Supreme Court to take up Mississippi challenge to Roe v. Wade

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: NBC News

The Supreme Court on Wednesday will take up the most important showdown over abortion rights in at least three decades, a direct challenge out of Mississippi to Roe v. Wade's landmark holding that the Constitution provides a right of access to abortion.

It's the case opponents of abortion have long sought and advocates of abortion rights have dreaded, coming before a strongly conservative lineup of justices. Three were appointed by then-President Donald Trump, who said he would choose nominees willing to overturn Roe.

"If Roe is reversed, almost half the states in America would strictly limit abortion and perhaps ban it altogether," said Nancy Northup, the president and chief executive of the Center for Reproductive Rights, which supports abortion rights.

The court has yet to rule in a separate case on a Texas law known as S.B. 8 that bans abortion after about the sixth week of pregnancy. The justices must decide whether two lawsuits challenging the unique structure of that law, which delegates enforcement to private lawsuits, can proceed.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-to-take-up-mississippi-challenge-to-roe-v-wade/ar-AARgAKh

[NurseJackie]

1. I wonder what outcome Susan Sarandon is hoping for...

... oh, that's right... never mind... SHE DOESN'T FUCKING CARE!!

[JohnSJ]

7. My thoughts exactly. Not only her either, the same applies to those who encouraged others not to

vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016

[LongtimeAZDem]

27. Never Forget

[rurallib]

2. Gee, what a surprise.

Merry Christmas to America's women.


for the humor impaired

[Bayard]

3. Well......

Its finally here. Let freedumb ring. I don't think they'll overturn it completely, but I'm betting they'll take the Texas example of severely limiting it.

[peppertree]

4. +1

It'll be back to the back alley.

Unless, of course, said girl or woman belongs to the 1% (which makes it that much sweeter for them).

[yankee87]

5. Say goodbye to Roe

So thankful the Orange idiot put 3 justices on the court, I fear for my children and grand children with these right wing nut jobs. Say goodbye to Roe, say hello to angry white males carrying AKs in the street to help the cops. Hope I am wrong.

[Comfortably_Numb]

6. I sure hope Susan Collins has prepared her "concern" pearls to clutch as she defends her

Supreme Court choices. Beer Boof and the handmaiden are no doubt salivating. Boof can destroy the lives of many women whom he didn’t actually molest growing up.

[JohnSJ]

8. It was much more than collins. It was those self-identified progressives who encouraged

people not to vote for Hillary in the general election on 2016

The Nina Turners, Brianna Joy Gray, Cornell West, David Sirota, etc

It didn’t take much either. In those critical swing states Hillary lost by less than 1%, and in those states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote

I would be shocked if Roe survives this SC

[iluvtennis]

9. +++ agree. n/t

[PortTack]

10. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[DallasNE]

11. It's All Falling Into Place

They will not outright overturn Roe with the Mississippi. They will simply overturn the provision to allow abortions in the first trimester, thus upholding the Mississippi 15 week restriction.

They will next go on to the Texas law where they will strike down the unusual provision providing for a bounty to private citizens provision but leave in place the 5 week provision. Without an enforcement mechanism Texas will then model their law after the Mississippi law but with the 6 week ban.

I have been predicting this for months and nothing has happended to throw cold water on this prediction.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. It will be like being convicted of speeding where the limits are not posted

[Tomconroy]

16. I've seen educated mavens who says the court will adopt a 15

week rule. We'll see.

[DallasNE]

19. I Doubt The Court Will Adopt Any Rule

They will strike down the trimester rules but not replace it with anything. That will leave in place the Mississippi ban that starts the ban at 15 weeks. It will also further open the door to the Texas 6 week ban. The upheaval will be rapid.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Decided by 3 Justices wrongly seated: The Stolen One, The Drunken One, and The Rushed One

Don't ever forget it.

[moniss]

13. Once again

the media does the crappiest job in the world of explaining Roe. The decision is based on the finding of a right to privacy about reproduction matters. It has long been a stated goal of the evangelical creeps to continue to try to negate privacy issues surrounding birth control/family planning once they eviscerate Roe. What is being attacked by these zealots/GQP is not just the specific act of abortion but a right to privacy. Prior to Griswold and Roe the various states were very much peeking in your bedroom window and into your doctor's office.

What has been allowed for way too long is the constant acceptance of the BS framing of the issue. Supposedly if you are against the zealots you are "Pro-Choice". That is actually a weasel phrase that centrists came up with once the push-back against Roe kicked into gear. The zealots labeled people "Pro-Abortion" and that made weak-in-the knees people run to what they thought was an "acceptable/defensible" label and the media has hammered it into boilerplate. What should have been the discussion is whether or not someone is "Pro-Privacy" or "Anti-Privacy". These zealots nor anybody else ever had any right to be digging into a woman's reproductive care/family planning. For the love of God why is it so f'ng hard for people in this country to do critical thinking? Yes that is rhetorical and I sadly do know the answers.

You cannot be "Pro-Choice" about a basic right. It is not a matter of "some can have it if they choose". You have the right of privacy about these things according to the court. Period. Argue it that way. Enough with the weasel phrasing. Once and for all America. Privacy means privacy. It means you don''t get to pry and dig about what women do in these matters. Because.......it's private!!! When somebody says we need information about how many abortions are performed and the details your response to that person should be.........."None of your business!!!!! It's private!!!!!!!". The SC said the government could have limited interest that varied by trimester. But non-government people have no right to poke into these matters. Private means what it says.
It's long past time that we uphold the foundation of Roe which is the individual right to privacy.

[aggiesal]

17. I've been saying this for years ...

Row v Wade was not about abortion, it is about the Right To Privacy, in this case Medical Privacy.
Abortion was the vehicle used to make the argument about the Right To Privacy.
That's why the court had no other choice but to rule on the side of Privacy.

This current court doesn't care about Privacy or Abortion and will twist their logic until it looks like a bowl of spaghetti to match their narrative and make sure that we lose our right to Privacy.

If there is a betting line in Vega$, on this ruling, you know where I'd put my $$$'s.

[moniss]

20. Right

you are!! These folks have hated all of the decisions under the 14th Amendment. Citizenship, due process, equal protection, right to privacy etc. They hate it all and want to go back to when interracial marriage was illegal and even inter-faith marriage was hamstrung by local officials who would refuse marriage licenses etc. A little known fact is that the great man of comics, Stan Lee, and his wife were of two different faiths and were given tremendous problems in the '50's when they tried to adopt. Most people today have no idea how rigid and intrusive those times were in the '40's through the '60's. I remember very well these small-minded bigots/busybodies in towns when I grew up.

[Lonestarblue]

15. The Guardian has an interesting article today about possible impacts of overturning Roe.

One point the article made was how state laws have changed since Roe became law. They have become far worse for women, and most red states have trigger laws that go into effect as soon as Roe is overturned to immediately criminalize any action related to an abortion.

“The nation’s preeminent association for defense attorneys has also published a report ahead of the oral arguments that lays out a future in which the US could undertake “rampant criminalization” and “mass incarceration on an unprecedented scale” in the name of the unborn.

“States are laying the groundwork now, and have been laying the groundwork for criminal penalties that are completely different,” than the pre-Roe era, said Lindsay A Lewis, a criminal defense attorney in New York who co-authored a report on abortion for the National Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys (NACDL), the first such report in the organization’s history.

“They are so much more advanced, and so much harsher than what existed before Roe was enacted.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/29/us-abortion-supreme-court-roe-v-wade

[CTyankee]

18. A lot of smart women will move to pro choice states to live and work.

I think CT will benefit as will most of New England. That will have a strong economic effect for the good of pro-choice states and to the detriment of anti-choice states.

It will be an economic disaster for anti choice states.

[Lonestarblue]

21. Younger women may be able to move, but I think about the poor women in my state.

It costs money to move, and many poor women have low-paying jobs that mean they cannot feed another mouth. They cannot afford to take time off from work to travel to another state. Nor can many of them afford birth control to prevent pregnancy or support a special needs child. They are the ones who will seek illegal and dangerous abortions because they will feel they have no other options. But we all know that the religious extremists don’t care how many women die or suffer from pregnancy. All they care about is exalting a bunch of cells to personhood in their determination to take away all rights from women, who are forever to be chattel for their patriarchal views.

[CTyankee]

22. I know what you are saying but people with limited means DO leave. It takes planning and help

from others, I know. And I don't have a simple answer for you on this. I think about all those people in the Dust Bowl during the Depression trying to put together enough money to get them out to California.

[Lonestarblue]

23. Good point--and I will contribute what I can to help women in need who want to move.

But it saddens me to think of all the children who will be brought into the world—unwanted and possibly the cause of their mothers’ deaths when cancer strikes but abortions are not available.

[CTyankee]

26. I am old enough to remember the days before Roe v. Wade. I never had an unwanted pregnancy due

to sheer luck. But I was nearly militant about abortion rights. Having two daughters it was a no brainer. I marched against the Vietnam War for my son for the same reason basically: I was saving their lives from harm.

[electric_blue68]

24. Some Day Women Will Be Considered Equal Citizens...

...but today is NOT that day.





So much more fear, sorrow, injury, and death to return.
Our poor younger relatives, friends, and women in general.
😔

[CrispyQ]

25. Take away a woman's control of her reproductive cycle, & you take away her control of her life.

Restrict abortion today. Restrict birth control tomorrow. How much longer before they go after our voting rights, too? There's already been talk on the far right about revoking the 19th.