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Mayor says Obama effigy doesn’t belong in central Utah town. (Original Post) Stainless Oct 2012 OP
Please note LBN rules say you must use the title of the article you link to muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #1
"This is not something that we [should] have here," Jones said. bluestateguy Oct 2012 #2
being inarticulate during outrage happens roguevalley Oct 2012 #5
At least he spoke up. Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #23
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #28
No shit, sherlock. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #3
The pic of the hanging display looks horrendous aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #4
Welcome to Udah, Wellstone ruled Oct 2012 #6
The Secret Service needs to be called BainsBane Oct 2012 #7
The Secret Service is overworked by the Tea Terrorists. And this line from the story: freshwest Oct 2012 #29
these people are unhinged BainsBane Oct 2012 #30
And Romney is using one of their dogwhistles attacking FEMA. Not because they care about disasters. freshwest Oct 2012 #31
Easy solution BainsBane Oct 2012 #32
Problem is that isn't right. Others who aren't like that are in the same geographical area. freshwest Oct 2012 #33
I know BainsBane Oct 2012 #34
They are suffering from a mass delusion that is very painful. Unfortunately, they vote. freshwest Oct 2012 #35
These are the sorts of 'people' who will be running our government if Mitt steals the election siligut Oct 2012 #8
you know heaven05 Oct 2012 #9
Hear, Hear. iemitsu Oct 2012 #19
!!! heaven05 Oct 2012 #24
Interesting state I moved to. defacto7 Oct 2012 #10
Get out as soon as you can and be as quiet as you can siligut Oct 2012 #12
... It's something in the water!!! defacto7 Oct 2012 #13
This Racist episode occurred in Stainless Oct 2012 #15
Growing up in Wyoming, we used to have a joke gejohnston Oct 2012 #17
the most god damn crazy, secretive, religiously controlled, weirdo pit I have ever lived. AlbertCat Oct 2012 #21
True! defacto7 Oct 2012 #26
May I remind the good mayor that blacks were basically non-human to the LDS community. VPStoltz Oct 2012 #11
The mark ! defacto7 Oct 2012 #14
What a true hero this mayor is. Imagine the guts, the determination, the strength it must have taken busterbrown Oct 2012 #16
I've seen it myself deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #18
Yikes. what an experience. iemitsu Oct 2012 #20
my neighbors were complete asshole racist, misogynistic RAPEublicans (are there any other kind?) AlbertCat Oct 2012 #22
I hear you, AlbertCat. defacto7 Oct 2012 #27
NO TIME MACHINE REQUIRED ROBROX Oct 2012 #25
They wouldn't even be able to print what I would say . . . Brigid Oct 2012 #36

muriel_volestrangler

(101,360 posts)
1. Please note LBN rules say you must use the title of the article you link to
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
Oct 2012
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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
2. "This is not something that we [should] have here," Jones said.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:35 PM
Oct 2012

Gee that's quite a strongly worded condemnation there.

Is he saying that it would belong in another town?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
23. At least he spoke up.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:40 PM
Oct 2012

Probably lost 1000 friends in the process.
And most likely, won't be re-elected as a consequence.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Welcome to Udah,
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:17 PM
Oct 2012

our Kluckers wear white shirts and black slacks with silk ties. Gettem at Mr. Mac's,two for one deal. And,you thought the Southern States had a lock on this Shit. Typical Right wing brain fart. Then they wonder why their I.Q. average is so damn low in this state.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
7. The Secret Service needs to be called
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012

This is a felony. The Minneapolis Park Board called the Secret Service because someone killed a cat and stuck it to an Obama campaign sign, and left a can of tea in front of it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
29. The Secret Service is overworked by the Tea Terrorists. And this line from the story:
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:26 AM
Oct 2012
A Tribune reader who alerted the newspaper to the display said it is getting attention in the small town, with people even stopping to take photographs. The reader asked not to be identified because he has relatives in the neighborhood whom he fears could face retaliation.

Just imagine, living in a neighborhood controlled by the mafia. Speak out and we'll hurt your family. This is nasty stuff.

I saw where a house where a veteran has a lot of GOP signs in his yard and one of those white-faced Obama posters in his window. He has Christian signs, too. Does he think Jesus likes his poster?

As far as the Secret Service goes read this:

Report: Unprecedented Number Of Death Threats Against Obama -- And Secret Service Overwhelmed


The Boston Globe reports that a new internal Congressional Research Service report and government sources say there are an unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama -- and that the Secret Service is insufficiently funded and staffed to deal with them.

According to The Globe, a report issued by the Congressional Research Service shows that the Secret Service is investigating more threats against government officials than ever before, and questions whether the 144-year old agency should continue probing financial crimes, as was its original mandate.

In total, the Secret Service regularly protects 32 people and arranges security for high-profile events. But the election of Barack Obama has increased threats against the president's life by 400 percent from his predecessor, according to "In the President's Secret Service," Ronald Kessler's account of presidential security. The Secret Service has looked into a number of race-based threats since Obama took office, and a Facebook poll that asked "Should Obama be killed?" President Obama also had a Secret Service detail 18 months before the election, the earliest of any Presidential candidate.

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/new-report-find-secret-service-overwhelmed-by-increased-threats.php

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
30. these people are unhinged
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:21 AM
Oct 2012

The Secret Service will really have their hands full when the President wins reelection.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
31. And Romney is using one of their dogwhistles attacking FEMA. Not because they care about disasters.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:13 PM
Oct 2012

But the propaganda the 'patriots,' Paulites and Teahadists have been listening to for a decade say FEMA was set up to round them up into concentration camps and kill or re-educate them to 'communism.' When Romney referred to the negative attitude Americans have about FEMA, he was calling that dog.

Alex Jones knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Every week from his studio in Austin, Texas, he dives into red-faced tirades exposing the forces that threaten to enslave all human life on the planet. The conspiracy always boils down to about the same thing: eugenics operations, the militarization of the police, a cabal of wealthy corporations and the United Nations involved in a fiendish plot to control the world.

Five days a week, online and on more than 60 radio stations nationwide, “The Alex Jones Show,” along with a pair of websites he runs (Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com), serves as the tumultuous showcase for his overactive imagination — a worldview governed by logic-leaping deductions and heedless pronouncements. His website is chock full of apocalyptic headlines and ads for products like “recession-proof coins” and manuals on How to Survive Martial Law in America. On the air, he’s given to stream-of-consciousness rants.

Influenced heavily by the conspiracy-minded John Birch Society, Jones ran unsuccessfully for a Texas House seat in 2000 as a Republican but said he doesn’t follow the platform of either of the two major parties. He has described his own politics as libertarian.

Jones has accused the federal government of involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing and the 9/11 attacks, said that the Branch Davidian cultists in Texas were purposely murdered by authorities, claimed that FEMA is secretly building concentration camps for liberty-loving citizens, and issued a series of videos with hair-raising, B horror-film titles. A sampling: “911: The Road to Tyranny,” “Police State 3: Total Enslavement,” “The Masters of Terror: Exposed,” “New World Order: Blueprint of Madmen” and “The Obama Deception: The Mask Comes Off.”...

At the movement’s previous peak in the 1990s, the “black helicopter” was a symbol of its cartoonish insistence that the government would soon be coming after freedom-loving dissidents who knew the truth about the New World Order. Jones gave these fears a 21st century update in an October 2011 online broadcast. He obsessed over news that the sheriff of Montgomery County, Texas, had used a federal grant to buy an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (also known as a drone) called the ShadowHawk. The laptop-controlled, miniature helicopter comes equipped with a powerful zoom camera, infrared heat-seeking optics and crowd-stopping cartridges.

To Jones, this was not simply a police department taking advantage of the latest law enforcement technologies but a glimpse at the insidious machinery agents of the New World Order are deploying in the night skies in advance of martial law. “They’ve got large unmanned drones,” Jones warned. “They’ve got small drones. … And they’ve got million-dollar systems up there flying around with cops in control of them, surveilling you. And now they’re mounting them with ground-penetrating radar that looks right through your wall, while you’re on the toilet, having sex with your wife.”


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/alex-jones

I'm rather concerned with his idea that men want to have sex with their wives while they sit on the toilet. In fact, that image really bothers me. Want to really get scared?

Watch his The Obama Deception film on youtube and see the memes we see played out everyday in many places, even here. And Katrina, the earthquake, nuclear accident and tsunami in Japan?

All done by HAARP according to Jones as part of the world depopulation attempt, so be afraid, be very afraid. ..

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
33. Problem is that isn't right. Others who aren't like that are in the same geographical area.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:40 PM
Oct 2012
That is why government is needed to take care of these things, without the personal judgments people inflict on each other.


BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
34. I know
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:42 PM
Oct 2012

I wasn't serious. But I can't help thinking that if these people hate FEMA so much, they don't deserve help.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
35. They are suffering from a mass delusion that is very painful. Unfortunately, they vote.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:30 PM
Oct 2012

And I'm sure you didn't mean it, although it would seem 'just' at times. Fortunately, better people than myself are in charge, for the time being. Obama would not deny any of them anything. That's why we need people of his caliber leading this nation. Too much is at stake.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
8. These are the sorts of 'people' who will be running our government if Mitt steals the election
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:23 PM
Oct 2012

And what the Mayor means is that you can think it, but just don't show it.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. you know
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:34 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:38 PM - Edit history (1)

amerikkkan whites lynching black people was one of the most shameful, hateful and vicious times in the history of this small d democracy. I have a large poster on my wall of amerikan shame and evilness with four scenes of different lynchings with the white crowds picnicking and just having a grand old time while another human being was castrated, burned and hung. Living in the south in the fifties as a child I remember the anger and sadness that my parents expressed at incidents like this. . .and usually it was some trumped up charge of a black man being too uppity or having had looked the wrong way at a white woman or having been charged with rape that in 99.9 percent of the cases was just a lie to be able to kill a black. All this to keep black people, men especially "in their place." To have this type of activity emulated now in 2012 with our POTUS being that castrated, burned and lynched black man is one of the saddest indictments against an ignorant and very stupid amerikan culture and segment of it's populace. I am enraged. This other individual driving around with Obama effigy hung in the back of his truck shows how really, really sick this country is. A sickness driven by a dog whistle campaign led by the Republican nominee for POTUS, Rush Limpdick, Shaun the dipshit Hannity, Wolf Blitzer, Joe the idiot Scarboro and glenn the redneck beck, Sarah the bimbo palin and anne the retard coulter, with a little trump thrown in for good measure. I am enraged. Most people cannot really understand the mistrust these activities breed in some minority people. I just hope the segment of the white amerikkan populace that believe this activity is going to cause fear in black men, women and allies don't make a fatal mistake of underestimating my resolve in fighting every fucking inch of the way if this type of activity rears it's stupid ignorant head around me. I hate people like this with every sinew of my being. GOD! I'm angry at this but yet know this. Not in spite of but because Barack H Obama is POTUS this country will never go back to the way it was as depicted in these lynchings and no black man or woman worth their salt will NEVER ACCEPT SECOND-CLASS citizenship ever again. over.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
19. Hear, Hear.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:11 PM
Oct 2012

I'm with you heaven05.
The whole campaign of the republicans has been a shameful embarrassment and the numbers of Americans who are willing to accept their pitch is an even worse embarrassment.
Yet, I sense that this is the last stand of that ideology. The racism and bigotry on display can't be swept under the rug any longer. The examples identify Republicans from the top of the presidential ticket to their most base supporters, as dyed in the wool racists.
These are people evil and will be recognized as such.
Concerning blacks and second-class citizenship, I already see a positive difference in the black communities self-identity and confidence. President Obama and his family are wonderful role models for all Americans and they serve to highlight just how mediocre, selfish, and entitled the losers, who have been running the show, have been.
We are not going back to the "kinder, gentler" times of the 50s because to do so the uber-class would have to be taxed 80 to 90% of their income. Since they are unwilling to pay to recreate their fantasy past/future, they are attempting to take over by storm, but mother nature isn't behind them this time and her winds have been weak. That is why the major pundits have had to out themselves as shills for the corporate elites. They are frantically blowing into the sails and whipping those tied to the oars to get themselves, and their master's chosen candidate, out of the doldrums. This time they don't have enough power to catch the wind (crossing fingers) and they will be seen floundering near the starting gate when the race is over.
After Obama's second term, even those blinded by race hatred will come to recognize who their real allies are.
Times are changing.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. Interesting state I moved to.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
Oct 2012

not.

So what the hell town in Utah does it belong?

I have lived and worked all over the planet, lived in 3 different countries besides the US and in several states. This is the most god damn crazy, secretive, religiously controlled, weirdo pit I have ever lived. I will probably leave on the first bus after the election.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
12. Get out as soon as you can and be as quiet as you can
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:46 PM
Oct 2012

I have also worked and lived in many places, Utah needs a sign at the border, "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here".

Stainless

(718 posts)
15. This Racist episode occurred in
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:53 AM
Oct 2012

a little town called Orangeville in Carbon County. This is near where Murray Energy killed nine coal miners a few years back. There are some really ignorant morons in that area who aren't smart enough to know that Bob Murray is one of Romney's biggest supporters. This is just another example of stupid assholes voting against their own self-interests. It's really pathetic, but multiply this by tens of thousands and that is how rascist bigots can help Romney get elected if the rest of us don't get off our butts and vote.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
17. Growing up in Wyoming, we used to have a joke
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:58 AM
Oct 2012

Why do the seagulls in Utah fly upsidedown? Nothing there worth shitting on.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
21. the most god damn crazy, secretive, religiously controlled, weirdo pit I have ever lived.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:10 PM
Oct 2012

And it's not in the South!

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
11. May I remind the good mayor that blacks were basically non-human to the LDS community.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:47 PM
Oct 2012

Old habits die hard.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
16. What a true hero this mayor is. Imagine the guts, the determination, the strength it must have taken
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:17 AM
Oct 2012

for Mayor Jones him to speak out as he did. Boy did he let it rip, didn't he? I imagine the few
people who might have been responsible for this act were truly shamed by the mayor's comments.
Theres nothing more to say about this sleepy little town in Utah which now must be left alone
so its residents can get back to the things they do so well; talking about black crime and the
homosexual plague in America.



deadbrokediva

(48 posts)
18. I've seen it myself
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:21 AM
Oct 2012

when I made the mistake of leaving Portland, Oregon to move to a hick suburb called Woodridge, IL in September 2008. Unfortunately for me, I did not even visit the place first - it was during the recession, I was laid off and I took the first job I was offered - in THAT place. Moved my entire life there on September 19th, only to find that my neighbors were complete asshole racist, misogynistic RAPEublicans (are there any other kind?) who held abortion protests outside the Planned Parenthood next door to my complex ALL DAY EVERY DAY, complete with little kids holding signs of bloody fetuses and being told to call adult women murderers, and whined nonstop about how much they hated the fact that Abraham Lincoln is on their license plates and as one woman said of Lincoln's freeing the slaves, 'Well, ah don't like that guy because ah think, you know, those people should maybe, um . . . get back to work? If ya know what I mean." Yeah, I knew what she meant when the neighborhood decided to hold a pre-Halloween Obama "bashing" by hanging effigies from the trees in their front yards. Whoever came up with the most insulting one would win the prize, probably a lifetime subscription to 'KKK Monthly' or something. Well, the winner? The one with the sash that read "Mr. Smoked Irish 2008".

Needless to say, I left on October 8th, 2008. I lasted three whole weeks in that vile place before I came to my senses and moved back to Portland, where I rejoiced on election night that Obama had beaten these racists and I'm positive he'll do it again next week.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. my neighbors were complete asshole racist, misogynistic RAPEublicans (are there any other kind?)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

And (again) it's not in the South!

 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
25. NO TIME MACHINE REQUIRED
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:44 PM
Oct 2012

to quickly visit the past. There are areas in this great country that are stuck in the past. I think all GOP members are people who are STUCK IN THE PAST.

This people are the opposite of progressive people who want to go into th future for a better life. These people suck the air out of the room with their vile thoughts and actions.

I am so glad my parents were the opposite of these people and promoted my progressive thoughts and actions. The sad story is that my children are not so progressive and are the product of their environment which is RED.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
36. They wouldn't even be able to print what I would say . . .
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:50 PM
Oct 2012

If I were the Mayor of a small town where something like this was found.

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