so she didn't have to rely on USPS to get them there. That was a nightmare last year and it won't be any better this year. BTW, if anyone wants to get me a present, I'll take dejoy in prison, please.
SWBTATTReg
(22,191 posts)Also another alternative is simply cash or a gift card (one w/ no expiration date) that could be used at one's pleasure (when they finally find the good(s) they want.
Marthe48
(17,090 posts)I usually get in-laws gift cards, which they seem to prefer.
I have things in the basement I might give my daughters as prank gifts. I have a new in box hand mixer in avocado green from the 70's and a n-i-b curling iron, which would bring back many funny stories about big hair
SWBTATTReg
(22,191 posts)holidays, and re-purpose old gifts for new purposes that actually find good homes! Thanks for the laugh and suggestion.
Historic NY
(37,458 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,649 posts)that doesn't require any supply chain. Pleeeeeease Santa, please. I have been very, very good this year.
Bristlecone
(10,144 posts)Just how the circle goes round and round.
Vinca
(50,323 posts)from China to hang by the fireplace? Will the Trump toilet paper joke gift be available again this year? Oh, the horror of it all.
Deminpenn
(15,294 posts)already has its xmas section set up and stocked.
Think Walmart does too.
Aussie105
(5,478 posts)Only a matter of time if not.
We have abandoned Xmas here.
It's meant to be a religious observance thing.
And we aren't religious.
Vegetarians, so no ham and turkey either.
Skip the hot food.
Just salads - weather gets hot here in Australia at Xmas.
Deminpenn
(15,294 posts)That will happen right after Halloween.
maryellen99
(3,790 posts)My husband texted me a picture of the Christmas display at Lowes in September 2019.
Deminpenn
(15,294 posts)Xmas displays have gotten earlier and earlier over time. Just pointing out that there's xmas stuff available and it's either already out or being put out.
ruet
(10,040 posts)Can we put this tired colloquialism out to pasture? ...please?