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Knight of the Middle

(63 posts)
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 10:52 AM Dec 2021

Omicron cases doubling at least every 3 days, WHO says

Source: Al Jazeera

18 Dec 2021

The Omicron variant of the coronavirus is spreading significantly faster than the Delta strain in countries with documented community transmission, with the number of cases doubling in 1.5 to 3 days, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said.

In an update on Saturday, the United Nations’ health agency said Omicron has been reported in 89 countries. The highly mutated variant is spreading rapidly in countries with high levels of population immunity, the WHO said, but it is unclear if this is due to the virus’ ability to evade immunity, its inherent increased transmissibility or a combination of both.

The agency designated Omicron a variant of concern on November 26, soon after it was first detected by scientists in South Africa, and much is still not known about it. Scientists remain uncertain how dangerous it is, but early data suggests it can be more resistant to vaccines and more transmissible than the Delta variant.

“There are still limited data on the clinical severity of Omicron,” the WHO said in its update. “More data are needed to understand the severity profile and how severity is impacted by vaccination and pre-existing immunity.” It added, “There are still limited available data, and no peer-reviewed evidence, on vaccine efficacy or effectiveness to date for Omicron.”

On Friday, a non-peer reviewed study by Imperial College London said the risk of reinfection with Omicron is more than five times higher and it has shown no sign of being milder than Delta.



Read more: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/18/omicron-cases-doubling-at-least-every-3-days-who-says



I do believe the planet's getting serious.
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Omicron cases doubling at least every 3 days, WHO says (Original Post) Knight of the Middle Dec 2021 OP
"no sign of being milder than Delta" femmedem Dec 2021 #1
after tfg, I can make a sailor cover their ears...... getagrip_already Dec 2021 #3
LOL! femmedem Dec 2021 #20
Damn You! Knight of the Middle Dec 2021 #27
That is very, very bad news. n/t NH Ethylene Dec 2021 #21
'No evidence' Omicron milder than Delta, British researchers say Strelnikov_ Dec 2021 #23
Yes, I hope it is just a case of too soon to say. femmedem Dec 2021 #24
The holidays will make it worse. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #2
I'm doing that and... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #4
Me to. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #5
The only difference... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #7
The unvaxed will get sick or die. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #8
Yup. 2naSalit Dec 2021 #15
To many think they are to young or healthy to get it. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #17
yes Skittles Dec 2021 #26
There go my plans for a New Year's bash among close friends. All vaxxed up and nowhere to go! Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #6
Wow that's gonna rip. Could infect the whole planet in 45 days. bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #9
Yes Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #10
I predict Traildogbob Dec 2021 #11
I drove by a large mall yesterday and the parking lot was packed. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #14
Athletes are Traildogbob Dec 2021 #16
Yes Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #18
I know of 3 people fully vaccinated * that are real sick with it. flying_wahini Dec 2021 #12
Can you give us any more details bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #13
Do they know for certain it is Omicron? NH Ethylene Dec 2021 #22
Yes, Omicron is moving at lightening speed. Quakerfriend Dec 2021 #19
I hope you and your family will be ok. femmedem Dec 2021 #25
There are those in the medical community that say twodogsbarking Dec 2021 #28
MAGA folks will make it great again IronLionZion Dec 2021 #29

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
3. after tfg, I can make a sailor cover their ears......
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:20 AM
Dec 2021

non-stop profanity from their side for four years sharpened my mind's tongue.

Strelnikov_

(8,131 posts)
23. 'No evidence' Omicron milder than Delta, British researchers say
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:33 PM
Dec 2021

This study is a real ray of sunshine. I'd feel better if the report was from Johnny's Disaster Blog.

Hopefully, the cautionary notes at the end regarding the study results pan out.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/18/no-evidence-omicron-milder-than-delta-british-researchers-say

The non peer-reviewed research was based on UK Health Security Agency and National Health Service data on people who tested positive for COVID-19 in a PCR test in England between November 29 and December 11.

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“We find no evidence (for both risk of hospitalisation attendance and symptom status) of Omicron having different severity from Delta,” the study said, although it added that data on hospitalisations remains very limited.

...

“Controlling for vaccine status, age, sex, ethnicity, asymptomatic status, region and specimen date, Omicron was associated with a 5.4-fold higher risk of reinfection compared with Delta,” the study, which was dated December 16, added.

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Depending on the estimates used for vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic infection from the Delta variant, this translates into vaccine effectiveness of between 0 percent and 20 percent after two doses, and between 55 percent and 80 percent after a booster dose.

...

“There is a huge amount of uncertainty in these modelled estimates and we can only be confident about the impact of boosters against Omicron when we have another month of real-world data on hospitalisation ICU numbers and deaths,” he said.



femmedem

(8,545 posts)
24. Yes, I hope it is just a case of too soon to say.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:48 PM
Dec 2021

Thank you for pointing out the uncertainty. A little bit of hope.

2naSalit

(101,049 posts)
4. I'm doing that and...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:25 AM
Dec 2021

Staying home. I knew this would happen back in 2019, I knew I'd still be self isolating and wearing masks in public. I'm vaxxed to the max and still following protocol as if it were March of 2019.

2naSalit

(101,049 posts)
7. The only difference...
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:40 AM
Dec 2021

In most cases, is choice to get vaxxed. Those who choose to abstain will eventually be gone, sooner than the rest of us.

Ford_Prefect

(8,548 posts)
6. There go my plans for a New Year's bash among close friends. All vaxxed up and nowhere to go!
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 11:40 AM
Dec 2021

Curse you DJT and all who sail in you, to the 3rd generation!

Same for your bosom pal Vlad too!

Traildogbob

(12,746 posts)
11. I predict
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:02 PM
Dec 2021

A whole lot of damn dead people in Texas and Florida by February 1. FreeDumb wins. A lot of guns with no owners left.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
14. I drove by a large mall yesterday and the parking lot was packed.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:31 PM
Dec 2021

On a Friday morning.

Maybe half wearing masks and all three shots.

Nothing in the mall I want.



Traildogbob

(12,746 posts)
16. Athletes are
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:42 PM
Dec 2021

Getting this in large numbers. Games being postponed, all those Bowl Games going on are Packed thick. Right wing media still pushing anti Vax/mask shit. Travel, shopping, very few masked, large percent unvaxxed, and Fox Noise. Perfect storm. Don’t think I am being alarmist, just looking at what is happening and it looks like start of 22, may make these last two hell years seem tame.
Not a promising view.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
18. Yes
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:03 PM
Dec 2021

I see dead people.

Even people with the shots are not wearing masks.

Hospitals will not be able to handle the overflow.

Spanish flu all over again.

bucolic_frolic

(54,525 posts)
13. Can you give us any more details
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 12:11 PM
Dec 2021

"real sick". And perhaps their ages. I know it's anecdotal and we can't universally generalize specific cases, but everyone begins to make plans with whatever data they can find

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
19. Yes, Omicron is moving at lightening speed.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 01:10 PM
Dec 2021

My husband and I just spent a few days in Ocean City, NJ-
The place was pretty deserted.

On 12/16 we met up with family to eat at the Crab Trap - 7 of us all together, all fully vaxxed and boosted but one. I thought we would have the whole restaurant to ourselves.
Boy, was I wrong. The place was a mob scene- at least 300 people there & an hours wait for a table! It freaked us out! But, we were treating the gang- So, had to stay.
All servers and restaurant employees were 100% masked up.
The meal was superb but, we couldn’t wait to get out of there.

This am we got word that one of our cousins has tested positive after being at party with the whole family. He was vaxxed but not yet boosted. There are 60+ in the family including 11 under the age of 12. They were all there together. We will see how many catch it. 😢

All of the hospitals in my area (Philadelphia) are suddenly at ~91-105% capacity- not good.

femmedem

(8,545 posts)
25. I hope you and your family will be ok.
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 04:50 PM
Dec 2021

No serious cases.

The cousin was at your family meal at the Crab Trap and you were exposed?

IronLionZion

(51,020 posts)
29. MAGA folks will make it great again
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 09:57 AM
Dec 2021

they go out of their way to get it and spread it for "natural immunity". So there may be fewer of them by November.

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