Bond set at combined $1M after Michigan parents enter pleas

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By COREY WILLIAMS and ED WHITE

PONTIAC, Mich. (AP) — A judge imposed a combined $1 million bond Saturday for the parents of the Michigan teen charged with killing four students at Oxford High School, hours after police said they were caught hiding in a Detroit commercial building.

James and Jennifer Crumbley entered not guilty pleas to each of the four involuntary manslaughter counts against them during a hearing held on Zoom. Jennifer Crumbley sobbed and struggled to respond to the judge’s questions at times and James Crumbley shook his head when a prosecutor said their son had full access to the gun used in the killings.

Judge Julie Nicholson assigned bond of $500,000 apiece to each of the parents and required GPS monitoring if they pay to be released, agreeing with prosecutors that they posed a flight risk.

Defense attorneys for the Crumbleys still argued Saturday that they never intended to flee and had made plans to meet their lawyers early that morning. Attorney Shannon Smith accused prosecutors of “cherry picking” facts to release publicly, including that accusation that their teenage son had unrestricted access to the handgun prosecutors say his father purchased for him days before the shooting.



This image from 52-1 District Court shows a Zoom arraignment for James, left and Jennifer Crumbley in Oakland Co., Mich., on Saturday, Dec. 4, 2021. The parents of Ethan Crumbley, a teen accused of killing four students in a shooting at Oxford High School, plead not guilty to involuntary manslaughter charges. ( 52-1 District Court via AP)


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[SheltieLover]

1. They should not be released for any amount, imo

Fking judges releasing violent scum again.

[2naSalit]

24. No shit.

People like that have proven they are a threat to society and the well being of the public.

[SheltieLover]

25. Absofuckingloutely!

What's with these judges?

[2naSalit]

28. "Placed" by you know who?

They seem to have violated some federal laws too so they will be in court for some time, they should not be released from custody while awaiting trial.

[SheltieLover]

29. Right!

[Roy Rolling]

39. Way too low

A million bucks is nothing to wealthy, right-wing gun nuts. Or Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

[SheltieLover]

40. They are both a flight risk, as evidenced by their behavior

& a clear danger to society. Freaks!

[catsudon]

49. i dont' think this is judge's fault.

prosecutor mcdonald asked for the 500,000$ bond

[Luciferous]

52. Yeah, they are clearly flight risks.

[Casady1]

2. flight risk

They should have no bond.

[Wingus Dingus]

3. They bailed on their crazy, mentally-distraught kid, after providing him the means

to murder his classmates. They are pieces of shit on so many levels.

[SunSeeker]

5. Right? It's infuriating they got bail at ANY amount after they fled. nt

[George II]

4. Headline is incorrect. Bond has been set at $half-million for EACH.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Your mathematics seem to be different from mine. Half plus half equals combined million, in mine. nt

[Bengus81]

11. That cash they ran off with would almost get one of them released.........

Maybe MTG could do a fundraiser for both of them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. They withdrew $4,000 from an ATM. . . . nt

[Bengus81]

14. Your right....they need 50K each not 5K. They need MTG more than ever..........

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. In the math in my universe, 50K is well short of 500K. . . nt

[jimfields33]

20. You only need 10 percent so the math is correct.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Ah, I've heard something like that re other bails. But the 90% has to be backed by assets?

I've seen photo of their dumpy house. Doubt it is worth $1 million even if in a ritzy neighborhood.

I could be wrong. And I thank you for posting to sharpen my thinking.

[soldierant]

34. I believe it can e backed by a professional bondsman.

Personally, I would not want tomake a profesisonal bondsman unhappy.

[catsudon]

48. no 10% this time

"JUDGE: Thank you. So in terms of the Court is required to comply with MCR 1.016. The purpose of bond is to ensure that the defendants appear in Court for all necessary Court appearances as well as to take into consideration any risk to public safety. The charges are very, very serious, no question about that. There's -- the Court does have some concern about the flight risk along with the public safety given the circumstances that occurred yesterday and the fact that the defendants did have to be apprehended in order to appear for purposes of arraignment. The Court did indicate yesterday it would conduct an arraignment at 4:00 p.m. The bond for Jennifer Crumbley at $500,000 cash surety, no 10%. In the event that Jennifer Crumbley is able to post that, the following conditions will be in place. The defendant has is not to use or test positive for marijuana or any controlled substances. Mrs. Crumbley is not to possess or have firearms or dangerous weapons. Shall not have any assaultive behavior toward anyone. Must provide a release address to pretrial services. The defendant within 24 hours of release from the Oakland County jail must submit to and pay for ETG or urinal analysis. That would be at the direction of PTS."

[George II]

17. I think AP might have changed their headline. If not I misread it.

[SheltieLover]

27. Qpukes will bail them out in 3, 2, 1...

Bail absolutely should have been denied!

What's with these judges releasing violent scum back into society?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Child abandonment. They are paying for a lawyer but their son is said to have a public defender

I tried to confirm the public defender, which I read on DU, but have not found it.

Detroit CBS say "CNN is trying a new lawyer", which makes no sense unless you tentatively insert some possible words like "trying to contact".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Non-flight-risks go to motel & stay in contact w lawyer, not hide in basement of building at border.

[nilram]

23. And don't need to turn off their phones while in transit.

I wonder if they had a burner phone.

[maxsolomon]

44. Canada would have sent them back.

It's not an option for anything but delay.

[onetexan]

10. What i dont get is why the school let the parents

Make the decision to keep their deeply disturbed child in school having seen him exhibit such troubling behavior. Here we have disturbed parents making disturbing choices for their disturbed son.

[Bengus81]

13. There will be a BIG time civil lawsuit against that school system and it's failures

Those four dead students could have been avoided by the counselor and the principal doing their job.

[Zen Democrat]

18. I think the school administration was at fault for returning that kid to class.

The school has two undercover policemen on campus. They should have been in the meeting with the parents, and if the parents didn't take charge of him, the police should have had him taken to a facility for counseling.

That the school even at that point didn't check his backpack is negligent behavior, and they can be charged.

[intheflow]

51. The cops are probably friends with the family.

They probably all went in on buying guns for their teen-aged sons to get the group discount. This kid is just one bad seed, they'll tell each other.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. This whole thing is orchestrated by Soros there's no dead children, kid & parents are crisis actors

probably under CIA mind-control.

I tell ya, it's all just another liberal plot to take away our gunz!!!11!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Case like Sandy Hook mom who tried to treat son's mental illness by giving him guns. Crumbleys same.

[maxsolomon]

45. Nancy Lanza was egregiously irresponsible.

Ethan Crumbley appears to have been seized with impulsive, homicidal, intrusive thoughts (hence the cry for help drawing), which is not unheard of in his age group. Homicidal impulse + semi-automatic firearm = shooting, but its usually a suicide.

Adam Lanza seems to have been more deliberate and methodical - he planned it for a long time.

[MOMFUDSKI]

22. Shouldn't take very long

for some RW group to bail them out. That is all.

[2naSalit]

26. Yup.

[DENVERPOPS]

35. x 1000

The right wing will elevate them to "Hero Class One" status, and come up with tons of money to bail them all out, and hire them all the best defense attorney's in the nation........just watch........

As in most locations across the entire nation, I can't imagine them being able to seat a jury that doesn't include at least one Trumphumping, second amendment nut job.......

[Bengus81]

43. Pillow guy and wittle Ricky Schroeder like with Rittenhouse

[keithbvadu2]

30. Turn themselves in? That dog don't hunt.

Turn themselves in? That dog don't hunt.

Too late for that fairy tale.

[pwb]

31. One million personal bond. 100 million if crowd funded?

Is what I would require. These funding sites make laws easy on too many criminals.

[relayerbob]

32. WAH!!

Why is it that these RWNJs all seem to think crying is in fashion now?

[Comfortably_Numb]

33. Magats must be sooooo conflicted. They do masturbate with their guns, but they also have kids.

We’ll see if parenthood wins out over gun humping.

[durablend]

38. Please

They'd shoot their own kids to stick it to teh libs. You're naive if you think otherwise.

[3Hotdogs]

53. Nah. My favorite gun-humping quote......

Your dead kid doesn't trump my 2nd. Amendment.





To me, that says it all.

[Skittles]

54. they don't give a DAMN about kids

not at ALL

[Tommymac]

36. Law experts be damned, THIS is why ordinary ole Joe & Jane Sixpack are fed up with our Legal system

NO WAY these 2 evil pieces of trash should be allowed to walk free. (If they were poc they'd be in prison for life already.)

No wonder ordinary folks have less and less respect for our legal system.

These folks are flight risks and should have no bail. Besides the fact that the crime itself is heinous.

But other Q TFG gunners of their ilk will be all over this like flies on shit, whining and making noise on RW Media and social media.

[llmart]

37. She loved Trump so much...

maybe she can ask him to bail them out. After all, she just idolized him.

Honey, don't hold your breath.

[Rebl2]

41. Not nearly enough

They should have no bond in fact.

[DownriverDem]

42. And

no 10% either.

[AverageOldGuy]

46. Charges against the parents . . .

. . . there is not big enough book to throw at them.

I've been poking around the 'net today. Seems that the father was married before, has an 18-yr-old son who lives with the ex-wife.

The ex-wife is not a fan of the current wife:
[link:https://www.rawstory.com/james-and-jennifer-crumbley-2655921579/|https://www.rawstory.com/james-and-jennifer-crumbley-2655921579/
]

"Jennifer was a monster," Cobb recalled. "She could do no wrong and she was right about everything. I mean, this is exactly the kind of attitude she has. Like, she, literally, thought she was better than everyone."

As for the couple reportedly buying their son a handgun as a gift, she stated, "They pretty much gave him whatever he wanted. Why would you let a 15-year-old have access, especially knowing that just a few days prior that he was having problems at school?"

She added, "I hope they get the maximum, honestly, all of them. They deserve it. They need to be held accountable for what their child did. They need to have a reality check."

The kid who murdered his classmates is a victim also -- he never had a chance-- he would have killed someone at some time.

Then, there's this -- Kentucky legislator and his whole family posing for their Christmas card, everyone holding an AR-15.
https://www.rawstory.com/school-shootings-2655921830/

[BigmanPigman]

47. I listened to that and she also said that her 18

year old son who would stay with his dad sometimes said he never saw guns in the house. I find that as odd but who knows what is going on in that family.

[MichMan]

50. Ex wife hates current wife..... how unusual