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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:22 PM Dec 2021

Jan 6 investigators believe Nov. 4 text pushing strategy to undermine election came from Rick Perry

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Members of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol believe that former Texas Governor and Trump Energy Secretary Rick Perry was the author of a text message sent to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows the day after the 2020 election pushing an "AGRESSIVE (sic) STRATEGY" for three state legislatures to ignore the will of their voters and deliver their states' electors to Donald Trump, three sources familiar with the House Committee investigation tell CNN.

A spokesman for Perry told CNN that the former Energy Secretary denies being the author of the text. Multiple people who know Rick Perry confirmed to CNN that the phone number the committee has associated with that text message is Perry's number.

The cell phone number the text was sent from, obtained from a source knowledgeable about the investigation, appears in databases as being registered to a James Richard Perry of Texas, the former governor's full name.

The number is also associated in a second database as registered to a Department of Energy email address associated with Perry when he was secretary. When told of these facts, the spokesman had no explanation.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/rick-perry-jan-6-text-mark-meadows-nov-4/index.html
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Jan 6 investigators believe Nov. 4 text pushing strategy to undermine election came from Rick Perry (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2021 OP
Put on your goggles Traildogbob Dec 2021 #1
It's gotta be Rick Perry, by the use of "GA NC PENN." There's only one GOP idiot who doesn't know PA TheBlackAdder Dec 2021 #17
But the glasses. Traildogbob Dec 2021 #20
good catch! mrsadm Dec 2021 #24
And NC went for Trump so why change those results? yardwork Dec 2021 #36
But what happened with his glasses???? Ol' Rick, still dumb as a box of hammers. Comfortably_Numb Dec 2021 #2
Ooooops. tanyev Dec 2021 #3
15 years this maroon was governor of Texas. Comfortably_Numb Dec 2021 #4
What's the "Lawmaker to Meadows" mean? Raven123 Dec 2021 #5
there were several texts, primarily from sitting lawmakers, and this one too. taxi Dec 2021 #14
He should be called back into the air force, go in front of court martial board turbinetree Dec 2021 #6
Ooops! Sending that text from his personal smart phone shows that he's still dumber than a doorknob vlyons Dec 2021 #7
or Slammer Dec 2021 #15
Lock Them All Up DanieRains Dec 2021 #8
See why Trump never emails. gab13by13 Dec 2021 #9
all the bull-shit is bigger in texass !!! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #10
I didn't see that coming....Rick Perry... FarPoint Dec 2021 #11
if the evidence has led to Rick Perry, the investigators have been duped cadoman Dec 2021 #39
He didn't get where he was/is by just being stupid.... FarPoint Dec 2021 #40
"When told these facts" Roy Rolling Dec 2021 #12
'Not surprised he's denying it': SE Cupp confirms Rick Perry's phone number dalton99a Dec 2021 #13
That is a golden morsel bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #16
Yeah, we're going to be needing to talk you him too. ffr Dec 2021 #18
Hubris: excessive pride or self-confidence. ashredux Dec 2021 #19
Another pice of the plot, Do you think there will ever be a public admission that this is ShazamIam Dec 2021 #21
Oh, I'm loving this. Paladin Dec 2021 #22
Oops, on steroids! Excuse me. HAHAHAHAHAHA... czarjak Dec 2021 #23
That stupid clod-hopper is too dumb to even tie his shoes! The guy has a lower I.Q. than my pet rock machoneman Dec 2021 #25
I don't have any problem believing this slightlv Dec 2021 #26
Great post. They are BS crazy. Bumper sticker: "In case of rapture, can I have your car?" Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #28
I'd change that just a little... slightlv Dec 2021 #30
good one! Welcome to DU Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #43
There are 2 things that come before Armageddon TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #34
The word "Rapture" isn't even in the Bible; slightlv Dec 2021 #38
Shall I look for you in the Religion forum? I do 99% of my posting in GD, possibly from being lazy... Hekate Dec 2021 #42
Cool! slightlv Dec 2021 #45
Back in Dubya's administration I was trying to tell others about the Dominionists... Hekate Dec 2021 #41
Rick Perry and Strategy in the same sentence - that makes my thinking meat hurt. Probatim Dec 2021 #27
I'd like to know who fed that idea to Perry and prompted him to tell Trump? Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #29
My thoughts exactly TxGuitar Dec 2021 #32
Could it be Greg Abbott? TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #35
The Fifth Amendment is going to get worn out by the time this investigation is over. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2021 #31
His denial proves he knew he was committing treason. JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #33
Note to future traitors: LudwigPastorius Dec 2021 #37
Nothing like getting Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #44

Traildogbob

(10,614 posts)
1. Put on your goggles
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:28 PM
Dec 2021

And rain gear. Shit is deep and fans are on high. What a blessed Pre Christmas week. We may actually finally have a happy new year in 2022. 20-21 sure sucked.

TheBlackAdder

(29,238 posts)
17. It's gotta be Rick Perry, by the use of "GA NC PENN." There's only one GOP idiot who doesn't know PA
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:33 PM
Dec 2021

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Traildogbob

(10,614 posts)
20. But the glasses.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:18 PM
Dec 2021

He LOOKED smart. More Texas intellect. We are as bad, Meadows, Cawthorn, Tillis, Burr and McCrury wants back in.

yardwork

(65,449 posts)
36. And NC went for Trump so why change those results?
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:10 PM
Dec 2021

Perry didn't even know which states they needed to steal!

Comfortably_Numb

(4,139 posts)
2. But what happened with his glasses???? Ol' Rick, still dumb as a box of hammers.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:30 PM
Dec 2021

Explains the grammatical and spelling errors. That hair doesn’t make up for not having a brain.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,139 posts)
4. 15 years this maroon was governor of Texas.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:36 PM
Dec 2021

Texas republican voters do seem to love ‘em some oops.

taxi

(2,064 posts)
14. there were several texts, primarily from sitting lawmakers, and this one too.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:26 PM
Dec 2021

eta - this is an old one, the seed of how to trick the system.

turbinetree

(25,636 posts)
6. He should be called back into the air force, go in front of court martial board
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:49 PM
Dec 2021

and stripped of his rank, busted in rank and then dishonorably discharged and then fucking locked up....for fucking sedition and treason....

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. Ooops! Sending that text from his personal smart phone shows that he's still dumber than a doorknob
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:50 PM
Dec 2021

But we already knew that. I hope they nail his corrupt ass.

Slammer

(714 posts)
15. or
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:27 PM
Dec 2021

Or he was dumb enough to leave his phone laying around and someone around him took advantage of that to keep from leaving a paper trail of their own.

I'd imagine that everyone around him is more clever than he is....

gab13by13

(26,401 posts)
9. See why Trump never emails.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 04:59 PM
Dec 2021

Perry must not have gotten his burner phone and maybe didn't know how to use the encryption.

cadoman

(1,063 posts)
39. if the evidence has led to Rick Perry, the investigators have been duped
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:10 PM
Dec 2021

I'm sorry but Rick Perry couldn't mastermind a plan to find his reading glasses.

FarPoint

(13,827 posts)
40. He didn't get where he was/is by just being stupid....
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:27 PM
Dec 2021

He is not...he is greedy and without a soul....that is why he is now exposed.... a tool of the others and a willing tool at that....thus, the pushing of the attack on a fair election fit his duty description...

Roy Rolling

(7,256 posts)
12. "When told these facts"
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:23 PM
Dec 2021

This is how reporters do their job. They confront propaganda with facts and ask the question “what about these.

ShazamIam

(2,771 posts)
21. Another pice of the plot, Do you think there will ever be a public admission that this is
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:33 PM
Dec 2021

a plot led by the teapartynetwork along with their international partners. Not just Trump and the syncopates, magats and elected goonies. Rick Perry is pure kochetwork as are all the elected so far implicated in the plotting. Including the Cambridge Analytica/Facebook and Google supporters. The global anti-democratic movement and does it look like they are winning?

Paladin

(29,394 posts)
22. Oh, I'm loving this.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:40 PM
Dec 2021

I want Rick Perry crucified for this. The stupid, greedy, lying, A&M-pimping douchebag.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
25. That stupid clod-hopper is too dumb to even tie his shoes! The guy has a lower I.Q. than my pet rock
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:13 PM
Dec 2021

slightlv

(4,767 posts)
26. I don't have any problem believing this
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:24 PM
Dec 2021

Rick Perry threw in with the New Apostolic Reformation (Dominionists) and has often made remarks such as "Freedom of Religion does not mean freedom FROM religion." They mean to make the United States into a Theocracy by hook or by crook. Lying, cheating, stealing, murder, any crime is forgivable in their eyes if it works towards the goal of theocratic government. This is what true evil looks like, IMO. And Rick Perry has been in on it, and openly so, for quite some time. So has Sister Sarah from Wasilla. Trump, too... but only in what he can get out of it. They've all been "blessed" and had the "laying on of hands" by the church prophets and elders to achieve this goal for god.

That Perry could see this chance to fulfill "his mission" for the church, and then see it fail so spectacularly... he must be chomping at the bit as much as *rump. But he has to keep his name out of print and his head down low if he wants to try it again. Same for Sister Sarah. But they will try it again in other ways they think will not fail. That's why shoring up voting rights is more important right now than anything else on Biden's agenda... or anyone else's. If we can't guarantee everyone the right to vote, nothing else matters; we've lost the very essence of democracy right there. I was BBB, and I'm an unabashed Progressive and proud of it. I want every piece of the Progressive legislation we've been told for decades to just wait and be patient. I'm one who's patience has just run out, too. But even I admit, voting rights MUST come first if we're to be able to have a country in which to BBB. We have to have enough voters on our side who are able to vote to rout out the R's who want to turn our country into a "Russian satellite." POC are canaries in the coal mine in voting rights; women are the canaries for human rights. We will also see our voting rights turned back, as well. There are more than enough republican men AND women who have stated things started "going wrong" once the suffragist movement won the right to vote. Once they strip us of bodily autonomy they will strip us of other rights, as well... chief among them with be the right to vote.

Rick Perry, Sister Sarah, Charismatics, New Apostolic, Evangelicals, Dominionists, Church of God, and so many others who are not the mainstream religions or only skirt the mainstream by flying under the "evangelical" banner, are all fighting hard to make this country a theocracy. Their leadership have relinquished their spiritual aspirations for power in a theocracy and thrown in with the corporations and politicos. But not only do we NOT want to live under a theocracy of the Xtian flavor, their ultimate aim is to kickstart Armageddon. To that end, they'll do anything. Even bomb the Middle East. What would happen if we'd bomb the Kaaba at Mecca? And, in the process, take out the Wailing Wall, too? These are the kinds of things the Dominionists have been thinking about for decades, and planning for. They WANT the 2nd Coming. Never mind that it's a mythology of just one religion. They don't think that way. They'll force that religion on everyone in the world. Destroy the world in their belief such that everyone will finally end up a believer whether they want to or not. This is why I declare them the ultimate evil.

Evolve Dammit

(20,001 posts)
28. Great post. They are BS crazy. Bumper sticker: "In case of rapture, can I have your car?"
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 09:20 PM
Dec 2021

slightlv

(4,767 posts)
30. I'd change that just a little...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:45 AM
Dec 2021

make it more declarative, as in...

"In case of Rapture, I GET your car!"

TexasBushwhacker

(20,840 posts)
34. There are 2 things that come before Armageddon
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:54 AM
Dec 2021

The first thing is the Antichrist, and that is Trump. The Antichrist is destined to not just rule the U.S., but to rule THE WORLD.

The second thing is the Rapture of the faithful. They will not have to endure the chaos of Armageddon. They won't even have to go through the pain and suffering of dying. They will bodily ascend to heaven. This isn't a metaphor to them. It is a fact.

So according to biblical prophecy as they KNOW IT, the rule of the Antichrist is REQUIRED for them to dodge death and be raptured. This is why they don't give a shit about climate change. They won't be here to suffer through it.

slightlv

(4,767 posts)
38. The word "Rapture" isn't even in the Bible;
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 03:55 PM
Dec 2021

it's man's invention; a shortcut of words, made from two words in (I believe) 1 Thessalonians - "caught up". Hal Lindsey ran with it in his books and the rest is history. I can't absolutely say yeah or nay to your second point, tho I am inclined to agree with you. If I remember correctly, there was suppose to be one who was suppose to sow the way for the Anti-Christ who came first, and then the Anti-Christ would come. I think in the Bible they were referred to as Gog and Magog? It's been a number of years for me! But I raised in this stuff until adulthood. I always believed the one who made the world ready (Gog) was Bush the lesser; like you, I believe the Anti-Christ was TFG. Did you see that article that listed all the biblical traits of the Anti-Christ and compared/contrasted to *rump? Man, blew me away at the accuracy!

Everyone expects the Anti-Christ to come out of the Middle East, but I never really bought into that. Revelation gets really into the mystical realm, but the number 7 plays a large role, which is how and where I think the Dominionists made their charts. Frankly, I couldn't see how the 7 heads of the dragon could be anything other than 7 heads of corporations/or departments of government. But this is getting more into the "Religion" forum than into LBN, I think; and I don't want to forum hijack.

If you want to move this discussion over to the other forum, I'd like to continue talking. I rarely have anyone to talk with like this. It's enjoyable to me, although I am deathly fearful of the evangelicals and, especially, the Dominionists for what they have planned and how far down the path they've already come. Although raised and baptized as Evangelical, and having hit most major religious sects prior to becoming an adult, I'm not longer a Xtian. But I am well-read and still remember a lot from my days of living it. I come from a long, long line of preachers. My grandmother was a traveling preacher (because she was female and the male hierarchy wouldn't recognize her... so she had her own "church&quot . My cousins were more orthodox and had churches with congregations, etc... I tried at 18 to enter the Seminary to become a preacher and was laughed out... same thing as my grandmother. I was female. But, instead of forming my own Christian church and doing like her, I found a religious path that better suited my belief system and taught and held services from my own home. I became Wiccan. Funny thing is, as long as I kept "labels" off things, Grandma and I could have great talks about spirituality and religion. Our beliefs were more similar than they were different. It always brings me back to the verse where Jesus says "My Father's House has many mansions." I think there are going to be some hard-nosed evangelicals who might be quite surprised when they reach the pearly gates. (LOL)

Hekate

(96,121 posts)
42. Shall I look for you in the Religion forum? I do 99% of my posting in GD, possibly from being lazy...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 06:06 PM
Dec 2021

But religion interests me very much — in midlife I went back to grad school for an interdisciplinary degree in Mythological Studies.

Your grandma sounds great.

Part of my sojourn, many decades ago, took me to a Lutheran church. The pastor died way too young, but he was an erudite and intellectually curious man. In a discussion he once led he commented on the Book of Revelations thusly: “In the time in which it was written, it was a popular literary genre all across the Mediterranean region.” My jaw dropped. A genre. Not something sui generis, belonging solely to the young Christian sect. A work of the, shall we say, imagination.

Hekate



slightlv

(4,767 posts)
45. Cool!
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 12:02 AM
Dec 2021

Mine was a Jesuit priest at St. Mary's college in San Antonio, TX. It was a philosophy course. I got SO much out of the discussions in that course. I swear, that man could have turned ME Jesuit Catholic! (LOL) As old as we was back then, I know he's gone by now, but I'd dearly love to be able to sit down and talk to him about what's going on in Texas about the Roe v Wade and Texas' loophole around the law. He never liked "shenanigans" with the Truth of things, and I know he'd see Texas's law as being a shenanigan. In his discussion back in college, his comment then was that the life of the mother over-rode the life of the developing fetus, always; and that was biblical.

Yeah, Hekate... you should see me over in Religion. I just rarely start messages. I've got such an awkward mouth on me half the time. But I do love talking religion. As you can tell, I do come from an interesting background, and took it forward in an interesting way. And I think my sister is going to take it her own interesting way, as well, once she retires. Spirituality is very important in the family. So, like you said, I guess it's just plain laziness I end up talking about in inappropriate places (sheepish gryn). I'll see you over at some point. Hubby had teeth pulled, and I promised to make some baked french bread for him (which, the way I do it, comes out as soft as bread pudding)... so I got some work to do for now. But I'll pop over there. We're so close to Yule... anyone posting anything for Yule?

Hekate

(96,121 posts)
41. Back in Dubya's administration I was trying to tell others about the Dominionists...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 05:50 PM
Dec 2021

Originally I learned about Dominionism here almost 20 years ago, and followed the on-line trails until late one night I stared into the heart of darkness and knew I had gone far enough. I quite literally did myself an injury and could scarcely use a keyboard for 3 months. So I started just putting links to the info in my sig-line.

This is by way of saying thank you for bringing this discussion back. These people and their designs are evil.





Ford_Prefect

(8,265 posts)
29. I'd like to know who fed that idea to Perry and prompted him to tell Trump?
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:51 PM
Dec 2021

I had family in TX when Gov. Haircut was in charge. He's as much a fool as Dim Son is and has never had the brains to plot this one.

This smells like the sort of thing some RW think tank would have whipped up for the occasion, along with the who, what, where, money, and how to organize it. Council for National Policy or some other outfit like it did this one and used Perry to deliver it, or had his phone faked to do the same.

JohnnyRingo

(19,642 posts)
33. His denial proves he knew he was committing treason.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:12 AM
Dec 2021

If he thought he was serving his country as a patriot, he would be standing and telling us that he would do it again if he had to, for the love of God and country.

That goes for all the players in the insurrection, including Roger Stone, Jim Jordan, and Mark Meadows. Come out and proudly tell us what you did for the United States of America.

LudwigPastorius

(11,618 posts)
37. Note to future traitors:
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:02 PM
Dec 2021

Never take insurrection planning advice from someone who barely eked out a C in Pig Breeding.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
44. Nothing like getting
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 09:00 PM
Dec 2021

your coup strategy advice from a guy with a degree in Animal Husbandry.

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