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EarlG

(21,977 posts)
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:48 PM Nov 2021

House passes $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill, sends it to Biden

Source: CNBC

The House passed a more than $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill on Friday, sending it to President Joe Biden’s desk in a critical step toward enacting sprawling Democratic economic plans.

The Senate approved the revamp of transportation, utilities and broadband in August. The legislation’s passage is perhaps the unified Democratic government’s most concrete achievement since it approved a $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package in the spring.

The measure passed in a 228-206 vote. Thirteen Republicans supported it, while six Democrats voted against it. Biden could sign the bill within days.

Washington has tried and failed for years to pass a major bill to upgrade critical transportation and utility infrastructure, which has come under more pressure from extreme weather. The White House has also contended passage of the bill can help to get goods moving as supply-chain obstacles contribute to higher prices for American consumers.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/05/house-passes-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-sends-it-to-biden.html



Changed the source. For some reason MSNBC had it as a $555 billion bill but CNBC and CNN have got it as $1+ trilion
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House passes $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill, sends it to Biden (Original Post) EarlG Nov 2021 OP
Yea LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #1
finally good news RussBLib Nov 2021 #2
+1000 llmart Nov 2021 #30
Either amount is eye-watering and a win! Nt VarryOn Nov 2021 #3
I know this is will annoy some people here, madaboutharry Nov 2021 #4
Agree... VarryOn Nov 2021 #6
I agree with you completely, my dear madaboutharry! Thank you! ♥ CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2021 #7
I think The Squad just made itself look smaller & less influential tonight.Jayapal, otoh, looks good Hekate Nov 2021 #14
You've got that right. Sad but true. lamp_shade Nov 2021 #21
Yeah, I agree obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #28
I agree with you. llmart Nov 2021 #31
The bill passed, so I'm not really bothered. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #40
It's a protest vote knowing the bill would pass safely IronLionZion Nov 2021 #48
Just think, had they passed it last week some of the election results would have been different question everything Nov 2021 #5
R.I.P BBB. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #8
Politics is the art of the possible SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #17
In a democracy, murielm99 Nov 2021 #41
Negotiating with fascists is a bad idea Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #56
Dems have sown up the BIF bill and all the things Americans have been asking for years. George II Nov 2021 #35
"All the things Americans have been asking for" Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #39
Linking the two bills was a mistake from the beginning. honest.abe Nov 2021 #52
This will show we can do great things when vision and investment come together. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2021 #9
Here are the six: NBachers Nov 2021 #10
I presume that they will work to make sure that not one dollar of OnDoutside Nov 2021 #22
I had thought Bowman would vote for it obamanut2012 Nov 2021 #29
They broke from their Speaker Pelosi, they broke from their caucus Chair Jayapal, they broke from... George II Nov 2021 #37
Finally manicdem Nov 2021 #11
K&R! Finally!!! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #12
Kickety, kick. ❤ littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #13
Great news! brer cat Nov 2021 #15
I just wish that it could have passed a week ago Polybius Nov 2021 #16
Great news! orangecrush Nov 2021 #18
..."largest single investment in infrastructure in U.S. history...." littlemissmartypants Nov 2021 #19
Showing that Joe Biden is the one who knows the "Art of The Deal" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #20
K&R. Great news sorely needed for infrastructure. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #23
Go Dems! And congrats to Pelosi for GETTING IT DONE! ananda Nov 2021 #24
Good news gademocrat7 Nov 2021 #25
Sweet! When I went to bed last night, it sounded like the bill had stalled again. What great news LaMouffette Nov 2021 #26
Fantastic! honest.abe Nov 2021 #27
The vote detail: George II Nov 2021 #32
I think Kinzinger and Gonzalez aren't running for reelection Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #34
Kick and recommend. Great news! bronxiteforever Nov 2021 #33
Great news! Bayard Nov 2021 #36
Clawed back 14 months of the military spendthrifting, it's a great beginning. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2021 #38
Good, now we are that much closer to getting all hands on deck for the most important bill yaesu Nov 2021 #42
+1000 bluewater Nov 2021 #43
Let me guess: Aristus Nov 2021 #44
The funny thing is that Nicole Malliotakis is getting hammered for it here on Staten Island Polybius Nov 2021 #46
Everybody got something. bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #53
What TFG couldn't do in 4 years Biden did in about 4 months. nt SunSeeker Nov 2021 #45
The "Squad" didn't betray anybody. That's 100% backwards. TiberiusB Nov 2021 #47
"The "Squad" as many here derisively call them..." LudwigPastorius Nov 2021 #49
I know the nickname has been around for some time TiberiusB Nov 2021 #57
I'm with you on this WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #50
In hindsight linking the two bills was a mistake. honest.abe Nov 2021 #54
Thanks or posting...indeed a BFD! Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #51
So the only people upset about this are most Republicans and a few progressives. honest.abe Nov 2021 #55

RussBLib

(9,044 posts)
2. finally good news
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:55 PM
Nov 2021

Now Dems need to LOUDLY take credit for this one.

And get the other one across the finish line

llmart

(15,557 posts)
30. +1000
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 07:54 AM
Nov 2021

The media won't do it for us, so we have to CROW about this bill and get on the airwaves as much as possible, always using the words WIN and BIDEN together!!!

madaboutharry

(40,236 posts)
4. I know this is will annoy some people here,
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:55 PM
Nov 2021

but I think the democrats who voted against the bill were wrong. And I’m getting weary of The Squad. They are not helping.

Hekate

(90,883 posts)
14. I think The Squad just made itself look smaller & less influential tonight.Jayapal, otoh, looks good
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:34 AM
Nov 2021

Pramila Jayapal is head of the Progressive Caucus, which she points out is 96 members. She held them together tonight — all except the renegade Squad.

llmart

(15,557 posts)
31. I agree with you.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 07:55 AM
Nov 2021

The media is always looking for a "Dems in disarray" theme and The Squad gave it to them.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
40. The bill passed, so I'm not really bothered.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 11:47 AM
Nov 2021

If their constituents keep voting them in, I can't say a whole lot.

IronLionZion

(45,575 posts)
48. It's a protest vote knowing the bill would pass safely
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:12 PM
Nov 2021

as the squad has stated all along, they won't be the ones who stop the bill from passing.

question everything

(47,547 posts)
5. Just think, had they passed it last week some of the election results would have been different
Fri Nov 5, 2021, 11:58 PM
Nov 2021

It would have showed, then, that the Democrats can govern.

At least, it puts us on a better starting point for the midterm which really will start in less then two months.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
17. Politics is the art of the possible
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:53 AM
Nov 2021

The BBB will pass, even though it will get dinged a bit in the Senate, and the American public will get to watch the Republicans sit on their asses for another crucial piece of legislation.

murielm99

(30,778 posts)
41. In a democracy,
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 11:54 AM
Nov 2021

politics is the art of compromise. That is the way I learned it. Otto von Bismarck was the one who called it the art of the possible. Do we want HIS example to follow in a democracy? I don't think so.

Gingrich nixed the idea of fraternization across the aisle. We need to get back to that and we will. Because politics is the art of compromise.

The republicans have been getting away with very undemocratic things for a while. We will bring things back to where they should be: the art of compromise.

Evita is one of my favorite musicals. The Art of the Possible is sung in that play. Here are the lyrics:

One has no rules/is not precise/One rarely acts/The same way twice/One spurns no device/Practicing the art of the possible.

One always picks/The easy fight/One praises fools/One smothers light/One shifts from left to right/It's part of the art of the possible.

One always claims/Mistakes were planned/When risk is slight/One takes one's stand/With much sleight of hand/Politics - The art of the possible.

That is how it is done in a Peron-style right wing dictatorship. That is not who we are. That is not how Nancy or Joe do things. They do some horse trading and calling in of favors, but they practice diplomacy and compromise because we are a democracy.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,686 posts)
56. Negotiating with fascists is a bad idea
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 10:22 AM
Nov 2021

Negotiating compromises with supporters of the Big Lie and the insurrection is a very bad idea.

It would mean treating Gaetz, Jordan, Gomert, MTG, Boebert, Brooks, Hawley and Cruz as serious, sane people worthy of respect.

Beyond those crazies, NONE of the republicans have shown a willingness to even allow debate on important bills- how do you negotiate with that?

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Dems have sown up the BIF bill and all the things Americans have been asking for years.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:47 AM
Nov 2021

What's this "coal miner vote" stuff?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,686 posts)
39. "All the things Americans have been asking for"
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 11:14 AM
Nov 2021

Like paid leave and Medicare expansion and universal pre k, substantive action on climate change and lower prescription drug prices…? “All” those things that aren’t in the BIF?

What the BIF provides is $550 billion in new money to correct 75 years of deferred maintenance on the nation’s physical infrastructure- a good thing, but for a child in poverty, not nearly enough.

The BIF provides funding for projects heavily connected to the fossil fuel industry, hence the coal miners are sure to vote for Dems in the midterms, amirite?

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
52. Linking the two bills was a mistake from the beginning.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 02:14 AM
Nov 2021

It didn’t work and the result is now a bunch of angry folks like yourself.

NBachers

(17,152 posts)
10. Here are the six:
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:10 AM
Nov 2021

Here are the six House Democrats who broke from their party to vote against the bill:

Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota
Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/politics/infrastructure-bill-house-democrats-voted-no-republicans-voted-yes/index.html

OnDoutside

(19,982 posts)
22. I presume that they will work to make sure that not one dollar of
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:31 AM
Nov 2021

that money will be spent in their district ? Is their vote position any better than the conservadems ? Infantile.

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. They broke from their Speaker Pelosi, they broke from their caucus Chair Jayapal, they broke from...
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:54 AM
Nov 2021

....their fellow progressives.

The Congressional Progressive Caucus is made up of 95 Representatives and one Senator. ALL the other members of the CPC voted for the bill (including the Senator weeks ago), those six did not. Instead they sided WITH 200 House republicans.

littlemissmartypants

(22,839 posts)
19. ..."largest single investment in infrastructure in U.S. history...."
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:04 AM
Nov 2021
BREAKING: Congress passes largest single investment in infrastructure in U.S. history.


House votes *228*-206, with 13 Republicans joining Dems.

Bill now goes to the White House.








KY_EnviroGuy

(14,498 posts)
23. K&R. Great news sorely needed for infrastructure.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:36 AM
Nov 2021

Good point regarding weakened infrastructure due to worsening weather and better broadband to stay competitive in the world.

......to Speaker Pelosi and President Biden.

LaMouffette

(2,042 posts)
26. Sweet! When I went to bed last night, it sounded like the bill had stalled again. What great news
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 06:45 AM
Nov 2021

to wake up to!

Now, Democratic leadership, it's all about messaging, messaging, messaging! This needs to be trumpeted as loudly and as often as the Repubes have been spreading the Critical Race Theory lie, the Stop the Steal lie, and the Democrats Want to Take Your Guns lie, and the Economy Is in Bad Shape lie.

We need TV commercials and YouTube ads, dammit! Spread the positive news! Spread it! Brand the Democrats, once again, as the party of "Yes, We Can!" Brand the Republicans as the party of fear mongers.

Thank you, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris, and all the Dems who supported the bill, along with the few Repubes who did, too.

GO, DEMS!

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. The vote detail:
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 09:06 AM
Nov 2021

republicans who voted with the majority of Democrats:

Van Drew
Katko
Bacon
Young
Upton
Kinzinger
Smith (N.J.)
Fitzpatrick
Reed
Gonzalez
Garbarino
Malliotakis
McKinley

Democrats who voted with the majority of republicans:

Bush
Omar
Bowman
Tlaib
Ocasio-Cortez
Pressley

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,320 posts)
34. I think Kinzinger and Gonzalez aren't running for reelection
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 10:40 AM
Nov 2021

It's easier for them to vote yes for that reason.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
42. Good, now we are that much closer to getting all hands on deck for the most important bill
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 12:54 PM
Nov 2021

voters rights! Lets get real, we are about to see our first trillionaire in the US, the electric car rocketman, so a trillion dollars isn't going to make me too excited but hey, I'm used to settling for crumbs.

Aristus

(66,481 posts)
44. Let me guess:
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 01:25 PM
Nov 2021

The thirteen Republicans are at least smart enough to realize that this will benefit their constituents, and they can run for re-election on the result of those benefits.

Meanwhile, the six Democrats are running away from Joe Biden's agenda so they can claim 'electoral independence' from the President in their next campaign.

Cowards...

Polybius

(15,512 posts)
46. The funny thing is that Nicole Malliotakis is getting hammered for it here on Staten Island
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 01:38 PM
Nov 2021

Her Instagram is off the charts in negative comments, calling her a traitor, sellout, and RINO.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CV6UvXvLssV/

bucolic_frolic

(43,375 posts)
53. Everybody got something.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 09:50 AM
Nov 2021

To me it's a sign the parties are beginning to cooperate again, which they have done historically. Everyone got something. Progressives got their further left agenda, 13 Republicans added to their center-right creds and Democrats got to say this is bipartisan and Republicans can point to it's not an entirely united Democratic Party, in fact it wouldn't have passed without them.

TiberiusB

(490 posts)
47. The "Squad" didn't betray anybody. That's 100% backwards.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:01 PM
Nov 2021

Pelosi betrayed a commitment to pass both bills together, undoubtedly under pressure from the administration to pass something to counter bad poll numbers.

https://www.newsweek.com/bowing-progressives-pelosi-says-infrastructure-will-pass-once-dems-agree-spending-bill-1634939

Did that happen? Is the BBB bill set to pass? Obviously, no. Say goodbye to BBB. It's going to get gutted even more, and whatever shell of a bill passes, it won't have any of the winning elements that people were demanding. The "Squad" as many here derisively call them, were standing on their principles and holding to the commitment they made to Biden's agenda. The BIF was their leverage, which just got thrown away, so don't expect BBB to suddenly win over the Dem holdouts.

Do people actually think that these progressives voted the way they did because they are "infantile" or spiteful? They were letting their constituents see that they weren't simply going to capitulate to the corporate wing of the party and pass a corporate friendly giveaway masquerading as a bold infrastructure bill. The BIF is not a 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill. Only 550 million of it is new infrastructure spending, and much of that is funded by diverting funds from other programs, like unspent Covid relief. Despite that, the bill isn't even paid for, which Manchin, shockingly, isn't bothered by.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/568416-the-infrastructure-bill-will-increase-the-debt-stop-telling-americans

That money will be spread out over multiple projects for roads, bridges, mass transit, broadband, water projects and the electric grid. That's only a tiny fraction of what's needed, and counting on future bills to make up the difference seems...unrealistic...to say the least.

Worse, it's just a massive corporate giveaway of public assets.

https://prospect.org/politics/bipartisan-senate-infrastructure-plan-privatization-asset-recycling/

How about billions in Oil industry giveaways?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-06/biden-s-agenda-is-tainted-by-oil-interests-say-climate-advocates

Does anyone really believe that over a dozen republicans, including Mitch McConnell, would back any bill that wasn't in their interest? They gathered enough votes to counter any progressive push back, but let enough of their members vote "no" to avoid any backlash from conservative voters.

None of the progressives "sided" with the Republicans. When Schumer voted "no" on the voting rights bill, was he siding with Republicans? They put up a last ditch effort to protect the BBB bill and get it passed. Obviously. It seems that actively using whatever leverage you can muster to protect and advance your President's proclaimed agenda, one originally targeted at the citizenry of the U.S. and not the donor class, is deeply offensive to some. Good grief, desperation for a "win" does not make for rational discourse, or policy.

TiberiusB

(490 posts)
57. I know the nickname has been around for some time
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 01:46 PM
Nov 2021

I'm not referring to the nickname per se, more the tone used when the group is brought up in these discussions, along with a press corp that often pulls it out as a way to point the finger at those troublesome progressives.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
54. In hindsight linking the two bills was a mistake.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 09:57 AM
Nov 2021

It didnt work and only resulted in pissing off a bunch of progressives and dividing the party. Both bills should have lived or died on their own merit. The result would have been much better and we might still have a Dem Gov in VA.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
55. So the only people upset about this are most Republicans and a few progressives.
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 10:04 AM
Nov 2021

That confirms its good legislation.

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