Dan Crenshaw Tells Americans Not To Comply With Court Mandate Ruling
Source: Crooks and Liars
If you don't comply to the federal mandate, you'll get fired. Will Dan Crenshaw pay your mortgage or rent? Methinks not.
By John Amato December 19, 2021
On Friday, a federal appeals court reinstated the Biden administrations vaccine and testing requirement for private businesses, which affects about 80 million American workers.
CNBC reports, "The ruling by the 6th U.S. Court of Appeals in Cincinnati lifted a November injunction that had blocked the rule from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which applies to businesses with at least 100 workers."
On that same night, Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas told his hundreds of thousands followers on Twitter not to follow the court's ruling..........................
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RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)Loser, wish he could be held accountable.
BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)I know if he were to die of Covid I would not shed a tear.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)And hundreds of thousands of people who clicked a button on Twitter are not followers
they r social media clickers. Not same thing in my encyclopedia.
Use English words properly ffs,
journalist?
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)Do not comply with court mandates? There are no repercussions? What can the House do if federal laws cant/dont ?
Doodley
(11,913 posts)reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... MLK advocate civil disobedience? Which is advocating breaking the law. Advocating civil disobedience isn't against the law, is it?
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)Advocates of MLK went to jail, were fined, beaten by cops and arrested for their civil disobedience. By its very nature civil disobedience is illegal. Otherwise it would be called obedience.
Now, if it is moral or not is another issue.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts).... ADVOCATING civil disobedience is not.
In answer to the question "inciting people not to follow the law. Isn't that illegal?" I would say no, at least not in this circumstance.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)In some cases advocating civil disobedience is illegal like incitement. In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person to commit a crime. Depending on the jurisdiction, some or all types of incitement may be illegal. Where illegal, it is known as an inchoate offense, where harm is intended but may or may not have actually occurred.
So, in some cases when an average person would think of it as merely encouragement to civil disobedience, it is actually considered incitement.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... "Do not comply". Setting aside that non-compliance would probably not be crime (you get fired, not arrested) would this be incitement? Seems like he is expressing a negative opinion or at most civil disobedience of an excusable sort.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)The government makes the business say to their workers "get vaccinated for free or we will test you regularly." And the employee says no I won't get vaccinated and I won't let you test me. Then the corporation says I am required to fire you.
Now it seems to me the employee can say no to both shots and testing and then get fired and that seems to be the end of it. So yeah, the worker can do that and I see it as more of a workplace issue and not really civil disobedience. So, no I don't see it as illegal.
Now if the business decides they will not fire the refusing worker then that would be an actual OSHA violation. Since it's an administrative policy, it is not civil disobedience and administrative consequences would apply like fines, warnings or notices on the business. Since I don't see businesses and corporations as people, I really don't see this as civil disobedience.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Nothing more hateful than wanting people to get sick and die, but what you going to do about it have same kind of hate speech laws that work perfectly fine in many nations, and look ma, no violation of any freedom!
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... not to get vaccinated is certainly not hate speech, by any definition applied in any where in the western world.
Any prohibition on "hate speech" is a limitation on freedom of speech, and, IMHO, an unjustified limitation on freedom of speech. As far as I'm concerned that is a fundamental violation of a fundamental freedom.
Midnight Writer
(25,410 posts)They are using people as expendable pawns.
The GOP has determined that the more people die, the better their own political fortunes.
It turns my stomach.
marybourg
(13,640 posts)the most pride in: peaceful transfer power, even after a heavily contested election, and complying with Supreme Court orders, even when you disagreed with it, have now been trashed by the publican party.
greatauntoftriplets
(179,005 posts)He can go to hell.
texasfiddler
(2,199 posts)niyad
(132,440 posts)I see what you did there......
Orrex
(67,111 posts)Because a great many people are, after all, ignorant racist fuckheads, and a great many businesses will pander to the ignorant racist fuckheads to the exclusion of anyone else.
100-person businesses will likely comply out of basic corporate survival mode, but very few small businesses will elect to follow the mandate, and many will broadcast that fact proudly.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Small businesses are not required to follow it.
Orrex
(67,111 posts)More's the pity. The mandate should apply to all businesses with more than 1 employee.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)For the most part businesses like it when the government sets the rules. So they dont have to be the only one looking like villains
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)I remember from my history books the slogan around the 1900s "Factories are made for children and children are made for factories."
That was when the filthy rich wanted to keep child labor rules and other safety precautions out of factories. There were so many dismemberings caused by factory work, whole towns looked like they had been involved in mass battles or wars.
The filthy rich usually always fight safety requirements being imposed on their favorite profit extraction systems.
Walleye
(44,806 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)Good point.
Lovie777
(22,980 posts)sakabatou
(46,148 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)He might as well be saying - Quit your jobs and stand in the bread line.
paleotn
(22,218 posts)He lost an eye for nothing. Pathetic, really. He disgusts me.
lonely bird
(2,941 posts)This is what they want, period.
Anyone who votes Republican supports the destruction of America, period.
IronLionZion
(51,268 posts)so these folks who get fired for noncompliance can always work in sawmills, meatpacking, or restaurant service.
Joe Manchin must be creating tons of mining jobs by blocking BBB so these folks can dig coal.
Inflation might be a bit worse for folks who lose their income.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Crowman2009
(3,524 posts)Who the hell would want be around them 24/7?
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Paladin
(32,354 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,704 posts)Over 200 million people are fully vaxxed. More than 60% of the total population (and there's still an age group ineligible) is fully vaxxed. Another 40 million have had the first shot. Finally, 63 million people have been boosted.
So, this intransigence on the part of morons like Crenshaw seems to be falling on deaf ears, aside from the 20% that will never get vaxxed, and don't need his approval or support.
He just spitting into the wind, and it's damned convenient because that fool is vaccinated.
Besides, many companies decided to do it without regard to the mandate, because it's good business.
Of course, a guy who worships a business failure like TFG wouldn't understand the first thing about good business.