Federal judge rejects Southwest Airlines pilots' request to block vaccine mandate

[SouthBayDem]

Source: CNBC

A federal judge in Texas denied Southwest Airlines pilots union’s request to temporarily block a vaccine mandate for employees, which is a requirement under new government rules.

Dallas-based Southwest Airlines must require staff to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 by Dec. 8 unless they receive a religious or medical exemption, according to rules for federal contractors that the Biden administration issued last month.

Southwest and other major airlines like Delta, United and American fly federal employees, U.S. mail and provide other services to the government.

The Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, which represents some 9,000 aviators, sought a temporary restraining order against the mandate. The union had argued that the mandate, as well as other Covid-related company policies, needed to be negotiated with the union.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/26/federal-judge-rejects-southwest-airlines-pilots-request-to-block-vaccine-mandate.html

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This judge is Barbara M. Lynn, a Clinton nominee to the Northern District of Texas.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. Remind me again why it's okay to infect others with a potentially fatal disease?

[Mr. Evil]

3. No Shit!

And what's with this 'religious exemption' bullshit!? What, if you're religious you're somehow not going to give the virus to multiple unsuspecting people? This fucking country just cannot do the right thing or tell adults to act like fucking adults to save our lives. Literally!

[cstanleytech]

4. "And what's with this 'religious exemption' bullshit!?" Because their probably are some faiths

that do not approve of vaccines just like their are some that do not approve of blood transfusions.
Granted such faiths are rare but they do actually exist so for those few rare ones some exceptions are usually allowed.
Is it logical? Certainly not as the science has proven over and over again that vaccines are by and largely safe and effective but then again belief in a religion is not logical either.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. The ONLY faith that doesn't accept medical care is Christian Science.

Period. End of discussion. Any "religious exemption" claim by anyone else is total and complete bullshit.

And even the Christian Scientists are complete and total idiots.

Read God's Perfect Child by Caroline Fraser. Truly eye opening.

[ShazzieB]

8. Not quite.

It's NOT just the Christian Scientists. (I wish it were, because they seem to be dying out.) From what I can tell, the religious groups that shun medical treatment mostly tend to be small, splinter sects and the occasional "non-denominational" church whose pastor has decided that members should "put their faith in God" when they get sick, rather than turning to medical science.

Check out some of these links:

https://www.doctorpedia.com/channels/can-people-refuse-medical-care-because-of-religious-beliefs/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/followers-of-christ-idaho-religious-sect-child-mortality-refusing-medical-help

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1877352,00.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/health/religion-medical-treatment/index.html

There's one thing you and I agree on, and that's that these people are idiots. They're idiots of the worst kind, especially the ones who deny medical care to their children.

[IronLionZion]

15. There is no standard on that

The employer has a lot of discretion on whether to accept it or not.

If the person is claiming fetal stem lines, then they can be reminded that tons of common medicines fall under that category including Tylenol, Ibuprofen, many allergy meds, and many vaccines they've already taken.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

2. Eventually the 5th Circuit Court will kill this.

[jpak]

5. Fuck em

Find another job

Yup

[Old Crank]

7. Religious exemption

Needs to be signed in public by their god.

[lapfog_1]

9. I, personally, do not want to fly in a plane

with a pilot that doesn't believe in science.

Halfway through the flight he or she might decide that they don't believe in the theory of gravity anymore.

[róisín_dubh]

10. My ex bro in law is a SW pilot...

And his wife is an absolute butter anti-vaxxer. Both veterans, and likely vaxxed against every disease known to man.
I haven’t seen them in ages but I imagine this has caused some, ah, stress.

[global1]

11. So Does This Mean The Recent SW Slowdown Was.....

really about the Vax Mandate?

[TheRickles]

12. Yes, I think you're right. Interesting how the MSM never pointed out that connection.

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It was a staff walkout/sickout to protest the vaccine mandate, and a sign of just how deep-seated the opposition is in some quarters.

[LiberalFighter]

14. Union employees don't get to negotiate contrary to federal laws or rules with a company.

Matters “specifically provided for” in Federal law fall outside the definition of conditions of employment and are therefore not subject to bargaining.

[PerceptionManagement]

16. So, Southwest pilots are rightwing assholes?

Did I get that right? They are objecting just to object?

[Gore1FL]

18. At least the Union is. nt

[turbinetree]

17. Thank You ......Barbara M. Lynn.... for thinking of public safety......again Thank you....