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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 08:57 PM Dec 2021

Omicron Has Not Killed Anyone Says WHO as New Variant Cases Rise in U.S.

Source: Newsweek

The World Health Organization (WHO) has said that as of Friday, there have been no fatalities linked to Omicron but warned it could take several weeks to determine how infectious the new COVID-19 variant is.

The WHO's assurance comes as the new variant first detected in South Africa last week has now been recorded in 38 countries. In the United States, at least 29 cases of Omicron across 11 states have been reported.

These are California, Nebraska, New York, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Utah, Pennsylvania and Hawaii, CBS News reported. There was also an infection in New Jersey of a Georgia resident.

The WHO said it could also take time to investigate the effectiveness of treatments and whether it causes more severe illness. The organization's emergencies director Michael Ryan said it intended "to get the answers that everybody out there needs." Newsweek has contacted the WHO for further comment.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/omicron-vaccine-covid-who-coronavirus-cases-1656108?utm_source=PushnamiMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=automatic&UTM=1638659518421&subscriberId=61a4c811c7d14e087503da4c

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Omicron Has Not Killed Anyone Says WHO as New Variant Cases Rise in U.S. (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2021 OP
Deaths lag hospitalizations lag symptoms lag infections. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #1
The Dr who reported it says none of her patients have been hospitalized oldsoftie Dec 2021 #7
Yes, this is good news, and I agree with your conclusion. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #17
+1 the beginning of the end I hope.......nt mitch96 Dec 2021 #20
I'm sure your amateur epidemiology knowledge outwieghs the ...checks notes... greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #12
Oh aren't you quick to attack the person rather than the writing. You have less than nothing. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #16
Now, go attack post #6. That would be consistent. They write "deaths lag ...". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #18
Catch 22 if it is the milder variant yaesu Dec 2021 #2
Bingo BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #3
Too many people have lowered their guard this whole time IronLionZion Dec 2021 #10
Maybe good news if a less-deadly strain becomes the dominant one. Liberty Belle Dec 2021 #4
It's in WA state now. cilla4progress Dec 2021 #5
At this point, it's probably everywhere... Salviati Dec 2021 #14
Wisconsin too progree Dec 2021 #15
A sizable increase in hospitalizations in S. Africa progree Dec 2021 #6
they also have a low vax rate. nt oldsoftie Dec 2021 #8
Says who? Effete Snob Dec 2021 #9
Anyone says who progree Dec 2021 #11
Naturally greenjar_01 Dec 2021 #13
This sounds like good news to me. honest.abe Dec 2021 #19
I listen to this person every so often Raftergirl Dec 2021 #21

oldsoftie

(12,514 posts)
7. The Dr who reported it says none of her patients have been hospitalized
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:09 PM
Dec 2021

And thats been several weeks now.
This appears to be more contagious but maybe not as harsh

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,984 posts)
16. Oh aren't you quick to attack the person rather than the writing. You have less than nothing.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 07:04 AM
Dec 2021

If you actually think about what I'm saying, I'm not disagreeing with the WHO. My post did not contradict anything written in the excerpt. So there is no "outweighs". Duh.

Deaths lag hospitalizations.
Hospitalizations lag symptoms (basically tests).
Symptoms lag infections.

Those are well established facts. Prove me wrong or shut up. Those are facts widely printed and disseminated. If you don't know these very basic facts, educate yourself.

The point is that it is still early days in Omicron and there are few cases so far.

The fact that none of the original doctor's patients have been hospitalized is great! As is the fact that nobody has died of Omicron. It's great! It doesn't mean that nobody will be hospitalized. It doesn't mean that nobody will die. There are very few cases yet. So I don't know. My post doesn't claim I know. Nobody knows, not even the WHO, what will happen in the near future or the longer run. If you do, then explain. You don't.

But you got your jollies attacking me for stating pertinent widely known facts. That seems to be what you are about, rather than writing about what was written. Even with icons. Here's one for you



yaesu

(8,020 posts)
2. Catch 22 if it is the milder variant
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:05 PM
Dec 2021

if a milder variant becomes the prominent variant with mild side effects & is non lethal that would be great news but it would also cause people to lower their guard, slow down vaccines, make it harder to control, am I right?

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
10. Too many people have lowered their guard this whole time
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 11:46 PM
Dec 2021

While more vaccines would be available for folks around the world who haven't had a first dose yet if people in the US don't want it.

I'm cautiously optimistic that it is milder and new variants would keep getting milder to it not being a risk even to vulnerable people. We're approaching endemic status I hope.

Delta is still killing unvaccinated people so a variant that doesn't kill anyone is a good thing.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
4. Maybe good news if a less-deadly strain becomes the dominant one.
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 09:28 PM
Dec 2021

Especially if it provides some immunity to the more dangerous versions. Though it's early to draw conclusions, this variant might actually be beneficial if it's less lethal and doesn't have new long-term problems we're not yet aware of.

progree

(10,901 posts)
15. Wisconsin too
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 03:28 AM
Dec 2021
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/12/04/first-omicron-case-identified-in-wisconsin/
First Omicron Case Identified In Wisconsin ((on Saturday)), 12/4/21

One case of the Omicron variant has been identified from a Wisconsin man who recently traveled to South Africa, according to a release.

The man is a Milwaukee County resident who is fully vaccinated and had received a booster dose, said the release. He reported mild symptoms.


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https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/12/04/5-california-residents-infected-with-omicron-after-wisconsin-wedding/
5 California Residents Infected with Omicron After Wisconsin Wedding, 12/4/21

Five out of 12 California residents are infected with the Omicron variant after attending a Wisconsin wedding in Milwaukee County.

The Wisconsin Department of Health Services and the City of Milwaukee Health Department are investing ((investigating )) a COVID-19 outbreak from a wedding on Nov. 27.

According to the release, there are 12 confirmed cases among the California residents who attended the event. One of the individuals attended the wedding upon return from international travel.

A California State lab identified that five of the 12 people diagnosed with COVID-19, were infected with the Omicron variant. The individuals are between the ages of 18-49.

All individuals were vaccinated, and most had received boosters, said the release.


California is already in the OP, but Wisconsin is new.

progree

(10,901 posts)
6. A sizable increase in hospitalizations in S. Africa
Sat Dec 4, 2021, 10:05 PM
Dec 2021

Deaths lag infections by about a month, whereas hospitalizations begin in a few days.

Odd that the Newsweek article didn't mention hospitalizations at all.

This from 5 days ago:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hospitalizations-up-sharply-in-south-african-province-where-omicron-variant-detected/ar-AARj0ao?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Hospitalizations up sharply in South African province where omicron variant detected, The Hill, 11/30/21

The Gauteng province - which includes Johannesburg, the largest city in South Africa - has seen hospitalizations spike by almost 400 percent since the beginning of November, according to NBC News ( https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/covid-19-hospitalizations-rising-south-africas-omicron-hot-spot-rcna6922 )

During the week ending Nov. 6, hospitalizations in the province rose from 120 to 580, according to data from South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD), cited by NBC News.

Hospitalizations, however, have hardly increased in other provinces in South Africa, NBC News noted. Large spikes were only discerned in two of the nine territories in recent months.


Now Google is finding a lot on hospitalizations in S. Africa on kids under 5 with the omicron strain

Plenty of articles to choose from that are more up-to-date and broader in scope than one doctor's experience when the variant was first discovered.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hospitalizations+in+south+africa&oq=hospitalizations+in+south+africa&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61.5984j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

honest.abe

(8,647 posts)
19. This sounds like good news to me.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 11:37 AM
Dec 2021

What would be even better if contracting this new variant will provide some resistance to the more deadly ones. Almost like a natural vaccine.

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