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Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:36 PM Dec 2021

Sinema pops Democrats' filibuster trial balloon on voting rights

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Source: Politico

Kyrsten Sinema supports the elections reform bill that Democrats are considering a year-end push to pass. She doesn't support a shortcut around the filibuster to get it done.

The Arizona moderate is making clear that she intends to keep protecting the Senate’s 60-vote requirement on most legislation and she isn’t ready to entertain changing rules to pass sweeping elections or voting legislation with a simple majority. Her Democratic colleagues have been discussing those revisions as they weigh dropping their focus on President Joe Biden’s $1.7 trillion climate and social spending bill and pivoting to voting rights, though it’s not clear that avenue will be any more successful.

In a statement to POLITICO, a spokesperson said that Sinema “continues to support the Senate's 60-vote threshold, to protect the country from repeated radical reversals in federal policy which would cement uncertainty, deepen divisions, and further erode Americans’ confidence in our government.” Since joining the Senate in 2019, Sinema’s been a fierce defender of the filibuster and warned that reversing it could lead to terrible outcomes for Democrats down the line.

Sinema continues to support the Freedom to Vote Act, which was negotiated with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), as well as the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, even as she raises questions about how to pass those bills in an evenly divided Senate. Democratic senators have mostly focused on lobbying Manchin to try and sway him to pass elections legislation with a simple majority, but Sinema isn’t there yet either.

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Sinema pops Democrats' filibuster trial balloon on voting rights (Original Post) Jose Garcia Dec 2021 OP
Cue the apologists. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #1
If she does not support removing the filibuster for it, then she does not support the bill. LonePirate Dec 2021 #2
Exactly BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #4
Saying she does not support the bill is redundant, there is no need to state Autumn Dec 2021 #9
She doesn't want her good friends like John Cornyn and Tim Scott to lose their jobs. n/m BradAllison Dec 2021 #3
Did she support the filibuster carve out for raising the debt limit that just passed? PoliticAverse Dec 2021 #5
So many self-inflicted injuries these days. aocommunalpunch Dec 2021 #6
She could end up being responsible for the end of democracy in this country. Mickju Dec 2021 #7
She doesn't give a fuck. n/m BradAllison Dec 2021 #8
let's stop splitting hairs - she is filibustering, not the GOP TomDaisy Dec 2021 #10
Go to AZ, hold a town hall on voting rights and invite Her Majesty BeyondGeography Dec 2021 #11
this!!!!!!!!!!! Takket Dec 2021 #15
Oh, boy. Pass the wine. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #21
Politically she is done, as a functioning pol it is over...results lost cause StClone Dec 2021 #12
A moot point from her. Lucky Luciano Dec 2021 #13
" reversing it could lead to terrible outcomes for Democrats down the line" Takket Dec 2021 #14
Without the voting right's bill PlanetBev Dec 2021 #16
Sinema is a disgrace to Arizona. I won't even go into the local lying ads that are already on. LogicFirst Dec 2021 #17
I Just Can't Even... GB_RN Dec 2021 #18
I refuse to believe anyone that says one thing but refuses to make it happen. LiberalFighter Dec 2021 #19
Sigh. Holding my tongue. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #20
Calling her a 'Moderate' is a lie. pfitz59 Dec 2021 #22
Is she still in the Democratic party? Lunabell Dec 2021 #23
*LOCKING* Spazito Dec 2021 #24

onecaliberal

(32,813 posts)
1. Cue the apologists.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:40 PM
Dec 2021

LonePirate

(13,414 posts)
2. If she does not support removing the filibuster for it, then she does not support the bill.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:40 PM
Dec 2021

I wouldn't expect that right wing hack site Politico to make that point but other news media need to be hammering that home. Her refusal to modify the filibuster is her statement that she does not want the bill to pass. The news media in this country is pathetic for not seeing and stating that.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
4. Exactly
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:44 PM
Dec 2021

She is trying to have her cake and eat it too. It’s not working with this Democrat.

Autumn

(45,041 posts)
9. Saying she does not support the bill is redundant, there is no need to state
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:04 PM
Dec 2021

what is obvious.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
3. She doesn't want her good friends like John Cornyn and Tim Scott to lose their jobs. n/m
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:41 PM
Dec 2021

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. Did she support the filibuster carve out for raising the debt limit that just passed?
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:46 PM
Dec 2021

aocommunalpunch

(4,235 posts)
6. So many self-inflicted injuries these days.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:48 PM
Dec 2021

Occam’s getting a workout.

Mickju

(1,800 posts)
7. She could end up being responsible for the end of democracy in this country.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:49 PM
Dec 2021

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
8. She doesn't give a fuck. n/m
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 08:56 PM
Dec 2021

TomDaisy

(1,868 posts)
10. let's stop splitting hairs - she is filibustering, not the GOP
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:06 PM
Dec 2021

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
11. Go to AZ, hold a town hall on voting rights and invite Her Majesty
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:21 PM
Dec 2021

Time to stop fucking around with these poseurs.

Takket

(21,552 posts)
15. this!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:44 PM
Dec 2021

Brilliant idea. Biden should lead it, with voting rights advocates. Make her sit there in front of her voters while they all explain how she is stabbing them in the back to help the gop.

Joinfortmill

(14,409 posts)
21. Oh, boy. Pass the wine.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:10 PM
Dec 2021

StClone

(11,683 posts)
12. Politically she is done, as a functioning pol it is over...results lost cause
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:24 PM
Dec 2021

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
13. A moot point from her.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:24 PM
Dec 2021

Takket

(21,552 posts)
14. " reversing it could lead to terrible outcomes for Democrats down the line"
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:42 PM
Dec 2021

when we lose the House and rethugs have a super-majority in the Senate because Democrats are shut out from voting and/or geryrmandered out of existence, we'll be able to look back fondly upon the windswept hellscape that is left of our former democracy and be able to say "at least the filibuster still exists"

No one LEGITIMATELY would believe anyone thinks the filibuster is more important than voting rights. that is her bullshit excuse because can't say "i'm taking a massive pile of money from the gop to do their bidding"

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
16. Without the voting right's bill
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:24 PM
Dec 2021

The “terrible outcomes” are already here and will be here for decades to come.

LogicFirst

(571 posts)
17. Sinema is a disgrace to Arizona. I won't even go into the local lying ads that are already on.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:29 PM
Dec 2021

GB_RN

(2,347 posts)
18. I Just Can't Even...
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:45 PM
Dec 2021

This Sinema show has gone on too long.

Yes, I'm WELL aware that she's not the only one that's throwing a monkey wrench into the gears of government and democracy right now...

LiberalFighter

(50,856 posts)
19. I refuse to believe anyone that says one thing but refuses to make it happen.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:58 PM
Dec 2021

Joinfortmill

(14,409 posts)
20. Sigh. Holding my tongue.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:09 PM
Dec 2021

pfitz59

(10,344 posts)
22. Calling her a 'Moderate' is a lie.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:43 PM
Dec 2021

She has turned her back on the millions of Arizonans who worked their butts off to get her elected. Perhaps a once-in-a-generation chance to stop GQP Fascism, AKA 'minority' rule, and she plays cutesy games while raking in Corporate Kash.

Lunabell

(6,075 posts)
23. Is she still in the Democratic party?
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 12:24 AM
Dec 2021

Asking for a friend.

Spazito

(50,260 posts)
24. *LOCKING*
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 12:35 AM
Dec 2021

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