Stephen K. Bannon files motion to request all documents in court case be made public

[cadoman]

Source: Washington Post

Stephen K. Bannon, the former Trump White House adviser, has filed an opposition to the U.S. district court’s standard protective order for discovery, which prohibits either side from releasing documents or evidence publicly.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stephen-k-bannons-lawyers-file-opposition-to-keeping-documents-from-being-released/2021/11/25/29889174-4e3e-11ec-b73b-a00d6e559a6e_story.html

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Seattle Times really has a better article on this, but gave the national paper the nod:

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/bannons-lawyers-file-opposition-to-keeping-documents-from-being-released/

Sorry little red Stephen, we'll know all about your little insurrection soon!

[True Dough]

1. If I'm not mistaken, the thread title conflicts with the information posted in the OP

Public versus kept confidential.

[stopdiggin]

35. as I read it, the 'standard' order prohibits release

by either side. Bannon is opposing this standard order.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. I don't think it is Bannon's place to make this call

The courts, and the government, will decide. I take this to be an attempt to appear transparent about all the stuff the insurrection crowd wants to keep hidden.

[former9thward]

10. Why keep the documents secret?

What is the government hiding? Let the documents be seen by the public.

[WhiteTara]

15. Investigations that coincide with Bannon's perfidy

would be a real reason to stop public info until more arrests are made?

[former9thward]

18. Whatever has happened has happened.

The info should be made public. If Bannon was trying to keep the documents secret everyone would be screaming for them to be public. The government is still keeping documents from the Kennedy assassination secret. Are they still investigating until arrests are made?

[lastlib]

24. Wouldn't want to tip off the other little fish/big fish that might get caught in the net.......

Let's keep it under wraps until the time comes.

[former9thward]

27. As someone who does defense work that is not how it works.

People know if they are being investigated. Its not secret. Lawyers talk to one another on both sides. Everyone knows who is being questioned whether witnesses or suspects. People talk. No force on earth can stop that. This is just an excuse to keep things secret that should be in the public eye.

[Mr.Bill]

31. So are you saying

judicial gag orders are not obeyed?

[wnylib]

37. Why do you believe that all

government information should be made public?

The public release of information in this case could jeopardize informants before they are called on to testify in this case or future ones. Publicly released information could (and would in this case) be used to distort information, politicize the trial into a public circus of disinformation, and try the case in the media before the court trial.

Police and DAs do not routinely release investigation details to the general public prior to a trial. Why should they do it in this case? The goal is to preserve objectivity for the trial.

[Slammer]

33. a matter of law

If the rest of his co-conspirators freely know exactly what the government has, they'll know what items to work to bury even deeper.

At least with things the way they are, Bannon's lawyers would have to break laws and ethics rules in order to share that information with co-conspirators who are at risk of being targeted later.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. That's why he is suing for a court to make the call. . . . nt

[Midnight Writer]

3. Bannon wants to use discovery to find and release dirt on his "enemies".

[TheRickles]

8. At the cost of having all the dirt on him made public? Doesn't make sense.

[cstanleytech]

9. Bannon does not care what the public knows about him what he does care

about is finding out everything that they might know and finding out how they know it.
In this case the goal might be to uncover the names of all confidential sources of information the government has even if its sources that the government has no intention of introducing evidence it found due to that source.
In other words it sounds more like he is trying to use the government to root out people rather than help bolster his defense.

[former9thward]

11. The defense will see all of this anyway.

Why is the government hiding it?

[cstanleytech]

16. No, he is only entitled to evidence that the government intends to us against him and

that is all he is entitled to if I understand it correctly.
The names of sources the government does not intend to use as evidence against him when they present their case is not something he is entitled to.
So, are they really hiding anything from him that he is entitled to? No, because they are not allowed to.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Because of the Fundamental Principle of Justice

The defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law where they can mount a defense.

If prosecutors published all evidentiary documents after showing defence and before trial, then they would be trying the defendant in the media and polluting their own jury pool, etc.

Ask Richard Jewell about being damaged by false accusations. Oh, he's dead.

What if Prosecutor George and Agent Mike accused you of bank fraud and then showed video of you going in and out of 9 banks in a single day. Before you could mount a defense, a mob has ransacked your yard and cut down your peach tree. When you are able to get out of the house and give some interview, it turns out you are a technician for currency counting machinery.

The government is hiding it to protect the defendant, even if the defendant doesn't want the protection.

Even if both the defendant and the government want to release the info, I think it still would have to pass through a judge. I am not a lawyer.

[former9thward]

21. Yes, it passes thru the court.

No, the government is not trying to protect anyone. Jewell was not damaged by documents. In fact, just the opposite. He was damaged by accusations from the government. Documents would have shown and did show his innocence.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Jewell was damaged by false accusations. Same point. Defendants should be protected. . . nt

[GemDigger]

28. Probably because it involves people that we don't know about yet.

And those people that are involved don't know about it yet either.

[wnylib]

38. They are not hiding info from the defense.

They are keeping both sides from making the info available to the general public.

As someone who says in your profile that you are a constitutional law specialist, can you be more specific about why trial information should be released to the general public BEFORE the trial? Bannon has a legal right to a trial, to attorney(s), and to know the charges against him. Releasing investigative information to the general public prior to a trial would jeopardize the selection of an unbiased jury.

So far, you are not offering legal opinions from the specialized expertise that you list in your profile. You are just asking a question that claims that the government is hiding something. What do you think they are hiding and what reasons would you ascribe to the government? Do you think the government is engaging in some kind of conspiracy? What would that cpnspiracy be?

Show us your expertise, please.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Yes, if they succeed there may be mob violence against ordinary bureaucrats and citizens. nt

[monkeyman1]

40. the only defense he has now is when pig-pen going to take a shower ?

[HighFired49]

12. Intimidation

Releasing all of the info. will give him time to try to intimidate or bribe witnesses.

[cstanleytech]

26. He will already know what witnesses they intend to call as is his right.

No, I suspect this is more along the lines of a fishing expedition to try and uncover all sources the government might have even ones it has no intention of using in its case.
Then that is when the whole intimidation and bribing comes into play as they would know everyone they would need to do it to.

[Aristus]

23. Have you looked at the guy?

By outward appearance alone, he has proven he doesn't care what the public thinks.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Yes that's it. Get publication allowed, then sue for discovery of all committee documents and keep

suing everybody for discovery.

He's hoping (expecting? is he that stupid?) to get some document they can selectively quote and distort to hell to whip more people into more outraged frenzies.

[marble falls]

4. Bannon has no stategy past delay and derail.

[PSPS]

7. Yes, this is his self-described "flood the zone with shit" M.O.

[kozar]

5. Maybe still too much bird in me,

But wouldn’t this conflict with the exec privilege


portion of the scam?


Koz

[wnylib]

39. I would think so.

If executive privilege is why he should not testify before Congress, then why try to make info that he claims is privileged available to the general public?

Contradicts himself.

[turbinetree]

6. Why.....he and the other POS's were plotting to over throw a duly elected government

fuck the contempt of congress charges just file these charges right along with the contempt charges....maybe he and his attorneys can being paid by the RNC can really look at this law which pretty much covers what he was doing.....just the word "assists" and "aid and comfort"....makes this POS guilty...

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

[Ford_Prefect]

19. Keeping documents and evidence out of public view is SOP. It prevents jury pool contamination.

It also prevents "magic" evidence from appearing later to contradict the case, i.e. false witness who says the perp was somewhere else.

It limits press speculation and rumor mongering and protects witnesses and clients alike.

Bannon believes the DOJ is a farce and run to the benefit of whoever is in power. He advocates Chaos as the way to overcome government of any kind since in his view any and all government is corrupt by its very nature. He also is one of the violence stirrers among the Jan. 6 & Big Lie crowd who steered TLG into the mess we have now. TLG was headed there but Bannon amplified his madness x 10. He is one who has advocated direct action in response to any attempt to arrest Bannon, the committee to overthrow (re-install), or indeed TLG himself.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

25. Another stunt for attention.

Guess there are donors out there to milk.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

42. and delay.

The only strategy TFG and his acolytes have is "delay-delay-delay." Delay until the GQP flips the House and immediately shuts down the Jan 6 committee. Delay until Jan 2025 when the Republican president can issue blanket pardons.

Manchin loves the filibuster and hates democracy.

[gab13by13]

29. Bannon was indicted for ignoring a subpoena,

what documents can he be talking about? We aren't talking about his role in the insurrection.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Exactly. Bannon wants to muddy the waters, delay, and disrupt. . . . . nt

[Roy Rolling]

30. Delay

Document bureaucracy will delay whatever legal proceedings he faces. Simply delay and an attempt to confuse, to politicize the court finding him guilty in the end.

They can decide this issue while he’s on trial and laying out his legal case in the legal courtroom in front of a jury, not some bullshit case he manufactures in the court of public opinion.

[Mr.Bill]

32. This, and when the judge refuses to do it

he will accuse them of having no reason to subpoena him in the first place and accuse them of running a witch hunt or fishing expedition. Fodder for the public arena. You will see his name in the news constantly until his trial is over, if he ever has one. That's how he likes to operate.

[monkeyman1]

36. yepper , look at R. STONE already throwing names out there to distract from himself !

[SouthernDem4ever]

41. Bannon is ust another asshole

there are so many of them