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Justice Coney Barrett questions if adoption laws could eliminate the 'burden' of parenthood for abor

Source: Business Insider

Justice Coney Barrett questions if adoption laws could eliminate the 'burden' of parenthood for abortion seekers

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett raised questions about the impact of safe haven laws during Supreme Court arguments about a Mississippi abortion law; the outcome of which could overturn Roe V. Wade.

The case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization — which focuses on a 2018 Mississippi law — threatens abortion rights established during the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling.

The Mississippi law bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, despite the Roe ruling which bars states from banning abortions prior to the 24-week mark — near the viability stage of pregnancy when a fetus is commonly able to sustain itself outside of the uterus.

"I have a question about safe haven laws. You can terminate parental rights by relinquishing a child after giving birth. The cases emphasized the burden of parenting. But women don't have to parent if they don't want to! Why don't safe haven laws take care of that?" asked Barrett, who has seven kids, two of whom are adopted.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/amy-coney-barrett-asks-safe-haven-laws-solutions-unwanted-motherhood-2021-12

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Justice Coney Barrett questions if adoption laws could eliminate the 'burden' of parenthood for abor (Original post)	Polybius	Dec 2021	OP
One might think that, a woman with 7 children, would understand something more	elleng	Dec 2021	#1
She's rich and has nannies.	SunSeeker	Dec 2021	#4
+++	quaint	Dec 2021	#35
With thousands of children here in the US she adopted from Haiti	Historic NY	Dec 2021	#39
That's because it's harder to adopt from secular adoption services	haele	Dec 2021	#68
Putin unloaded a lot of FAS and other unhealthy kids on us.	Captain Zero	Dec 2021	#74
Romania's "orphans" had a lot of psychological issues with abandonment and inability to attach, too	Hekate	Dec 2021	#86
She's from a wealthy family.	Texin	Dec 2021	#43
And who pays the bill when a woman's pregnancy goes deadly wrong?	Farmer-Rick	Dec 2021	#57
That would be the hospital district and county taxpayers. You and I.	Texin	Dec 2021	#67
Yup	Farmer-Rick	Dec 2021	#80
She's tone deaf!	IzzaNuDay	Dec 2021	#2
dumbshit authoritarian asshole. she has such little love she thinks it's okay that	certainot	Dec 2021	#3
She's an asshole for even suggesting that a rape victim be FORCED to birth a rape baby.	Texin	Dec 2021	#44
she is an idiot	TomDaisy	Dec 2021	#5
And this is a god damn S.C. JUDGE - give me a damn break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!	monkeyman1	Dec 2021	#6
Like the burden - yes, burden - of carrying a fetus for 10 months is nothing.	Solly Mack	Dec 2021	#7
Remember, she clerked for Scalia. So her mind is already made up, so she is just looking for ways	LT Barclay	Dec 2021	#8
Must still live in the 1950s.	Corgigal	Dec 2021	#9
The Stepford Justice.	H2O Man	Dec 2021	#10
The one who thinks it's just a matter of spit on a finger to tame the odd, unruly tress.	jaxexpat	Dec 2021	#23
👍	Joinfortmill	Dec 2021	#27
Well spotted	Hekate	Dec 2021	#87
irrelevant! postulates remedial legislation not in evidence, thus clearly not	bringthePaine	Dec 2021	#11
Its all about raping a woman all over again	pfitz59	Dec 2021	#12
How many Catholics are on the SCOTUS?	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#13
Lots, and 2 Jewish members.	elleng	Dec 2021	#15
Is the Federalist Society mainly Catholic?	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#17
Dunno, haven't studied demographics of Federalist society.	elleng	Dec 2021	#18
Leonard Leo, head of the Federaist Society since 1989	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#19
'a very clever strategy' along with repug party.	elleng	Dec 2021	#20
Hey Bigman	bdamomma	Dec 2021	#76
The GQP is very methodical and plan for the long run.	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#81
I had a friend who's Catholic. She and I had a debate about a phrase she said was in the bible.	jaxexpat	Dec 2021	#24
Depends on the Catholic. Martin Sheen is pro choice and vocal about it.	shrike3	Dec 2021	#54
Yup, they are the minority.	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#55
Not exactly.	shrike3	Dec 2021	#58
Thanks, I love graphs and charts.	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#59
They're with a pocket of conservatives, Catholic and otherwise.	shrike3	Dec 2021	#61
Bindboggling hypocrisy.	BigmanPigman	Dec 2021	#64
I learned about evolution in Catholic school.	shrike3	Dec 2021	#65
I'll take nine Sonia Sotomayors thank you.	BradAllison	Dec 2021	#71
RBG	bdamomma	Dec 2021	#77
just because she has enuf kids to make up a water polo team	orleans	Dec 2021	#14
7 kids, 2 adopted from Haiti.	elleng	Dec 2021	#16
What's going to eliminate the 'burden' of pregnancy? Go back and try again, dear.	eShirl	Dec 2021	#21
She is an evil, rich loon. She does not give a shit about the average woman's burdens. nt	SunSeeker	Dec 2021	#22
Some children never get adopted	blueinredohio	Dec 2021	#25
That's cold and heartless. Giving away a child is NOT	Joinfortmill	Dec 2021	#26
Hey Susan Sarandon... HAPPY NOW? Is this the "REVOLUTION" you wanted?	NurseJackie	Dec 2021	#28
Wow. Seven kids. Wonder how she managed that at home. Couldn't possibly work outside the home	Raven123	Dec 2021	#29
Thank you Barely Vetted #2, now shut your Fundie piehole	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2021	#30
Maybe Coney should also promote contraceptives,	gab13by13	Dec 2021	#31
I suggest Amy Coney Barrett relinquish one of her children and see how it goes.	Vinca	Dec 2021	#32
I think they WANT women to feel that guilt - whether or not they give up the child	csziggy	Dec 2021	#37
I agree wholeheartedly	slightlv	Dec 2021	#47
My heart is with you, Vinca.	StevieM	Dec 2021	#72
It isn't about adoption--it's about a woman's right to make her own medical decisions.	Lonestarblue	Dec 2021	#33
Amy Coney Barrett is Serena Joy.	JenniferJuniper	Dec 2021	#34
for sure	bdamomma	Dec 2021	#78
Her Questions Are Not Legal Based	DallasNE	Dec 2021	#36
Maybe drop them all off at her office.	Historic NY	Dec 2021	#38
ABORTION and religion were the ONLY reasons this IDIOT was voted to the SC!	bluestarone	Dec 2021	#40
She wants women to be brood mares	Old Crank	Dec 2021	#41
Mentioned in another thread	area51	Dec 2021	#42
No paid time off for recovery after giving birth either n/t	TexasBushwhacker	Dec 2021	#63
Please forgive me...	hamsterjill	Dec 2021	#45
Does anyone know when we can expect the SC decision?	zanana1	Dec 2021	#46
Aren't all decisions	slightlv	Dec 2021	#48
Yes, the end of June	Polybius	Dec 2021	#51
Thanks to both of you.	zanana1	Dec 2021	#66
Yes thanks	bdamomma	Dec 2021	#79
Isn't This A Legal Case?	RobinA	Dec 2021	#49
Term limits and expansion of the Court.	Dan	Dec 2021	#50
One thing she might want to consider	jmowreader	Dec 2021	#52
The adoptive parents-to-be should seek and be granted legal custody of the fetus up to and after the	keithbvadu2	Dec 2021	#56
I know you mean well, but this idea would be a catastrophe.	StevieM	Dec 2021	#73
I definitely see your point.	keithbvadu2	Dec 2021	#84
And that is a huge issue for someone carrying a fetus	TexasBushwhacker	Dec 2021	#62
She better quit her fucking job and adopt every unwanted baby.	Autumn	Dec 2021	#53
OK, Goody Barrett - what are women supposed to do	Retrograde	Dec 2021	#60
radio ad for Toys for Tots 308 children displaced from homes Wood Cty. WV	Marthe48	Dec 2021	#69
And does she understand that disabled children that are abandoned	TexasBushwhacker	Dec 2021	#82
I had a friend who was aide for a child	Marthe48	Dec 2021	#83
What a low caliber justice!	tonekat	Dec 2021	#70
the	bdamomma	Dec 2021	#75
Aunt Amy likened abortion to terminating parental rights. No you idjit, one is a medical procedure...	Hekate	Dec 2021	#85

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Dec 2, 2021, 02:06 AM

elleng (117,944 posts)

1. One might think that, a woman with 7 children, would understand something more

about the challenges of parenting. (Sorry that neither of her female colleagues on the Court have children.)

'In 1999, Barrett married fellow Notre Dame Law School graduate Jesse M. Barrett, a partner at SouthBank Legal – LaDue Curran & Kuehn LLC, in South Bend, Indiana,[211] and a law professor at Notre Dame Law School.[212] Previously, Jesse Barrett had worked as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Indiana for 13 years.[213] The couple lives in South Bend and has seven children, two of whom were adopted from Haiti, one in 2005 and one after the 2010 Haiti earthquake.[33][214] Their youngest biological child has Down syndrome.[215]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Coney_Barrett

Something peculiar?

'Barrett is a practicing Catholic.[216] Since birth, she has been a member of the Christian parachurch community People of Praise,[217] an ecumenical covenant community founded in South Bend. Associated with the Catholic charismatic renewal movement but not formally affiliated with the Catholic Church,[218][219][220] about 90% of its approximately 1,700 members are Catholic.[218][220] In People of Praise, Barrett has served as a laypastoral women's leader known as a "handmaiden".[221][222'

Justice Coney Barrett questions if adoption laws could eliminate the 'burden' of parenthood for abor

1. One might think that, a woman with 7 children, would understand something more

4. She's rich and has nannies.

35. +++

39. With thousands of children here in the US she adopted from Haiti

68. That's because it's harder to adopt from secular adoption services

74. Putin unloaded a lot of FAS and other unhealthy kids on us.

86. Romania's "orphans" had a lot of psychological issues with abandonment and inability to attach, too

43. She's from a wealthy family.

57. And who pays the bill when a woman's pregnancy goes deadly wrong?

67. That would be the hospital district and county taxpayers. You and I.

80. Yup

2. She's tone deaf!

3. dumbshit authoritarian asshole. she has such little love she thinks it's okay that

44. She's an asshole for even suggesting that a rape victim be FORCED to birth a rape baby.

5. she is an idiot

6. And this is a god damn S.C. JUDGE - give me a damn break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7. Like the burden - yes, burden - of carrying a fetus for 10 months is nothing.

8. Remember, she clerked for Scalia. So her mind is already made up, so she is just looking for ways

9. Must still live in the 1950s.

10. The Stepford Justice.

23. The one who thinks it's just a matter of spit on a finger to tame the odd, unruly tress.

27. 👍

87. Well spotted

11. irrelevant! postulates remedial legislation not in evidence, thus clearly not

12. Its all about raping a woman all over again

13. How many Catholics are on the SCOTUS?

15. Lots, and 2 Jewish members.

17. Is the Federalist Society mainly Catholic?

18. Dunno, haven't studied demographics of Federalist society.

19. Leonard Leo, head of the Federaist Society since 1989

20. 'a very clever strategy' along with repug party.

76. Hey Bigman

81. The GQP is very methodical and plan for the long run.

24. I had a friend who's Catholic. She and I had a debate about a phrase she said was in the bible.

54. Depends on the Catholic. Martin Sheen is pro choice and vocal about it.

55. Yup, they are the minority.

58. Not exactly.

59. Thanks, I love graphs and charts.

61. They're with a pocket of conservatives, Catholic and otherwise.

64. Bindboggling hypocrisy.

65. I learned about evolution in Catholic school.

71. I'll take nine Sonia Sotomayors thank you.

77. RBG

14. just because she has enuf kids to make up a water polo team

16. 7 kids, 2 adopted from Haiti.

21. What's going to eliminate the 'burden' of pregnancy? Go back and try again, dear.

22. She is an evil, rich loon. She does not give a shit about the average woman's burdens. nt

25. Some children never get adopted

26. That's cold and heartless. Giving away a child is NOT

28. Hey Susan Sarandon... HAPPY NOW? Is this the "REVOLUTION" you wanted?

29. Wow. Seven kids. Wonder how she managed that at home. Couldn't possibly work outside the home

30. Thank you Barely Vetted #2, now shut your Fundie piehole

31. Maybe Coney should also promote contraceptives,

32. I suggest Amy Coney Barrett relinquish one of her children and see how it goes.

37. I think they WANT women to feel that guilt - whether or not they give up the child

47. I agree wholeheartedly

72. My heart is with you, Vinca.

33. It isn't about adoption--it's about a woman's right to make her own medical decisions.

34. Amy Coney Barrett is Serena Joy.

78. for sure

36. Her Questions Are Not Legal Based

38. Maybe drop them all off at her office.

40. ABORTION and religion were the ONLY reasons this IDIOT was voted to the SC!

41. She wants women to be brood mares

42. Mentioned in another thread

63. No paid time off for recovery after giving birth either n/t

45. Please forgive me...

46. Does anyone know when we can expect the SC decision?

48. Aren't all decisions

51. Yes, the end of June

66. Thanks to both of you.

79. Yes thanks

49. Isn't This A Legal Case?

50. Term limits and expansion of the Court.

52. One thing she might want to consider

56. The adoptive parents-to-be should seek and be granted legal custody of the fetus up to and after the

73. I know you mean well, but this idea would be a catastrophe.

84. I definitely see your point.

62. And that is a huge issue for someone carrying a fetus