Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:24 PM

Biden gives some clues on potential compromises to his social safety net plan

Source: CNN

By Maegan Vazquez and Kaitlan Collins,

(CNN)President Joe Biden laid out areas of potential compromise to his massive 10-year spending plan during a speech on Friday at a childcare center in Connecticut.

"I'm convinced we're going to get this done," Biden said of the ongoing negotiations during the first stop of his trip in Hartford. "We're not going to get $3.5 trillion. We'll get less than that. But we'll get it. And we'll come back and get the rest."

Earlier in the speech, which was aimed at highlighting his administration's childcare proposals in the plan, Biden also suggested free community college may be an area that gets cut.

"I don't know that I can get it done, but I also have proposed free community college, like you've done here in the state of Connecticut, to help students from lower-income families attend community college (and) four-year schools."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/politics/connecticut-trip-joe-biden/index.html

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14 replies	Author	Time	Post
Biden gives some clues on potential compromises to his social safety net plan (Original post)	Omaha Steve	Oct 2021	OP
LMAO	aocommunalpunch	Oct 2021	#1
Not Necessarily	BlueIdaho	Oct 2021	#2
This seem the best idea to me	airplaneman	Oct 2021	#5
I agree	BlueIdaho	Oct 2021	#6
The idea is that once people have something they like,	Deminpenn	Oct 2021	#9
Exactly. nt.	BlueIdaho	Oct 2021	#10
Unfortunately, the saboteurs have their knives out for their donors' hit list	Fiendish Thingy	Oct 2021	#3
Just separate the bills already!	question everything	Oct 2021	#4
Something is better than nothing but considering how much better it could have been	cstanleytech	Oct 2021	#7
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chin music	Oct 2021	#12
As someone brilliantly stated on Lawrence's show the other night...	SKKY	Oct 2021	#8
Excellent Point	BlueIdaho	Oct 2021	#11
This isn't about how we talk about it	wryter2000	Oct 2021	#14
Not meant to criticize you, Omaha Steve	wryter2000	Oct 2021	#13

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 06:47 PM

aocommunalpunch (4,088 posts)

1. LMAO

"Come back and get the rest"? Really? That ship sailed weeks ago.

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Response to aocommunalpunch (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 07:24 PM

BlueIdaho (13,074 posts)

2. Not Necessarily

Instead of looking for 3.5 Trillion over ten years, the idea is to get 1.75 Trillion over five years. If that succeeds, a repeat of the process five years from now could be an easy get.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:01 PM

airplaneman (1,132 posts)

5. This seem the best idea to me

In five years we either have a better majority where it will not be a problem to do it for another five years or the R's will be in charge and they will kill it anyhow.
-Airplane

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Response to airplaneman (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:29 PM

BlueIdaho (13,074 posts)

6. I agree

Plus people like Sinema and Manchin are totally focused on the final number rather than the programs those numbers represent.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 16, 2021, 08:01 AM

Deminpenn (14,909 posts)

9. The idea is that once people have something they like,

they don't want to give it up.

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Response to Deminpenn (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 16, 2021, 11:51 AM

BlueIdaho (13,074 posts)

10. Exactly. nt.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 08:56 PM

Fiendish Thingy (12,776 posts)

3. Unfortunately, the saboteurs have their knives out for their donors' hit list

Prescriptions, tax hikes on the rich, ending fossil fuel subsidies/blocking renewables…that’s what they want killed. If Biden was only proposing a trillion for free college, I bet it would pass without too much drama…

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 09:01 PM

question everything (45,295 posts)

4. Just separate the bills already!

The Infrastructure bill passed the Senate. It will be the crown jewel in the next midterm and presidential elections.

The bundle will never pass and will be heralded as incompetency of the Democrats.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Oct 15, 2021, 11:23 PM

cstanleytech (24,992 posts)

7. Something is better than nothing but considering how much better it could have been

I cannot help but be angered at two of our own Senators that essentially sided with the Republicans and helped sink it.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Oct 16, 2021, 04:26 AM

SKKY (11,212 posts)

8. As someone brilliantly stated on Lawrence's show the other night...

..."Stop selling the ingredients, and start selling the brownies." How we talk about this doesn't help our cause one bit.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 16, 2021, 11:53 AM

BlueIdaho (13,074 posts)

11. Excellent Point

Virtually no one knows what benefits are involved here.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 16, 2021, 12:36 PM

wryter2000 (45,253 posts)

14. This isn't about how we talk about it

It's about what CNN will report. According to them, it's a "massive 10-year spending plan." I'm sure Biden's speech was about the brownies, but look how that gets translated into "news." How many people have to time to listen to his speeches? How many people could even have found a way to listen to his speech? If they have to get their information from CNN, et al., what they're going to get is "massive 10-year spending plan" and how the negotiations are going. Negotiating with ourselves, by the way. "Democrats in disarray."

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Oct 16, 2021, 12:30 PM

wryter2000 (45,253 posts)

13. Not meant to criticize you, Omaha Steve

This is what's wrong with our media:

"...his massive 10-year spending plan." At least, they mentioned it was 10-year. It's not a spending plan, CNN, you assholes. It's a plan to make people's lives better.

"Earlier in the speech, which was aimed at highlighting the administrations's childcare proposals..." Why not cover what some of those were? Why is that all we hear except for what might get cut?

And the Carville's of the world are out there screaming, "Biden isn't selling it!" How can he sell it, if this is how it's reported?

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