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[Omaha Steve]

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[vercetti2021]

1. Screw you and the high horse you rode in on

You would be so goddamn irrelevant if we had one or two more seats and I hope the fuck next year that's the case. Seriously these two are just trying to kill the bill entirely now. Because its just demand after demand now

[Firestorm49]

17. And delay, delay, delay. Does this sound like a Republican tactic? They own him!

[speak easy]

2. drip .. drip ... drip ...

Seem like every week or so, the 'good' Senator has a new, non-negotiable demand. This is not negotiation, it's Proud Mary grade showboating.

[groundloop]

13. I see it more as delaying tactics than merely showboating.

Probably a mix of both. If he keeps moving the goal line his fellow Democrats will end up with nothing, and it certainly seems that's what he wants.

[hamsterjill]

15. And what he's getting.

I don’t expect the midterms to go well for us when nothing gets accomplished. Just my opinion.

Manchin is stalling for that very reason also in my opinion. Democrats are not doing anything about it.

[ck4829]

3. Even though West Virginia has a poverty rate noticeably higher than the rest of the nation...

So this is a very weird flex.

[dlk]

4. Manchin is clueless about parents of children with chronic illnesses and developmental disabilities

There are many more of them than he thinks. Why would he struggling parents a target?

[Vinca]

5. They should be able to meet in the middle. $60,000 apparently seems like a good living to

Manchin because of where he lives, but I bet he couldn't last 2 months on that kind of income. In my area, a modest rental would cost about a third of that without utilities. If you have a couple of kids, childcare might cost in the $10,000 range. Doesn't leave much for food, clothing, medical needs and other necessities.

[LiberalFighter]

6. The legislation was presented in April...

and now in late October he is criticizing pieces of it?

[TexasBushwhacker]

7. Why does he think they don't work?

The VAST majority of families receiving child tax credits, SNAP, housing assistance and Medicaid gave at least one working adult. This is the guy opposing raising the minimum wage from $7.25 and hour? Does he not understand the concept of "working poor" when he's from one of the poorest states in the nation?

In the words of Andy Dufresne in The Shawshank Redemption, how can he be so obtuse?!

[padah513]

8. But of course

Once you come up with a solution to a problem, he finds another problem that needs a solution. Rinse, repeat. We really have to GOTV so we can nullify this man and make his stranglehold on our party obsolete, but what do you expect from a guy who said he talks to trump regularly.

[Harker]

9. His fifteen minutes have been up for a long time.

What does he think the D after his name stands for?

[pazzyanne]

12. Manchin (and Sinema) has power right now,

proving the saying, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".

[Harker]

14. Absolutely.

Maybe Manchin is auditing Sinema's fundraising course at ASU.

[waterwatcher123]

10. Biden Needs to Channel LBJ

Biden should use LBJ's time honored hard ball approach of talking about scaling back federal programs that directly impact him (i.e., Appalachian Regional Commission). Joe Machin's wife is the chair of this commission.

[Polybius]

20. Different times

LBJ had like 67 Senators. If one said "Go scratch your ass, I'm outta here!" he could afford to lose one. We can't. Biden is also not LBJ, who was always a tough guy.

[turbinetree]

11. So it cost how much to park Almost Heaven the houseboat he lives on in DC .....about $800.00 a month

is that being paid by taxpayers through his senate salary.......and as for child tax credit's...did he get his daughters pharma corporations tax credits....just saying.....you can see what he is doing, getting the media to shift the blame to the progressive caucus....

[Firestorm49]

16. It appears that President Manchin is better at making headlines than Joe. Nt

[FoxNewsSucks]

18. I despise republicons

and anyone who acts as callously as an "Official Republicon".

[Bayard]

19. I don't like that word

"Demands." How does he explain his demands to his constituents, or is he like Sinema, and just doesn't talk to them?

[LogicFirst]

21. Manchin needs to register as a republican and Kinzinger as a Democrat.