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brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 12:40 AM Nov 2021

Substitute shortages, staff burnout lead to Seattle-area school cancellations

Source: Seattle Times

The unexpected announcements by the Seattle, Bellevue and Kent school districts that there would be no classes Friday due to staffing shortages have caused anger and frustration among parents who are scrambling to figure out child care.

On Tuesday, officials in Seattle Public Schools and the Bellevue School District announced class cancellations for Friday because of substitute and staffing shortages. The Kent School District followed suit on Wednesday. Students and staff had no school on Thursday, which was Veterans Day, a federal holiday.

Douglas Glazer, who has three children in Seattle schools, said even though the district will tack on a day at the end of the school year, it won’t replace what students would have learned on Friday.

“No learning happens the last week of school and making the school year last one extra day doesn’t mean much,” Glazer said. “The short notice is incredibly frustrating. How did you [the school district] not see this coming?”


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Substitute shortages, staff burnout lead to Seattle-area school cancellations (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2021 OP
hugs and thank yous to all the people that have to work with...people..all day in these times cadoman Nov 2021 #1
Agreed Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #7
School is and never should be a substitute for child care and the lack of true child care for cstanleytech Nov 2021 #2
Everyone is tired, angry, and pissed off. Initech Nov 2021 #3
What we need in this country really is for the 1% to start giving a shit about the other 99% before cstanleytech Nov 2021 #4
I'm in agreement with you Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #10
Then perhaps we should consider that 1789 solution? cstanleytech Nov 2021 #13
Perhaps start with the 6 January convicted IzzaNuDay Nov 2021 #21
Yes I totally agree there! Initech Nov 2021 #18
That would be a place to start Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #9
Subs at my school get $90 a day. People can make more working at Dunkin' and have steady work GPV Nov 2021 #5
I think we are watching the beginning of the end of public education Buckeyeblue Nov 2021 #6
We have been watching the breakdown of public education for decades. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #8
I remember when I first graduated college and was on the job hunt BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #11
I feel your pain CRK7376 Nov 2021 #15
Well those kids are now in their 50s BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #17
I am loving every minute of this extended Veterans Day holiday CRK7376 Nov 2021 #12
Really the parents were suprised??? The Jungle 1 Nov 2021 #14
It's all about the pay Farmer-Rick Nov 2021 #16
Same thing is happening across Oklahoma HighFired49 Nov 2021 #19
How much more damage can TFG and his cronies do? bluestarone Nov 2021 #20
Seattle public schools details Slammer Nov 2021 #22

cadoman

(792 posts)
1. hugs and thank yous to all the people that have to work with...people..all day in these times
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 01:07 AM
Nov 2021

I can't imagine it. Rules shifting every day. All the kids stressed. All the parents stressed. Half of them pissed at you no matter what you do.

Things are better since Biden, but we're still so far away from normal.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. Agreed
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:46 AM
Nov 2021

Folks who have jobs where they have to go in such as teachers, medical, restaurants, retail, public safety, delivery and alike are all to be commended. They are the ones keeping the gears of our society moving.

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
2. School is and never should be a substitute for child care and the lack of true child care for
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 01:23 AM
Nov 2021

parents shows how many politicians in this country (probably a good 99.9% of the Republican ones) do not honestly care about the safety and welfare of children.

Initech

(100,099 posts)
3. Everyone is tired, angry, and pissed off.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 02:24 AM
Nov 2021

I think we need like a mandatory week of paid vacation for everyone in the country. Taking away some oil subsidies would pay for it!

Nobody said coming out of a global pandemic was going to be easy!

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
4. What we need in this country really is for the 1% to start giving a shit about the other 99% before
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 03:20 AM
Nov 2021

things get out of hand.
Of course if the 1% want to gamble and continue as we are now then perhaps we could try the solution upon the 1% that was used before in France back in 1789?

IzzaNuDay

(362 posts)
21. Perhaps start with the 6 January convicted
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 02:51 PM
Nov 2021

I speculate if January 6 happened in the 19th century, the punishments would have been swift and severe.

GPV

(72,381 posts)
5. Subs at my school get $90 a day. People can make more working at Dunkin' and have steady work
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 05:12 AM
Nov 2021

Last edited Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:00 AM - Edit history (2)

to boot. I subbed before taking a full time paraprofessional position, and it can be very difficult and stressful. I don’t want to be a full time teacher. It’s a tough gig and the pay is not commensurate, so I’m an Ed tech who keeps getting pulled to sub because our list is so short. We have folks in their 70s coming in, retired teachers stepping up because no one else will.

This is an emergency. Maybe it’s time to call in the Nat’l Guard? Or maybe parents can be tapped to take days off from work to sub? The father in the article is understandably upset. Is he willing to pitch in?

This is an article about just a few rural schools in my part of Maine, and how we’re lacking people to fill all kinds of positions, not just subs: https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/maine-news/schools-struggle-to-fill-positions-burnout-an-issue/

Buckeyeblue

(5,500 posts)
6. I think we are watching the beginning of the end of public education
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:18 AM
Nov 2021

In our district people with a few hours of college credits are being hired and temporarily certified to teach. My kids biology teacher has a business degree.

Trump parents are encouraging their kids to be rude to teachers and administrators.

In this market teachers can go get jobs making more money without the headache. Who can blame them.

Lonestarblue

(10,053 posts)
8. We have been watching the breakdown of public education for decades.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:46 AM
Nov 2021

Or rather the Republican attempt to destroy education. White supremacists fought integration and then charter schools came along to allow them to re-segregate with a few minority students allowed as a cover. The push for public funding of religious schools has been another Republican goal, along with censoring what is taught to glorify white people and ignore the history and contributions of minorities.

And now Repubkican-led attacks, including threats of violence and death, on school boards and teachers make jobs in education even more difficult. Many experienced teachers have retired or quit because class sizes have grown and schools have been expected to take on the role of child care and social counselors. Add in low pay and frequent active shooter drills, along with real shooters who kill teachers and students, and you have a formula for failure. The Republican response has been more guns, few pay raises, and more for-profit charters sucking public resources into their bank accounts.

I could not encourage any young person to become a teacher today. It has become a frustrating, dangerous, ill paid job as politicians increasingly insert their backward beliefs into public education. Now we have plans for book burning in Virginia and censorship lists of books put together by right-wing Texas politicians who want children to know nothing about the real history of the nation.

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
11. I remember when I first graduated college and was on the job hunt
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:22 AM
Nov 2021

in the early '80s, I signed up to sub here in Philly. At the time, the pay for the first "x" number of calls/days (forgot the number), was $22/day, which was about minimum wage at the time ($3.35/hr), for 6.5 hours. After that it went up to I think $50/day. Because of my degree, I was in high demand in the secondary schools for science subject matter, but because schools in certain parts of the city suffered from teacher shortages and high absenteeism, I was of course assigned to schools in the-then area of the city that had the most absenteeism and highest poverty rates. Eventually I ended up in a high school as a long term sub that spring and then was called back in the fall to do long term subbing in a different high school. By winter, I accepted a position at what became my federal job and had to leave the school system (although this happened during a time when there was a natural break for the winter holidays and a designated switch for the students to a different class that January).

It was certainly a worthwhile opportunity, and challenging given that we have a chronically under-funded school system here (where a trial about that very thing filed by multiple PA school systems, is supposed to start today - https://www.pennlive.com/news/2021/11/pa-school-districts-lawsuit-over-funding-process-they-call-a-system-of-haves-and-have-nots-heads-to-trial.html). During my long-term sub experience before I left, I had a roster 125 kids in 5 classes (mix of grades 9 - 12), but unevenly divided so one class might have 40 and another 15. And because of the dire economic circumstances for many of the kids, there were some who came to class who hadn't eaten or who were actually working in the evenings/night to help their families, so would show up to class half asleep. I was grateful they even made that effort to come in and accommodated them for some extra attention as needed. I even had a few who were just a year or so younger than me (repeating a grade), and that truly gave me some perspective.`I did have a bunch eventually cut other classes to show up at mine so i considered that an honor (although obviously that was just wrong ).

CRK7376

(2,203 posts)
15. I feel your pain
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:43 AM
Nov 2021

I teach in a Title One school. Our kids have major problems at home, poverty, gang life, being kids of color, pregnancies on and on and on. And this year the stars must have lined up with me in mind....I'm having one of my better years with the kids...they are engaged, ask great questions are funny and not a one of them is an Honors level kid. They are just fun to work with....now of course I will probably have hellish classes during the spring semester....but that's a couple of months off....

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
17. Well those kids are now in their 50s
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:16 AM
Nov 2021

and at the time, we did form a bit of a comraderie because there wasn't much of an age difference. The neighborhood area of coverage was literally 1/3 black, 1/3rd white, and 1/3rd Hispanic but segregated by streets (and I was told by them who lived where). Believe it or not, the kids got along (at least within the school setting) with much teasing going on between those from different neighborhoods.

Of course the bigger issue was a lack of actual resources in the schools - books, supplies, etc. It's become almost standard for teachers to just bring their own stuff in (including to share with the kids).

The "digital divide", that has been talked about over 30 years, came to a head last year with the pandemic when schools went "virtual" and they discovered that probably 60% of the public school kids here had no laptop and/or internet access at home. So the district had to then go out and buy what ended up being 40,000 chromebooks for the kids needing them and then have to come up with getting wifi access to them since most had none (other than maybe those families on pre-paid cell phones with limited data access).

I know back at the last school where I was subbing, the school was due a shipment and setup of Apple IIes before school began but come to find out, they were still in the school basement waiting for the room to be secured with a caged door with padlock and the caged windows (the machines were setup in the old typing room since the desks had power outlets next to them originally used for the old electric typewriters). When all of that was done before the winter break and the setup commenced, the excitement was truly there with the kids.

CRK7376

(2,203 posts)
12. I am loving every minute of this extended Veterans Day holiday
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:22 AM
Nov 2021

from my school system in NC! Our Superintendent did the same thing about a week and half ago announcing that ee have today off and are not having to make it up at the end of the year. Burnout is raging across our schools in every level. I am in a high school with 10-15 faculty vacancies. All staff members give up 30 minutes of their 90 minute planning periods to help cover other teachers class 2-3 times a week. We don't have enough teachers and substitutes for our kids. It goes deeper than that in other areas....We don't have enough bus drivers. What used to be 20-30 minutes to get all kids off campus by bus is now taking over an hour just about daily. Our kids dismiss at 3:50 and I seldom get clear of the bus lot about 5pm each day.....and we have two big bus lots taking kids home. Our buses are running 3-4 routes each afternoon trying to get the kids home....So yeah there is definitely burnout in my school....then Vax deniers, shouting matches at the school board meetings, and the lunacy that we, including me as a History teacher, are indoctrinating our kids with CRT.....It's chaos in the trenches...Our system had a school shooting death on Sept 1st , student on student. 4-5 days later as we were dismissing classes and had kids loading buses we had multiple gunshots fired towards our school due to gang violence, we went into lockdown. Guns have popped up in elementary and middle schools in our District and another one of our high schools had a shooting/gun violence on campus a week or two ago.....So yeah Public Education is under fire and we are burning out fast. 18 months from now I will retire from the classroom after having taught in public education for 21 years. That comes after retiring from the Army with 21 years of Active Duty worldwide including Afghanistan. So yeah, I think 42 years of Public Service is enough for me.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
14. Really the parents were suprised???
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:36 AM
Nov 2021

All across the nation these karens are harassing and belittling teachers. They refuse to use masks or get vaccinated. They question the content of the education and scream at school board meetings.
Now they are surprised because there are staffing shortages. Teaching does not pay all that well. Why would teachers stay? How did you the parents not see this coming? Remember America "at will employment" is a two way street!
My wife is a nurse and she is retiring. There are many reasons but one is that some staff refuse to get vaccinated.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
16. It's all about the pay
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:14 AM
Nov 2021

There's no shortage in cops, politicians, doctors before the pandemic, lawyers, ad executives, CEOs and judges.

The reason is their higher pay. Much higher than substitute teachers. Around here in rural TN, substitute teachers earn less than minimum. They get $50 a day. For an 8 hour day at minimum it would be $58.

Simple problem, simple solution..... Pay them more.

bluestarone

(17,025 posts)
20. How much more damage can TFG and his cronies do?
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 01:24 PM
Nov 2021

Seems like everyday these mother fuckers want to do something to DESTROY our country. (that's their plan) Anymore i don't give a shit how their stopped! They caused ALL this from the beginning of mask mandates, NOW cry because the teachers won't fucking babysit their kids. Hate what this fucking CULT has done to us.

Slammer

(714 posts)
22. Seattle public schools details
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 03:22 PM
Nov 2021

Sure they have shortages.

To be a substitute teacher in Washington State, you have to have a bachelor degree and complete a teacher training program from an accredited school (plus renew that accreditation every two years).

To be an Emergency Substitute Teacher, you have to have a bachelor degree, ace an interview with the school district, then pay a $45.25 application fee per school system you are interested in working for.

So if you live in the Seattle area which has a lot of suburbs with independent school districts, you'd be looking at paying application fees to potentially 20+ school districts or applying only to school districts which have the best reputations. And the Seattle public school system has far from the best reputation.

Even if we weren't going through COVID, I'd figure that Seattle has a problem getting enough subs on a daily basis.

On the other hand, being a sub there pays $26-30 per hour. That seems substantial even if they tried to cheap out and not pay the sub during lunch and the teacher's conference period.

That's almost enough to make me want to move there and have my wife and kids be subs. (My wife is a retired teacher who'd like to get back into the classroom as a sub. One kid has a teaching degree but isn't teaching at the moment.)

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