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Sabuca

(48 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:18 PM Oct 2021

GOP rallies around Manchin, Sinema

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Source: The Hill

hRepublicans are rallying around Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), the centrists who are in a fierce battle with progressives in their party.

Senate Republicans, despite having many policy differences with Manchin and Sinema, are singing their praises, knowing that they will be key to stopping or slowing President Biden’s ambitious agenda.

Both Democrats would be top Republican targets in 2024 if they decide to run for reelection, and GOP leaders are usually loath to offer praise to such lawmakers.

But in a 50-50 Senate, where Manchin and Sinema can make or break Biden’s policy goals, many Republicans hail them as saviors.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/576661-gop-rallies-around-manchin-sinema



Fox News has written very favorable articles about both as of late.
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GOP rallies around Manchin, Sinema (Original Post) Sabuca Oct 2021 OP
THIS is all we need to know. They don't have to change parties, they can help the GOP destroy us onecaliberal Oct 2021 #1
Really says everything you need to know about the two of 'em, doesn't it. Grokenstein Oct 2021 #2
I agree. n/t EndlessWire Oct 2021 #11
isn't it great to have the two of them on our side? NewHendoLib Oct 2021 #3
We're wasting our time with these two. C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #4
Can Dems kick them out of the party? Lunabell Oct 2021 #5
and give control of the Senate to McConnell SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #14
To be fair the two Senators have essentially done that. cstanleytech Oct 2021 #17
that is different than just handing the entire legislative agenda over to the repugs SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #18
I have a reich-wing acquaintance that is still praising Tulsi Gabbard. SeattleVet Oct 2021 #6
They're not only helping republicans make sure nothing gets done FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #7
Centrists?? Suprk Oct 2021 #8
Nor are they... Wuddles440 Oct 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #9
One good thing about these two is that they allow Shumer to be Leader, not McConnell. Lonestarblue Oct 2021 #12
This is so Faustian. S & M have sold their souls to the devil. ananda Oct 2021 #13
eyes roll. riversedge Oct 2021 #15
Even though they suck Angrius Oct 2021 #16
well if this was the repugs, the next step would be to threaten their families SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #19
Locking JudyM Oct 2021 #20

onecaliberal

(32,165 posts)
1. THIS is all we need to know. They don't have to change parties, they can help the GOP destroy us
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:21 PM
Oct 2021

from the inside. Do they share what dems are negotiating with repukes too?

Grokenstein

(5,693 posts)
2. Really says everything you need to know about the two of 'em, doesn't it.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:22 PM
Oct 2021

EndlessWire

(6,238 posts)
11. I agree. n/t
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:25 PM
Oct 2021

NewHendoLib

(59,912 posts)
3. isn't it great to have the two of them on our side?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:26 PM
Oct 2021

C_U_L8R

(44,812 posts)
4. We're wasting our time with these two.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:27 PM
Oct 2021

Might even be better to court vulnerable Republicans.

Either way, it's never a good idea to negotiate with hostage takers

Lunabell

(5,735 posts)
5. Can Dems kick them out of the party?
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

The DNC needs to kick them to the curb.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,133 posts)
14. and give control of the Senate to McConnell
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:00 PM
Oct 2021

not a wise move

cstanleytech

(25,955 posts)
17. To be fair the two Senators have essentially done that.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:24 PM
Oct 2021

So, that is why I can understand why people like the OP might ask such a question and why others might advocate for a Democratic challenger that would be more willing to assist on passing legislation.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,133 posts)
18. that is different than just handing the entire legislative agenda over to the repugs
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:26 PM
Oct 2021

I agree with trying to get voters to bring in better democrats.

SeattleVet

(5,447 posts)
6. I have a reich-wing acquaintance that is still praising Tulsi Gabbard.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:36 PM
Oct 2021

FoxNewsSucks

(10,328 posts)
7. They're not only helping republicans make sure nothing gets done
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:43 PM
Oct 2021

They're making sure the public isn't even aware it is republicans who do nothing. They, with plenty of help from the complicit corporate media,, are making the Democratic Party look terrible because they are keeping things from getting done.

I'm gonna get the popcorn ready for when their lickspittle defenders come along to tell us we must love them.

Suprk

(90 posts)
8. Centrists??
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:56 PM
Oct 2021

I am still amazed how the media still labels these two as 'centrists'.

Wuddles440

(1,052 posts)
10. Nor are they...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:21 PM
Oct 2021

"moderates" as they're frequently label by the MSM.

Response to Sabuca (Original post)

Lonestarblue

(9,701 posts)
12. One good thing about these two is that they allow Shumer to be Leader, not McConnell.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

But with their current stances, the best we will likely see is a largely watered down reconciliation bill, along with the infrastructure bill. I’m not even sure we’ll see voting rights passed because both have declared numerous times that they would not vote to end it so now it would be hugely embarrassing to do so.

That may be all we see before the 2022 election because neither Sinema nor Manchin seem concerned about getting anything done. I can’t remember what else is in the queue that the House has already passed. If the Senate operated as speedily as the House, these bills would have passed months ago.

ananda

(28,706 posts)
13. This is so Faustian. S & M have sold their souls to the devil.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 03:40 PM
Oct 2021

...

riversedge

(69,310 posts)
15. eyes roll.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:15 PM
Oct 2021
 

Angrius

(7 posts)
16. Even though they suck
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:20 PM
Oct 2021

Chuck Schumer is a milk toast leader at best who let's McConnell punch him in the stomach daily.

We need fighters willing to fight back against these traitors, while I have respect for Nancy Pelosi to get things done, I lack confidence in Schumer twisting arms and making deals to get things done in the senate.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,133 posts)
19. well if this was the repugs, the next step would be to threaten their families
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 04:29 PM
Oct 2021

but Dems are more civiliized. So we have to stick to just twisting arms, not breaking them. Hopefully, someday manchin and sinema will appreciate the difference, or get better Democrats to replace them.

JudyM

(28,985 posts)
20. Locking
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:42 PM
Oct 2021

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