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Polybius

(15,381 posts)
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:48 PM Dec 2021

Biden commission punts on whether to recommend expanding Supreme Court

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden’s Supreme Court commission is not planning on making a recommendation on whether to expand the size of the court, according to a draft report obtained Monday by NBC News.

“The Commission takes no position on the validity or strength” of arguments for or against expanding the number of justices, the report said.

Instead, the report discusses the historical overview of court reform discussions, scenarios of expanding the Supreme Court, questions about the scope of the judiciary and judicial ethics.

The decision not to make a recommendation is likely to anger liberals who called for adding justices following the confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/biden-commission-punts-whether-recommend-expanding-supreme-court-n1285492

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Biden commission punts on whether to recommend expanding Supreme Court (Original Post) Polybius Dec 2021 OP
The supreme court is killing women and our democracy. Something must be done about them. Autumn Dec 2021 #1
Lets not do anything about them stealing 2024 and 2022 while on a roll of doing nothing. Cobalt Violet Dec 2021 #2
this? after watching McAsshole blow up the concept? unreal; no wonder the left has had it... bringthePaine Dec 2021 #3
It NEEDS to be done! Rebl2 Dec 2021 #4
Well, our democracy was nice while it lasted... NullTuples Dec 2021 #5
Wouldn't get upset if SC were expanded, but don't support doing so. Hoyt Dec 2021 #6
It's an impossibility. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2021 #7
I agree with you. Claustrum Dec 2021 #11
They did not win. It's not over yet. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #14
They haven't won. Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #23
They may have not yet actually... Wuddles440 Dec 2021 #24
It would be really swell to have a SC majority come 2024. Baked Potato Dec 2021 #8
Not your headline, but "punts"? There have been 9 Justices on the Supreme Court since 1869.... George II Dec 2021 #9
When was the last time one of the two parties tried to forcibly take over the government? NullTuples Dec 2021 #10
Let me guess ... never? KPN Dec 2021 #29
Um... I can see the Biden adminstration getting bashed from the left. Claustrum Dec 2021 #13
Most definitely. Did not realize it went that far back. Hoyt Dec 2021 #21
Your common sense means nothing here!! oldsoftie Dec 2021 #22
Doesn't help when you put Federalist Society pukes on the commission... RockRaven Dec 2021 #12
Exactly...... turbinetree Dec 2021 #15
Sheldon Whitehouse..... turbinetree Dec 2021 #16
THIS ... KPN Dec 2021 #30
WE will see next week when he releases this report... turbinetree Dec 2021 #31
Did you think they'd choie Dec 2021 #17
They would be damned whatever they recommended. Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #18
NBC used to be News opinion laced headline is tad misleading. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #19
You know, I suspect that you could take a few people with common sense Dan Dec 2021 #20
Maybe they should change their focus to how to convince the sinkingfeeling Dec 2021 #25
That's the result that the administration wanted FBaggins Dec 2021 #26
given the 2 idiot senators supposedly on our side, it would never get expanded. samsingh Dec 2021 #27
The answer is a resounding YES, expand the Supreme Court RIGHT NOW! Escurumbele Dec 2021 #28
Did they address Senate confirmation issues re: McConnell??? bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #32
Some more news: Polybius Dec 2021 #33
I sure wish he'd make up his mind... dlilafae Dec 2021 #34

Autumn

(45,055 posts)
1. The supreme court is killing women and our democracy. Something must be done about them.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:52 PM
Dec 2021

Before it's too late.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
2. Lets not do anything about them stealing 2024 and 2022 while on a roll of doing nothing.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:52 PM
Dec 2021

Why fight them when we can surrender everything to them?

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
7. It's an impossibility.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:03 PM
Dec 2021

I know most everyone here wants this but there’s simply no way it can happen. There’s no point in recommending it.

I know everyone is up in arms over being on the brink of losing democracy but really, that should have been something we’ve worked on for thirty years. We’ve been going down this path for a long time now and no one did anything about it. I’m really tired of repeating this but the bad guys won because they wanted it more. They did everything they needed to do to win while our guys dithered and hemmed and hawed over meaningless procedures and antiquated ideals. Democrats have never looked at this as the war that it is. Republicans never looked at it as anything but.

You can’t govern if you don’t win. They won. It’s a tough pill to swallow for those of us who have been sounding the alarm for decades now.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
11. I agree with you.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:14 PM
Dec 2021

But what is the point of the commission if they aren't going to make a recommendation either way?

At least say it's a impossibility because there isn't enough votes to get it rather than this bs non-answer. It angers more people than it needs to be. It's the Mueller report all over again. I am going to find all your crimes but I am not going to indict or prosecute you......

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
23. They haven't won.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 07:21 AM
Dec 2021

We can still reverse course if everyone gets on board. The fascists aren’t all powerful and we’re not powerless.

Wuddles440

(1,121 posts)
24. They may have not yet actually...
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 09:45 AM
Dec 2021

"won", but they certainly have all the infrastructure in place to all but assure their eventual victory. They adopted a long term strategy decades ago that had as one of its foundational tenets the importance of dominating the media and messaging. Once this 'battle' proved to be a relatively easy victory, the successful execution of the remainder of their plan was just a matter of time.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Not your headline, but "punts"? There have been 9 Justices on the Supreme Court since 1869....
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:13 PM
Dec 2021

That's more than 150 years. I can't see the Biden Administration being bashed for not doing something that hasn't been done in a century and a half.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
13. Um... I can see the Biden adminstration getting bashed from the left.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:17 PM
Dec 2021

Just look at the reaction on this board.

I agree with you that the general public won't though.

oldsoftie

(12,530 posts)
22. Your common sense means nothing here!!
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 06:57 AM
Dec 2021

Adding more to the court because we dont like the results of the last additions just opens the door for the republicans to add more when they are back in charge. And then by 2040 we have a SCOTUS with 29 justices.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
12. Doesn't help when you put Federalist Society pukes on the commission...
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:16 PM
Dec 2021

What sort of result does anyone expect that to yield?

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
31. WE will see next week when he releases this report...
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
Dec 2021

and really how far the media reports this.....

choie

(4,111 posts)
17. Did you think they'd
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:34 PM
Dec 2021

actually have the courage to offer anything other than weak, timid recommendations?

Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
18. They would be damned whatever they recommended.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 12:08 AM
Dec 2021

Biden doesn't need their permission to act. There are many obstacles, but they are not one of them.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
19. NBC used to be News opinion laced headline is tad misleading.
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 12:28 AM
Dec 2021

Commissions aren’t tasked with making political recommendations as is made clear in the very report NBC is pretending to factually report on…

“As a legal matter, we conclude that Congress has broad power to structure the Supreme Court by expanding (or contracting) the number of Justices. The prudential question is more difficult, and Commissioners are divided on whether Court expansion would be wise," the October report stated.

So commission concluded was not prudent to comment on expansion.

Punted or prudent? I pick the word used, not the word plucked.

Dan

(3,548 posts)
20. You know, I suspect that you could take a few people with common sense
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 12:36 AM
Dec 2021

From the general population, that deal in reality, and come up with better opinions than the supposedly smart academics that always seem to find a chicken-shit way out of doing something because they are afraid of what someone might say.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
25. Maybe they should change their focus to how to convince the
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 09:52 AM
Dec 2021

public the SCOTUS isn't a political body and how we should consider it's decisions impartial.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
26. That's the result that the administration wanted
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 09:53 AM
Dec 2021

It should be clear to everyone at this point that it can't happen now. If they had released a report recommending packing the courts, then the president could only fail at delivering. If their recommendation was that the court should not be expanded, then that would further hurt the chances of it happening if we somehow pick up a couple of senate seats ("even the President's commission didn't think it was a good idea" ).

So "punt" is both the right word and the right strategy for today. It's 4th and 20 and we're deep in our own territory. Punting is the right thing to do to improve the chances of scoring on our next possession.

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
28. The answer is a resounding YES, expand the Supreme Court RIGHT NOW!
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 10:35 AM
Dec 2021

What is there to think about? It has to be done before they cause more damage. Kabanough must be investigated thoroughly and then impeached.

bucolic_frolic

(43,127 posts)
32. Did they address Senate confirmation issues re: McConnell???
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
Dec 2021

The Stolen Seat. The Unvetted Seat. The Rushed Vetted Seat. These are quality control issues usurped by raw political power.

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
33. Some more news:
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 12:10 AM
Dec 2021
Biden Supreme Court study panel unanimously approves final report

A bipartisan commission tasked by the White House with exploring possible Supreme Court reforms voted unanimously Tuesday to submit the group’s final report to President Biden.

The 34-member group sounded a neutral tone across its report's nearly 300 pages, referencing “profound disagreement” over a controversial proposal to expand the number of justices, for instance, while declining to adopt a position.

Instead, the study traces the history of the court reform debate and delineates arguments for and against various proposals, occasionally noting areas of bipartisan support, as in the case of imposing term limits on the justices.

The findings, which bear the imprimatur of some of the nation’s foremost constitutional thinkers and court watchers, are likely to shape the contours of future debates over proposals such as limiting the Supreme Court's jurisdiction and providing Congress special authority to override decisions.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/584791-biden-supreme-court-study-panel-unanimously-approves-final-report
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