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Jose Garcia

(3,497 posts)
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:24 AM Nov 2021

Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown declares victory over socialist challenger

Source: CNN

(CNN)Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown declared victory Tuesday night in his write-in campaign for a fifth term. Brown lost the Democratic primary earlier this year to Democratic Socialist India Walton.

As of 12:30 a.m. ET, about 59% of votes had been cast for write-in candidates, and 41% had gone for Walton. Brown's campaign likely accounts for the strong showing for write-in candidates on the ballot, but Erie County won't begin to tabulate the write-in votes until November 17.

That makes it impossible to say definitively who voters wrote in, despite Brown's victory declaration.

After effectively sitting out the nominating contest and refusing to engage with or debate Walton, Brown launched a well-funded general election campaign asking voters -- this time including Independents and Republicans -- to "Write Down Byron Brown."

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/03/politics/buffalo-mayor-byron-brown/index.html

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Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown declares victory over socialist challenger (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2021 OP
Republicans supported Brown... PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #1
"Meddles" ?? Ha! NurseJackie Nov 2021 #3
So? Why can't citizens of Buffalo support their incumbent DEMOCRATIC Mayor? Obviously Byron Brown... George II Nov 2021 #9
Better title - Republicans legitimately voted preferring the incumbent Democratic mayor in the GE karynnj Nov 2021 #15
Meddles? Did Colin Powell "meddle" in Obama's race? Did Cindy McCain "meddle" in Biden's onenote Nov 2021 #18
Apparently so did Democrats and independents. N/T lapucelle Nov 2021 #21
Oh good! This makes me very happy! NurseJackie Nov 2021 #2
...... justhanginon Nov 2021 #4
Yes, many of us do as well. comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #5
Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #7
If he won, its a good example of "working together" oldsoftie Nov 2021 #6
The tag is not what people want to hear. Historic NY Nov 2021 #8
I am on the Justice Dem email feed LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #10
Not from Buffalo, but I have difficulty with this one. Demguy81 Nov 2021 #11
(cough) Joe Lieberman (cough) n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #12
Indeed. Demguy81 Nov 2021 #13
What does Byron Brown's re-election have to do with Joe Lieberman? George II Nov 2021 #17
I don't understand this JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #26
People would have had a problem if there was a danger of Jose Garcia Nov 2021 #14
Socialism doesn't play in Peoria, Buffalo or America for that matter. brush Nov 2021 #19
Socialist concepts like medicare and social security Deminpenn Nov 2021 #22
Like I said, there are aspects to it that are favorable, but in... brush Nov 2021 #23
The word "socialist" has a negative connotation Deminpenn Nov 2021 #24
Being a boomer myself, I've always been progressive, but I do... brush Nov 2021 #25
Because NY is a closed primary state, most voters did not participate in June. lapucelle Nov 2021 #20
The thing is India Walton wasn't a Democrat until shortly before the primary, Byron Brown has been.. George II Nov 2021 #27
Good on Mayor Byron Brown.. he can't Cha Nov 2021 #16

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. "Meddles" ?? Ha!
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 08:36 AM
Nov 2021

Oh, Huffington Post... and

Fact of the matter is that Democrats should welcome and encourage more support from everyone... no matter what their affiliation. I see that there are still people who are angry that "The Lincoln Project" is supporting Democrats and attacking Republicans. Weird.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. So? Why can't citizens of Buffalo support their incumbent DEMOCRATIC Mayor? Obviously Byron Brown...
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:06 PM
Nov 2021

....is a very popular mayor to all the people in the city. I can't find Buffalo specifically, but Erie County is 47% Democratic, 25% republicanm, and 24% Independent or unaffiliated.

One doesn't get 60% of the votes in an election without support from Democrats, Independents, and republicans.

Inasmuch as he's been elected now five times, clearly he's got broad based support.

I can't see why this is a negative.

karynnj

(60,928 posts)
15. Better title - Republicans legitimately voted preferring the incumbent Democratic mayor in the GE
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 02:43 PM
Nov 2021

It could be considered meddling by some to vote in the other party's primary - changing party to do so. In Vermont, no one is registered by party. I can opt to take a Democratic, progressive or a Republican primary ballot (only one) In Burlington, the first two are by far the bigger parties.

onenote

(46,125 posts)
18. Meddles? Did Colin Powell "meddle" in Obama's race? Did Cindy McCain "meddle" in Biden's
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 04:52 PM
Nov 2021

Republicans crossed over to vote for the incumbent Democratic mayor. While I'm sure that sort of think causes Nina Turner to have fainting spells, for the rest of us, getting Democrats elected with whatever support we can is a good thing.

Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Historic NY

(39,971 posts)
8. The tag is not what people want to hear.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:10 AM
Nov 2021

if they can't run as socialists, don't run as democrats. That message seems clear.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,133 posts)
10. I am on the Justice Dem email feed
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:24 PM
Nov 2021

I got emails from the Justice Dems, AOC and Cori Bush urging me to contribute to this candidate because she was not a corporate or regular Democrats. I was amused by these pleas and I am glad that Byron Brown won.

Winning as a write in is an amazing feat and Byron Brown should be applauded for his success

Demguy81

(93 posts)
11. Not from Buffalo, but I have difficulty with this one.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:26 PM
Nov 2021

If the roles were reversed, and it was India Walton (or any other left-wing Democrat) running a write-in campaign, people on this site, and the entire Democratic Party would be raving about her being a sore loser and attempting to divide the party.

Walton won the Democratic Party primary. If this is the case, I can handle it, but I will never take "Never run as an independent or third-party candidate" seriously again. If it's good for three, it has to be good for me too.

Demguy81

(93 posts)
13. Indeed.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:34 PM
Nov 2021

He lost, but because it was about him, he still wanted to continue. Funny, it was likely his vote that doomed the Medicare buy-in provision in the 2009 - 2010 Healthcare debate. Funny how history works.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. What does Byron Brown's re-election have to do with Joe Lieberman?
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 04:48 PM
Nov 2021

PS - you should have that cough checked, flu season is on it's way.

JustAnotherGen

(38,017 posts)
26. I don't understand this
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 04:00 PM
Nov 2021

Mayor Brown is a die hard life long Democratic Party member.

He was at the million man march -

Lieberman was not.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
19. Socialism doesn't play in Peoria, Buffalo or America for that matter.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 04:52 PM
Nov 2021

It's too toxic an issue for most areas and only plays in very deep blue districts like AOC's. It's not smart to run as a socialist in most of America even though there are some favorable aspects to it.

It's usually a loser in elections. We've seen that over and over and over. A lot of money and time was wasted when a write-in candidate defeats you.

Deminpenn

(17,454 posts)
22. Socialist concepts like medicare and social security
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 05:06 AM
Nov 2021

certainly "play well" in America. The military operates on socialist principles, too, as far as welfare and organization are concerned and many Americans worship it.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
23. Like I said, there are aspects to it that are favorable, but in...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:52 AM
Nov 2021

elections it works only rarely, very rarely, in deep blue districts. Recent history has shown that and what happened in Buffalo is just another example.

Who doesn't like medicare/medicaid and Social Security (installed by Dem presidents BTW), not socialist presidents)? Everyone does who has them. But to many Americans...the Greatest generation, Boomers, and much of the GenXers...they were raised fearing socialism, USSR communist collectives, the Iron Curtain, fall out shelters, nuclear war, Red China, and the residual fear still remains with many of those voters. Not all of them, but many who will never vote for a socialist candidate. And then there are all the Latinx voters who have roots in failed socialist countries who are against socialism.

It's just a bad decision. Run as a Democrat and you have a better chance. Most candidates don't enjoy a solid, deep blue district like AOC's.

Deminpenn

(17,454 posts)
24. The word "socialist" has a negative connotation
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 10:58 AM
Nov 2021

but socialistic programs are popular.

Being a "Boomer", communism and socialism were never problematic to me. To my parents and grandparents, they were, but those generations are mostly gone now.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
25. Being a boomer myself, I've always been progressive, but I do...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 11:03 AM
Nov 2021

know that being taught in grade to school to hide under our desks in case of Khrushchev sending nukes to rain down upon us still has residual effects on many of our cohorts. Don't fool yourself. Socialism is still toxic to many voters. Buffalo is just the latest example.

The candidate in Buffalo would've been better off running as a Democrat. She was poorly advised to run as a socialist. That was a total misread of constituency. A fucking write-in candidate beat her.

That's unheard of and just shows what a misread of the voters was made.

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
20. Because NY is a closed primary state, most voters did not participate in June.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:35 PM
Nov 2021

It looks like the majority of the whole electorate preferred the incumbent mayor. Brown didn't run as a third party candidate. (There was one else on the ballot.) He ran as a write in candidate. His name wasn't on the ballot.

Fewer than 21,000 people voted in the primary, and Walton won by about 1500 votes Many more people turned out to vote in the general.

The race had not been called for Brown: "Write-Ins" is the winner at this point.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
27. The thing is India Walton wasn't a Democrat until shortly before the primary, Byron Brown has been..
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 06:39 PM
Nov 2021

...a Democrat for decades.

Byron Brown didn't run as an independent or third-party candidate, he was/is the incumbent Democratic mayor.

In fact, he wasn't even on the ballot.

Cha

(318,697 posts)
16. Good on Mayor Byron Brown.. he can't
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 04:44 PM
Nov 2021

be smeared with Joe Liebermann's name. Oh they can try.

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