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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 05:42 PM Dec 2021

Covid: NHS in crisis mode as hospitals told to discharge patients where possible

Source: The Guardian

The NHS was put on a crisis footing tonight as hospitals in England were told to discharge as many patients as possible while estimated daily Omicron cases hit 200,000 and the variant claimed its first life in the UK.

Amid a scramble for tests and booster jabs, the country’s doctors called for further restrictions to be imposed to stem the rise in cases and Downing Street did not rule out fresh measures.

In a letter to hospitals, NHS England chiefs said patients who could be discharged to care homes, hospices, their own homes or hotels before Christmas to free up beds, should be. The letter from NHS England’s chief executive, Amanda Pritchard, and medical director Prof Stephen Powis said the service was facing a level 4 “national incident”.

Hotels are already being turned into temporary care facilities staffed with workers flown in from Spain and Greece to relieve rising pressure on NHS hospital beds.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/13/covid-nhs-in-crisis-mode-as-hospitals-told-to-discharge-patients-where-possible
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Covid: NHS in crisis mode as hospitals told to discharge patients where possible (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2021 OP
First detected 32 days ago. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #1
"people needed to "set aside" the idea that the variant was mild." yaesu Dec 2021 #2
and that is exactly what Fauci and every other reputable medical authority has been saying JohnSJ Dec 2021 #3
Nightmare scenario not fooled Dec 2021 #4
Yep--need to rack up some real numbers of hospitalizations and deaths Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #7
Yikes. Seems like every time it got bad in Europe, we got there too a few weeks later. tanyev Dec 2021 #5
We are about 4 weeks behind UK. LisaL Dec 2021 #6
Q: Are they still infectious? NullTuples Dec 2021 #8
I think the people being sent home are wnylib Dec 2021 #9
This is about discharging non-covid cases muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #10
"workers flown in from Spain and Greece" IronLionZion Dec 2021 #11

yaesu

(8,622 posts)
2. "people needed to "set aside" the idea that the variant was mild."
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 06:07 PM
Dec 2021

I'm not setting aside anything until I see more data, proof of how this variant is different from D, what are the prominent symptoms, what is the hospitalization rate, ect... What we do know is that it seems to be more contagious & probably will be the dominate strain. I'm still holding out hope for it being considerably less Lethal.

JohnSJ

(98,128 posts)
3. and that is exactly what Fauci and every other reputable medical authority has been saying
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 06:11 PM
Dec 2021

not fooled

(6,182 posts)
4. Nightmare scenario
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 06:11 PM
Dec 2021

recombination between Delta and Omicron to produce a new strain with the worst features of each. Caveat: I haven't compared the protein sequences and structures of each to get an idea of how likely such recombination might be (but for sure scientists working on COVID are doing so).

Wingus Dingus

(8,847 posts)
7. Yep--need to rack up some real numbers of hospitalizations and deaths
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 07:28 PM
Dec 2021

due to omicron before I become as concerned about it as I had been for the delta variant.

LisaL

(47,122 posts)
6. We are about 4 weeks behind UK.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 06:36 PM
Dec 2021

So it's a good guess omicron is going to overthrow delta in about 4 weeks in US.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
8. Q: Are they still infectious?
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 07:56 PM
Dec 2021

If so, wouldn't sending them home create a massively parallel super-spreader event?

wnylib

(25,192 posts)
9. I think the people being sent home are
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 08:20 PM
Dec 2021

the ones there for other reasons. They want to cut back on hospital recovery times where possible, in order to be ready for an influx of omicron patients.

Probably best for the patients being sent home, too. If you were in a hospiral for tests or for a few days for a sleep apnea diagnosis, wouldn't you rather go home than be exposed to covid patients being brought in with a very contagious variant?

NY hospitals are not doing elective surgeries now in order to keep space open for more covid patients.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,261 posts)
10. This is about discharging non-covid cases
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 08:22 PM
Dec 2021

to make room for more covid, and more covid-possible, cases. One of the problems hospitals are having is that all patients, whatever the main thing they're in for, have to be divided into known-covid-positive, known-covid-negative, and awaiting-test-results groups, to avoid them infecting each other. This takes up more room, and is one of the things causing delays in A&E (ie 'ER') admissions and work.

They'd also normally be discharging as many patients as possible before Christmas, so the staffing levels can be as low as practical. This could be doing it all a few days earlier.

IronLionZion

(48,090 posts)
11. "workers flown in from Spain and Greece"
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 08:31 PM
Dec 2021

How's BREXIT working out for jolly old England? Can't find enough UK citizens apparently. If only the US could find some extra workers during the so-called "labor shortage".

Seriously, we could use some sort of temporary visa worker system for the undocumented immigrants already here and the folks south of our border who would like to do it legally. And then a pathway to permanent residency and then citizenship.

And then there's health care workers. Workers are the real shortage. They could put up military field hospitals, yes even in cold weather, but they don't have enough health care workers.

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