Jan. 6 rally organizers sue Verizon to block release of cell phone data to congressional committee
Source: Politico
In their lawsuit, Justin Caporale, Tim Unes, Megan Powers and Maggie Mulvaney argued the committee doesnt have the proper authority to obtain the data. The Jan. 6 committees subpoena to Verizon, requesting, call, text and location information lacks a lawful purpose and seeks to invade the plaintiffs constitutional rights to privacy and to confidential political communications, the suit says.
The suit says the plaintiffs have personally complied with the committees investigation, sitting for lengthy interviews and providing thousands of documents to Congressional investigators.
The Plaintiffs are four private citizens who were not involved in any federal government activities or programs. They have only one apparent connection to the matter Congress claims to be investigating: They served as vendors to help staff a peaceful, lawful, orderly and patriotic assembly to promote First Amendment-protected speech, the suit says.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/13/jan-6-rally-organizers-sue-verizon-524189
Isnt there a saying: You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide?

Walleye
(38,873 posts)Republican legislator today in Texas just said the right to an abortion was made up out of whole cloth. It was based on the right to privacy
underpants
(189,345 posts)
Walleye
(38,873 posts)bucolic_frolic
(49,259 posts)So this is just bluster if you ask me
Fullduplexxx
(8,435 posts)They have no standing
Takket
(22,921 posts)if they think the committee doesn't have the right to their phone records, don't they have to sue the committee? How can they sue Verizon? Verizon has just been asked for the records, they have no dog in the fight. If I rob a Wendy's and the camera at the bank next door catches me running away, and the police ask for the tapes from the bank, i can't sue the bank and say "the police have no right to ask for your camera". Can I???
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Hell, the committee probably already HAS the records!
Takket
(22,921 posts)from 2019:
Americans began querying how Schiff could have obtained the phone call records for the report. Some speculated that a secret warrant had been sought for them, that someone at the carrier (AT&T) had leaked them, that the National Security Agency had been tasked with obtaining them, or that a federal agency had issued a natsec letter to acquire them for the intelligence committee.
In reality, the government can obtain these records without taking any such extraordinary measures and no judge even need be involved for Congress to get them. It can simply send a subpoena to the carrier.
This seemingly astonishing explanation exists because under current law, these records are not protected by any warrant requirement. First, based on Supreme Court precedent, obtaining these records is not a search under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures by the government.
In Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979), the court said Americans did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the information showing who they spoke to on the telephone because the phone company possessed that information. With no reasonable expectation of privacy in that information, the court concluded police didnt need a warrant to obtain it.
Orrex
(64,896 posts)Talitha
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Thanks for this info!

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(120,321 posts)As one who made a career in the communication's business (Including 10 years with Verizon) law enforcement can subpoena call records provided they go through the proper channels.
You're right. As the conservatives always like to say, You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.
tishaLA
(14,569 posts)I love when people tell on themselves like this.
Orrex
(64,896 posts)sinkingfeeling
(54,544 posts)jalan48
(14,738 posts)gab13by13
(27,145 posts)Steve Bannon's indictment was cut and dried yet his trial isn't until the middle of July, which he will probably appeal if he is convicted.
jalan48
(14,738 posts)The comparison to Watergate doesnt apply. The Democrats were solidly in control of Congress , plus back then there were moderate Republicans. No one was afraid Nixon loyalists would take control and stop the investigation. We have a very short time frame to make something happen and the longer it drags out the less chance it has of succeeding.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)gab13by13
(27,145 posts)William Seger
(11,468 posts)Historic NY
(38,638 posts)Linda Ed
(511 posts)and committing a crimes, violence and murder on the U. S. Capitol ,,,you get the records ,,,no question..it's not a first amendment issue. First Amendment does not protect Trump from liability for his failure to act once his rally speech set serious federal crimes in motion.
berniesandersmittens
(12,091 posts)Now where have I heard this name before?.....