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Zorro

(15,724 posts)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:44 PM Oct 2021

Marine officer pleads guilty to disrespecting senior officials, says his life spiraled down

Source: Washington Post

Marine officer pleads guilty to disrespecting senior officials, says his life spiraled down after posting viral videos (complete headline)

CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. — A Marine officer pleaded guilty on Thursday to several criminal charges in connection with viral videos he posted criticizing senior officials during the messy U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, saying that he knew he was being disrespectful and wanted to call out what he perceived as "incompetence."

Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, a combat veteran who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, testified that he knew he was defying orders and that his life began “spiraling” after he posted his first video in August. He said his wife left him, fellow Marine officers turned their backs on him and the Marine Corps opened an investigation into his actions. Scheller said he continued posting after receiving positive feedback from backers, including elected officials.

“Many Gold Star families, junior enlisted Marines and members of Congress reached out to support my statements,” Scheller said, referring in part to the families of service members who died in the line of duty.

Scheller pleaded guilty to charges that include disrespect toward superior commissioned officers, willfully disobeying a superior commissioned officer, and dereliction in the performance of duties. An agreement reached between Scheller and the Marine Corps holds that a military judge, Col. Glen Hines, can sentence him to no more than a letter of reprimand and a seizure of two-thirds of his pay for up to 12 months, which would cost Scheller tens of thousands of dollars.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/stuart-scheller-pleads-guility/2021/10/14/448777e0-2d11-11ec-92bd-d2ffe8570c7d_story.html



"Among the witnesses called by Scheller’s defense team were Rep. Louie Gohmert (R.-Tex.) and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)...". Fuck this guy.
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Marine officer pleads guilty to disrespecting senior officials, says his life spiraled down (Original Post) Zorro Oct 2021 OP
Based upon the plea deal mentioned Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #1
I dunno, that 2/3s of his salary is pretty big hit AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #5
Not really qazplm135 Oct 2021 #6
I don't understand. I thought "O's" were separated at the LAST honorable rank held which would artemisia1 Oct 2021 #15
Scheller only has 17 years of service, so last honorable rank is a moot point GregariousGroundhog Oct 2021 #16
I understand that in terms of pension. Pay grade wont matter if he has no retirement, however, artemisia1 Oct 2021 #20
Scheller will separate as a Lt. Colonel. GregariousGroundhog Oct 2021 #22
Ok. Thanks. /nt artemisia1 Oct 2021 #23
If he were retiring qazplm135 Oct 2021 #29
$350? A YEAR???? Less than a $1 a day? Grins Oct 2021 #27
I hear ya qazplm135 Oct 2021 #28
A Letter of reprimand means his career is over. Calista241 Oct 2021 #24
well he could have just resigned and wrote a book, but nooooo. Thomas Hurt Oct 2021 #2
That asshole is talking out of both sides of his mouth, that was no apology. He tried to justify ... marble falls Oct 2021 #3
If this is an example of current marine officers... NQAS Oct 2021 #4
Well qazplm135 Oct 2021 #7
There is a whole spectrum in the military, but the curve is definitely shifted to the right as the LT Barclay Oct 2021 #11
Whether people like to hear it or not, this is what you get when you have no draft rpannier Oct 2021 #13
And also when you have no draft EmmaLee E Oct 2021 #19
Officers aren't drafted. brush Oct 2021 #26
Oh well Lt. Col. Magat. At least you got some likes from your fellow magaturds. Comfortably_Numb Oct 2021 #8
The system Red Mountain Oct 2021 #9
Anything or any one related to trump Turbineguy Oct 2021 #10
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R.-Tex.) and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) rpannier Oct 2021 #12
Nice support this guy is getting. Paladin Oct 2021 #18
Did Scheller speak up in February 2020? sarge43 Oct 2021 #14
Or when Trump pulled US forces out of Syria and handed several U.S. bases to Russia? Mysterian Oct 2021 #25
Sorry you Trumpian dipshit maxrandb Oct 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #21

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,972 posts)
5. I dunno, that 2/3s of his salary is pretty big hit
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:56 PM
Oct 2021

If he's resigning his commission, how will he be discharged?

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
6. Not really
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:04 PM
Oct 2021

I'm a retired LTC.

With retirement and disability which he's almost assuredly eligible for, I make around 92k before taxes roughly.

So he loses that. And it increases annually. So we are talking MILLIONS of dollars, gone.

He won't be eligible for Tricare prime coverage since he won't retire. I play 350 a year for healthcare coverage. He's going to have to pay for a plan or find an employee plan.

That's in addition to the lack of an honorable discharge which will hurt him for government employment.

Financially, he's been pretty much neutered.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
15. I don't understand. I thought "O's" were separated at the LAST honorable rank held which would
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:36 PM
Oct 2021

be major for this officer. Imagine if I had held a press conference attacking my chain of command and the civilian leadership. I would have been gone by nightfall and without a single stripe left.

In any case. glad to have you here on DU! We need more retired SRO's to counteract the RW nutjobs who claim to represent all who serve(d) in uniform.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,515 posts)
16. Scheller only has 17 years of service, so last honorable rank is a moot point
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:13 PM
Oct 2021

He's 3 years shy of being eligible for retirement. Had he made it to 20 years, he have been eligible for a pension of $4731.15 a month. His highest three years of pay would would probably have been $9293.10, $9555.90, and $9555.90 per month, and he would get 50% of that. By separating now, Scheller throws that pension away.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
20. I understand that in terms of pension. Pay grade wont matter if he has no retirement, however,
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 05:11 PM
Oct 2021

in terms of consequences for serious misconduct I would think he would be considered not to have served honorably as an O-5 and been demoted to O-4, thus losing the title of Lieutenant Colonel. Find me an enlisted person, SNCO especially, who could keep all their stripes upon separation, pension or not, who did such things.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,515 posts)
22. Scheller will separate as a Lt. Colonel.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:40 PM
Oct 2021

Unlike enlisted soldiers, officers cannot be demoted by a court martial. Officers also only have a single punitive discharge (a dismissal) whereas enlisted soldiers have two (a bad conduct discharge and a dishonorable discharge). As part of Scheller's plea deal, he will resign from military service and will not be dismissed. Dismissal results in all the same penalties as being a convicted felon, so it doesn't surprise me to see a military prosecutor acquiescing to a resignation.

Grins

(7,199 posts)
27. $350? A YEAR???? Less than a $1 a day?
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 03:11 PM
Oct 2021

I pay, between Medicare and supplemental insurance, plus dental, plus Rx drug coverage - double that! Every MONTH!

I don’t begrudge the military getting that. What pisses me off is it is provided by taxpayers who have no health coverage at all.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
3. That asshole is talking out of both sides of his mouth, that was no apology. He tried to justify ...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:48 PM
Oct 2021

... what he did.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
4. If this is an example of current marine officers...
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 06:51 PM
Oct 2021

That’s not a good sign. Tremendous lack of judgment. Is that the kind of person you want leading marines into combat?

LT Barclay

(2,594 posts)
11. There is a whole spectrum in the military, but the curve is definitely shifted to the right as the
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 12:36 AM
Oct 2021

military attracts people who like an authoritarian environment. With that and the barrage of propaganda from other members spouting Fox "news" talking points, there is definitely a majority of conservatives.
So your title would more accurately read "If this is an example of current military officers..." and the reply would be yes it is, but the mistake he made was going public and embarassing those higher up the chain. He exposed them so they either had to come down on him or face WH scrutiny and possibly having to resign themselves.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
13. Whether people like to hear it or not, this is what you get when you have no draft
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:17 AM
Oct 2021

You get a military full of "heroes", people trying to get the college fund/bonus, and children/grandchildren of careerists
You don't get a good cross-section of society

EmmaLee E

(169 posts)
19. And also when you have no draft
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 04:47 PM
Oct 2021

You have no protest against war (it is, after all, the job they chose) and we can fight for 20 years without anyone saying anything more than "thank you for your service."

And the industrial complex and contractors rake the cash in.

Comfortably_Numb

(3,796 posts)
8. Oh well Lt. Col. Magat. At least you got some likes from your fellow magaturds.
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:14 PM
Oct 2021

Hope it was worth it brainiac.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
12. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R.-Tex.) and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)
Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:14 AM
Oct 2021

with witlesses like that, he's lucky the plea wasn't a firing squad

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
18. Nice support this guy is getting.
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 12:42 PM
Oct 2021

I bet he wishes that old piece-of-shit TV show, "JAG," was still on the air---he'd be depicted as a hero.

Mysterian

(4,568 posts)
25. Or when Trump pulled US forces out of Syria and handed several U.S. bases to Russia?
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 09:50 PM
Oct 2021

Abandoned our allies and left them for dead?

Strange silence from the MAGA lowlifes about that.

maxrandb

(15,298 posts)
17. Sorry you Trumpian dipshit
Sat Oct 16, 2021, 12:06 PM
Oct 2021

It doesn't work this way in the military

"Many Gold Star families, junior enlisted Marines and members of Congress reached out to support my statements,” Scheller said, referring in part to the families of service members who died in the line of duty."

And thank God it doesn't.

You're a worthless piece of amphibian shit that got a little to close the the Orange Circus Clowns crack-pipe.

You got off easy, but thank god you won't be around to spread your wingnut crap amongst the troops.

Trust me, there are thousands of Marines celebrating that they no longer run the risk of ever having to listen to your dumbass again.

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