Capitol rioter who threw fire extinguisher at police gets more than 5 years in prison
Source: Axios
Why it matters: The sentence handed down to 54-year-old Robert Palmer is the longest given for any Capitol riot defendant so far.
Editor's note: This is a developing story and will be updated.
Read more: https://www.axios.com/capitol-riot-year-sentence-jan-6-insurrection-77e759ab-d1de-49a8-a736-f114acc7b6d5.html
bearsfootball516
(6,713 posts)So far, seems like all of the rioters were getting 1, 2, 3 month sentences.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)42 months, which should have been 45.
rogue emissary
(3,352 posts)ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)And next year,
And next year,
And next year,
And maybe even next year.
And I don't think he's gonna be playing golf at Club Fed either.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I cannot understand how any judge could allow those who are responsible for the actual attempt to violate the Constitution and would not consider it a major offense. This is outright treason in my estimation of the situation. I really think that five years is not enough.
Bengus81
(10,165 posts)Instead of those paltry 24-41 month BS sentences. Those Trump THUGS were trying to overthrow the Government and install Trump this time as a Fuehrer.
January 6th wasn't some Frat party gone wrong.
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)Frankly, I'd have liked to see more like this earlier for lesser offenses and the violent offenders approach double digits. Nonetheless, at least there are real consequences in a 5-year conviction.
LogicFirst
(594 posts)Leghorn21
(14,090 posts)
YESSSSSSS
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)Another lost opportunity.
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)3auld6phart
(1,683 posts)Im damn near 86 and I dont look that ugly And they
get away with desecrating your flag.His fashion is bad,
but I think Ive seen some worse than that. Shameful.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,926 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Botany
(77,323 posts)... beat the shit out of him if that guy even looks at him funny.
LuckyLib
(7,052 posts)Alien Life Form
(370 posts)He got off lightly...
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Right Wing police slogans:::::: Empty slogans
Blue Lives Matter
Police lives matter
Back the Blue.... becomes 'Backstab the Blue'
Empty slogans
Link to tweet
----------------------------------
A slogan that Trump's terrorists/tourists believe in:::
'Kill him with his own gun'
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Sorry. And also another reason i could never be a cop.
But i bet that would've stopped the entire thing right at the beginning.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)I'm trying to remember... I feel like an officer that got his head smashed over the head with the fire extinguisher, and then later died in the hospital. but maybe I'm miss-remembering who got his with it and what happened as a result.
The article is silent on what happened with the person receiving the blow from both the fire extinguisher and the plank Palmer used as weapons.
orangecrush
(30,260 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)The one guy who died like the next day it went down as natural causes of some sort.
Forget if he was this guy's victim.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)Sometime yesterday I ended up googling the story to refresh my memory.
Reporting from NYT January 8th he died as a result of his assault injuries,, but in February the report was updated to align with official line of "stroke".
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/brian-sicknick-police-capitol-dies.html
But here's the deal. We know that he didn't die of natural causes as claimed by the medical examiner.
I will make no further comment, because now I understand the reason for the delayed prosecutions of the more serious crimes on J6.
memories fade, official statements and determinations of events seem to understate or minimize the very nature and character of events as they unfolded.
"moving on" with the on going psy ops campaign so that we can pretend there's really not much to see here.
Because, We collectively as a society do not know how to deal with events of the past five years, much worse the J6 Insurrection/Coup attempt.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Bottom-line the ME report is what matters when it comes to prosecution for something like this.
Even if it's a bit Epstein-esque.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)Every passing day it feels like the public is being served what has become over several decades a sort of 'status quo' treatment of serious criminality involving people in positions of power and wealth.
It may have been naive of me to hope for anything else, but I did have hope for a minute or two just the same.
At some point yesterday morning, it dawned on me, that it is perceived by our current administration, that our institutions and the people running it simply cannot handle dealing with it. Either intellectually, or emotionally I guess.
George II
(67,782 posts)...and think about his actions.
Cha
(319,074 posts)stupid traitor he was following the fffg off the cliff.
That's 5 years of his life in a pit.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)"It has to be made clear ... trying to stop the peaceful transition of power and assaulting law enforcement officers is going to be met with certain punishment," said Chutkan, who sits on the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.
Here it is in a nutshell, on a silver plate.
Journalists and editors of America, the CEOs, are you stupider than a judge? Are you going to present any evidence this judge is wrong in any way?
To Prevent the Peaceful Transition of Power.
Obvious, so are is anyone in true journalism or not Fox News pretending the Republican Party was, and still is, not party to all this, meaning the Big Lie is a coverup attempt of Sedition Day, obvious to me.
What more evidence do you need?
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)Florida Mans. Do these people eat algae blooms and drink red tide water for fun? Sorry to the good ones there, but that damn state is fucked up. Do they stay on the trump mailing list while serving so he can scam more cash from them?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... I presume that this was a plea deal of some sort. I wonder what the maximum punishment would have been if he had decided to take this all the way to a jury trial (and lost).
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... when he lied in a fund raising appeal. The prosecutor pointed out that this indicated lack of remorse and they increased the sentencing range.
Bettie
(19,704 posts)a decent sentence.
bucolic_frolic
(55,137 posts)He still got off light.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)no where near enough.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)at a "Camp Cupcake" low security prison?????????
The sentence given is often reduced by a big chunk for good behavior, time already served, etc etc
He and the rest of these assholes will wear their crimes and sentence as a badge of honor.......
Maybe Trump will design an award, bring them down to Mar a Dorko, and put it around their necks in a ceremony attracting tons of Donors to grift money in the process.........
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)and he ain't going to no country club fed prison, he pled guilty to violent felony and in USDOC, you have to serve at least 85% of your sentence, that's with good time off and there is no parole in the Fed. prison system.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)Anything short of SuperMax for them is too little as far as I am concerned. The problem would be that supermax would run out of cells really quick for all those in the insurrection.....
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)How about we just load up planes with all of them, and deport them to Russia??????????
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Been doing pretty good, bought a second truck, hired a lady trucker friend away from JB Hunt to drive my blue Peterbilt, right now, my new truck is getting it's B service and a new clutch and then it's back on the road.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Have a merry christmas and a very happy and prosperous new year.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)Please stay safe and warm!
Lunabell
(7,309 posts)Back the blue my ass!
Zorro
(18,692 posts)srose58089
(220 posts)A man who watched and cheered the Capitol riot, then moved to the front of the mob and hurled a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at officers, was sentenced Friday to more than five years in federal prison, the longest sentence given so far to someone charged in the Jan. 6 attack.
"Robert S. Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., pleaded guilty in October to assaulting law enforcement officers with a dangerous weapon, and his original plea agreement called for a sentencing range of 46 to 57 months. But after his plea, and his entry into the D.C. jail, Palmer arranged to make an online fundraising plea in which he said he did go on the defense and throw a fire extinguisher at the police after being shot with rubber bullets and tear gas.
That was a lie, Palmer admitted Friday. He had thrown a fire extinguisher twice a large plank and then a four- to five-foot pole at police before he was struck with one rubber bullet. The lie indicated a failure to accept responsibility for his actions, prosecutors argued, and when U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan agreed, she increased his sentencing range to 63 to 78 months, ultimately imposing a 63-month term.
Look behind you, Chutkan instructed Palmer in the courtroom. Those are U.S. marshals. They ran from this courthouse. They put themselves in danger to protect the occupants of the Capitol. Thats what theyre sworn to do. Theyre the patriots. The people working in the Capitol that night, they are patriots. Doing what they get paid to do, they didnt know if they were going to come out of there alive that night.
Grokenstein
(6,356 posts)Just as soon as the day of the Great Reinstatement arrives!
He totally knows who you are and honors your "service"!
Bayard
(29,687 posts)msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)I keep looking for the information in the reports linked in this thread, but no mentions or references are made.
If I had time, I would do the research, but I don't have that time right now. I hope someone so inclined will respond.
But thank you for bringing that question up.
bearsfootball516
(6,713 posts)Should have been charged with murder.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)Finally, some of these assholes are getting what they deserve.
Now, I want a prison sentence that's equal to, or greater than, this sentence for The Orange Pig. He deserves life without possibility of parole.
11 Bravo
(24,310 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Can Trump pardon him 'when' he wins in 2024?
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)Works for me...
Roy Rolling
(7,632 posts)Sometimes everyone demands someone send a message. How difficult would it have been to first throw the book at some of them, and way overdo it on other of the most egregious insurrectionists?
Let that message soak the media for a year or two until the appeals courts may reduce the sentences or let good behavior earn them some freedom.
Not the other way around
light sentences first.
I hate messaging, I prefer blunt candor, but if youre gonna demand messaging know how to perform it for your benefit.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)he barked to get a protestor out and rough him up.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)The RNC just gave Trump a ton of money for his own personal defense team...
Sneederbunk
(17,491 posts)COL Mustard
(8,218 posts)50 years sounds about right to me.
NBachers
(19,438 posts)Robert Palmer: Parade of the Obliterators Gotta watch it on YouTube
YoshidaYui
(45,415 posts)fuck him!
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)confront one of their local police by hitting him on the head with a fire extinguisher and see if they get off with a mere five years.
Especially when two days later he or she dies from a brain injury........Stroke my ass.............