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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:40 PM Dec 2021

Capitol rioter who threw fire extinguisher at police gets more than 5 years in prison

Source: Axios

A capitol rioter from Florida has been sentenced in federal court to more than five years in prison for assaulting police officers during the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection.

Why it matters: The sentence handed down to 54-year-old Robert Palmer is the longest given for any Capitol riot defendant so far.

Editor's note: This is a developing story and will be updated.


Read more: https://www.axios.com/capitol-riot-year-sentence-jan-6-insurrection-77e759ab-d1de-49a8-a736-f114acc7b6d5.html
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Capitol rioter who threw fire extinguisher at police gets more than 5 years in prison (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2021 OP
Finally, a decent sentence. bearsfootball516 Dec 2021 #1
There was one for about 5 years, last week I think it was. Similarly violent crime. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #9
Yeah, Jacob Chansley, the "QAnon Shaman" jmowreader Dec 2021 #22
+1 rogue emissary Dec 2021 #21
Finally is right!!! ailsagirl Dec 2021 #34
No Sanni Claws for him this year. 3Hotdogs Dec 2021 #43
I absolutely agree with you. olegramps Dec 2021 #61
Yep...and I can think of a HELL of alot of others who should have received the same... Bengus81 Dec 2021 #62
This is more like it. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #2
Way past time. LogicFirst Dec 2021 #3
YEAH BABY Leghorn21 Dec 2021 #4
The Fashion Police should have arrested this guy before he became an insurrectionist Mr. Ected Dec 2021 #6
DUzY! n/t ms liberty Dec 2021 #13
Spot on. 3auld6phart Dec 2021 #32
they were busy apprehending the QAnon Shaman. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2021 #46
He may think he's tuff-stuff in a crowd... but in prison, he's in for a big surprise. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #17
and that skinny little guy who is 1/2 his size will .. Botany Dec 2021 #33
Imagine his grandchildren having that photo as a family heirloom! LuckyLib Dec 2021 #52
Another Fake Confession of Remorse! Alien Life Form Dec 2021 #5
Back the Blue.... becomes 'Backstab the Blue' keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #7
Any restraint or opposition to them is automatically "the enemy". They don't want ANY rules. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #11
If i had been one of the cops I would've been firing my weapon as soon as they rushed me. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #53
Good, I think. msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #8
Great point. orangecrush Dec 2021 #16
None of the police who died have homicide listed in their autopsy Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #55
Officer Brian Sicknick was initially reported as Dying from Assault Injuries msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #56
I agree it's pretty suspicious, that's why I worded it that way ... Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2021 #57
Epstein-esque is an apt description, imo msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #60
That's great news! He was probably the most blatant police attacker. Lots of time to stew.... George II Dec 2021 #10
And ponder what a Cha Dec 2021 #48
Why does it take a judge learned in the law and evidence to say such things like: Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #12
Whole lotta Traildogbob Dec 2021 #14
The prosecutor had some very strong and compelling evidence... NurseJackie Dec 2021 #15
It was a plea deal, but the deal was broken.... reACTIONary Dec 2021 #50
Good Bettie Dec 2021 #18
That act could have killed someone bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #19
Better, but not near enough Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #20
Does he get to serve the sentence DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #23
He's going to Federal Prison, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #30
THX DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #36
Then we build more SuperMax. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #37
Hey MCE, how you doing!?! DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #38
Now there's an idea that I could definitely get behind. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #39
Hope everything is going well for you and your family. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #40
Right back at ya DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #47
Excellent! Lunabell Dec 2021 #24
More info here Zorro Dec 2021 #25
From the Washington Post (4 paragraphs) is paywall srose58089 Dec 2021 #26
No worries, bub. TheDonster will pardon you! Grokenstein Dec 2021 #27
Isn't this the guy that hit the officer that died? Bayard Dec 2021 #28
That's exactly my memory... msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #31
If it was, he got off easy. bearsfootball516 Dec 2021 #41
Bravo! SergeStorms Dec 2021 #29
And POOF, Florida man turns into Federal Prison man. What a pity. 11 Bravo Dec 2021 #35
Federal Prison man keithbvadu2 Dec 2021 #51
He wanted 4 more for rump; instead he got 5 ! Captain Zero Dec 2021 #42
Messages Roy Rolling Dec 2021 #44
They honestly thought Trump would pay their attorney's fee as he said on 2016 when AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #45
Hell, Trump isn't even paying his own legal fees DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #49
Doubt he will be allowed to wear MAGA cap while in stir. Sneederbunk Dec 2021 #54
Should Have Had A Zero Added To The End COL Mustard Dec 2021 #58
I hope someone throws a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at him every day in prison. NBachers Dec 2021 #59
he should have gotten 20 years YoshidaYui Dec 2021 #63
I want to see anyone reading this DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #64

bearsfootball516

(6,713 posts)
1. Finally, a decent sentence.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:42 PM
Dec 2021

So far, seems like all of the rioters were getting 1, 2, 3 month sentences.

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
43. No Sanni Claws for him this year.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:20 PM
Dec 2021

And next year,

And next year,

And next year,

And maybe even next year.

And I don't think he's gonna be playing golf at Club Fed either.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
61. I absolutely agree with you.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:45 AM
Dec 2021

I cannot understand how any judge could allow those who are responsible for the actual attempt to violate the Constitution and would not consider it a major offense. This is outright treason in my estimation of the situation. I really think that five years is not enough.

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
62. Yep...and I can think of a HELL of alot of others who should have received the same...
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:53 AM
Dec 2021

Instead of those paltry 24-41 month BS sentences. Those Trump THUGS were trying to overthrow the Government and install Trump this time as a Fuehrer.

January 6th wasn't some Frat party gone wrong.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
2. This is more like it.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:44 PM
Dec 2021

Frankly, I'd have liked to see more like this earlier for lesser offenses and the violent offenders approach double digits. Nonetheless, at least there are real consequences in a 5-year conviction.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
6. The Fashion Police should have arrested this guy before he became an insurrectionist
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:58 PM
Dec 2021

Another lost opportunity.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
32. Spot on.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:25 PM
Dec 2021

I’m damn near 86 and I don’t look that ugly And they
get away with desecrating your flag.His fashion is bad,
but I think I’ve seen some worse than that. Shameful.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
33. and that skinny little guy who is 1/2 his size will ..
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:32 PM
Dec 2021

... beat the shit out of him if that guy even looks at him funny.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
7. Back the Blue.... becomes 'Backstab the Blue'
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:03 PM
Dec 2021

Right Wing police slogans:::::: Empty slogans

Blue Lives Matter
Police lives matter
Back the Blue.... becomes 'Backstab the Blue'

Empty slogans



----------------------------------
A slogan that Trump's terrorists/tourists believe in:::

'Kill him with his own gun'

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
11. Any restraint or opposition to them is automatically "the enemy". They don't want ANY rules. . nt
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:08 PM
Dec 2021
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
53. If i had been one of the cops I would've been firing my weapon as soon as they rushed me.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:16 AM
Dec 2021

Sorry. And also another reason i could never be a cop.
But i bet that would've stopped the entire thing right at the beginning.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
8. Good, I think.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:06 PM
Dec 2021

I'm trying to remember... I feel like an officer that got his head smashed over the head with the fire extinguisher, and then later died in the hospital. but maybe I'm miss-remembering who got his with it and what happened as a result.

The article is silent on what happened with the person receiving the blow from both the fire extinguisher and the plank Palmer used as weapons.


 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
55. None of the police who died have homicide listed in their autopsy
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:36 PM
Dec 2021

The one guy who died like the next day it went down as natural causes of some sort.

Forget if he was this guy's victim.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
56. Officer Brian Sicknick was initially reported as Dying from Assault Injuries
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:59 PM
Dec 2021

Sometime yesterday I ended up googling the story to refresh my memory.

Reporting from NYT January 8th he died as a result of his assault injuries,, but in February the report was updated to align with official line of "stroke".

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/brian-sicknick-police-capitol-dies.html


But here's the deal. We know that he didn't die of natural causes as claimed by the medical examiner.

I will make no further comment, because now I understand the reason for the delayed prosecutions of the more serious crimes on J6.

memories fade, official statements and determinations of events seem to understate or minimize the very nature and character of events as they unfolded.

"moving on" with the on going psy ops campaign so that we can pretend there's really not much to see here.

Because, We collectively as a society do not know how to deal with events of the past five years, much worse the J6 Insurrection/Coup attempt.







 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
57. I agree it's pretty suspicious, that's why I worded it that way ...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:49 PM
Dec 2021

Bottom-line the ME report is what matters when it comes to prosecution for something like this.

Even if it's a bit Epstein-esque.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
60. Epstein-esque is an apt description, imo
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:38 AM
Dec 2021

Every passing day it feels like the public is being served what has become over several decades a sort of 'status quo' treatment of serious criminality involving people in positions of power and wealth.

It may have been naive of me to hope for anything else, but I did have hope for a minute or two just the same.

At some point yesterday morning, it dawned on me, that it is perceived by our current administration, that our institutions and the people running it simply cannot handle dealing with it. Either intellectually, or emotionally I guess.




George II

(67,782 posts)
10. That's great news! He was probably the most blatant police attacker. Lots of time to stew....
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:07 PM
Dec 2021

...and think about his actions.

Cha

(319,074 posts)
48. And ponder what a
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 08:52 PM
Dec 2021

stupid traitor he was following the fffg off the cliff.

That's 5 years of his life in a pit.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
12. Why does it take a judge learned in the law and evidence to say such things like:
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:10 PM
Dec 2021

"It has to be made clear ... trying to stop the peaceful transition of power and assaulting law enforcement officers is going to be met with certain punishment," said Chutkan, who sits on the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.“

Here it is in a nutshell, on a silver plate.

Journalists and editors of America, the CEOs, are you stupider than a judge? Are you going to present any evidence this judge is wrong in any way?

To Prevent the Peaceful Transition of Power.

Obvious, so are is anyone in true journalism or not Fox News pretending the Republican Party was, and still is, not party to all this, meaning the Big Lie is a coverup attempt of Sedition Day, obvious to me.

What more evidence do you need?

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
14. Whole lotta
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:15 PM
Dec 2021

Florida Man’s. Do these people eat algae blooms and drink red tide water for fun? Sorry to the good ones there, but that damn state is fucked up. Do they stay on the trump mailing list while serving so he can scam more cash from them?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. The prosecutor had some very strong and compelling evidence...
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:20 PM
Dec 2021

... I presume that this was a plea deal of some sort. I wonder what the maximum punishment would have been if he had decided to take this all the way to a jury trial (and lost).

reACTIONary

(7,162 posts)
50. It was a plea deal, but the deal was broken....
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 09:29 PM
Dec 2021

... when he lied in a fund raising appeal. The prosecutor pointed out that this indicated lack of remorse and they increased the sentencing range.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
23. Does he get to serve the sentence
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:52 PM
Dec 2021

at a "Camp Cupcake" low security prison?????????

The sentence given is often reduced by a big chunk for good behavior, time already served, etc etc

He and the rest of these assholes will wear their crimes and sentence as a badge of honor.......

Maybe Trump will design an award, bring them down to Mar a Dorko, and put it around their necks in a ceremony attracting tons of Donors to grift money in the process.........

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
30. He's going to Federal Prison,
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:17 PM
Dec 2021

and he ain't going to no country club fed prison, he pled guilty to violent felony and in USDOC, you have to serve at least 85% of your sentence, that's with good time off and there is no parole in the Fed. prison system.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
36. THX
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:41 PM
Dec 2021

Anything short of SuperMax for them is too little as far as I am concerned. The problem would be that supermax would run out of cells really quick for all those in the insurrection.....

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
38. Hey MCE, how you doing!?!
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:55 PM
Dec 2021

How about we just load up planes with all of them, and deport them to Russia??????????

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
39. Now there's an idea that I could definitely get behind.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:59 PM
Dec 2021

Been doing pretty good, bought a second truck, hired a lady trucker friend away from JB Hunt to drive my blue Peterbilt, right now, my new truck is getting it's B service and a new clutch and then it's back on the road.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
40. Hope everything is going well for you and your family.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:01 PM
Dec 2021

Have a merry christmas and a very happy and prosperous new year.

srose58089

(220 posts)
26. From the Washington Post (4 paragraphs) is paywall
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:08 PM
Dec 2021
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/12/17/palmer-sentenced-fire-extinguisher-jan-6/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert&wpmk=1&wpisrc=al_news__alert-national&pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNWUzZjc0OGY5YmJjMGY2MzI2Zjc1ODBlIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vZGMtbWQtdmEvMjAyMS8xMi8xNy9wYWxtZXItc2VudGVuY2VkLWZpcmUtZXh0aW5ndWlzaGVyLWphbi02Lz91dG1fc291cmNlPWFsZXJ0JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX25ld3NfYWxlcnRfcmV2ZXJlJmxvY2F0aW9uPWFsZXJ0JndwbWs9MSZ3cGlzcmM9YWxfbmV3c19fYWxlcnQtbmF0aW9uYWwifQ.YsScLbU7ILO7lkDA-1eMz7MJfeqQFo0uBdBvWTafnQ8

A man who watched and cheered the Capitol riot, then moved to the front of the mob and hurled a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at officers, was sentenced Friday to more than five years in federal prison, the longest sentence given so far to someone charged in the Jan. 6 attack.

"Robert S. Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., pleaded guilty in October to assaulting law enforcement officers with a dangerous weapon, and his original plea agreement called for a sentencing range of 46 to 57 months. But after his plea, and his entry into the D.C. jail, Palmer arranged to make an online fundraising plea in which he said he did “go on the defense and throw a fire extinguisher at the police” after being shot with rubber bullets and tear gas.

That was a lie, Palmer admitted Friday. He had thrown a fire extinguisher — twice — a large plank and then a four- to five-foot pole at police before he was struck with one rubber bullet. The lie indicated a failure to accept responsibility for his actions, prosecutors argued, and when U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan agreed, she increased his sentencing range to 63 to 78 months, ultimately imposing a 63-month term.

“Look behind you,” Chutkan instructed Palmer in the courtroom. “Those are U.S. marshals. They ran from this courthouse. They put themselves in danger to protect the occupants of the Capitol. That’s what they’re sworn to do. They’re the patriots. The people working in the Capitol that night, they are patriots. Doing what they get paid to do, they didn’t know if they were going to come out of there alive that night.”

Grokenstein

(6,356 posts)
27. No worries, bub. TheDonster will pardon you!
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:09 PM
Dec 2021

Just as soon as the day of the Great Reinstatement arrives!
He totally knows who you are and honors your "service"!

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
31. That's exactly my memory...
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:21 PM
Dec 2021

I keep looking for the information in the reports linked in this thread, but no mentions or references are made.

If I had time, I would do the research, but I don't have that time right now. I hope someone so inclined will respond.

But thank you for bringing that question up.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
29. Bravo!
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:15 PM
Dec 2021

Finally, some of these assholes are getting what they deserve.

Now, I want a prison sentence that's equal to, or greater than, this sentence for The Orange Pig. He deserves life without possibility of parole.

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
44. Messages
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:41 PM
Dec 2021

Sometimes everyone demands someone “send a message”. How difficult would it have been to first throw the book at some of them, and way overdo it on other of the most egregious insurrectionists?

Let that message soak the media for a year or two until the appeals courts may reduce the sentences or let good behavior earn them some freedom.

Not the other way around…light sentences first.

I hate messaging, I prefer blunt candor, but if you’re gonna demand messaging know how to perform it for your benefit.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,780 posts)
45. They honestly thought Trump would pay their attorney's fee as he said on 2016 when
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:05 PM
Dec 2021

he barked to get a protestor out and rough him up.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
49. Hell, Trump isn't even paying his own legal fees
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 09:10 PM
Dec 2021

The RNC just gave Trump a ton of money for his own personal defense team...

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
59. I hope someone throws a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at him every day in prison.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:24 AM
Dec 2021

Robert Palmer: Parade of the Obliterators Gotta watch it on YouTube

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
64. I want to see anyone reading this
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 07:00 PM
Dec 2021

confront one of their local police by hitting him on the head with a fire extinguisher and see if they get off with a mere five years.
Especially when two days later he or she dies from a brain injury........Stroke my ass.............

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