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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,697 posts)
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:04 PM Dec 2021

GOP lawmakers back Navy service members' lawsuit over vaccine mandate

Source: The Hill

A group of Republican lawmakers are backing 35 Navy service members who are suing the Pentagon and Navy over the military's coronavirus vaccine mandate.

The group of 47 lawmakers - 38 House Republicans and nine GOP senators - filed an amicus brief in a Texas federal court supporting the lawsuit, which seeks to enjoin the Pentagon from enforcing the mandate because it violates religious freedoms.

"Plaintiffs' religious liberty and the government's asserted interest in protecting our service members from COVID-19 need not be in conflict, especially where, as here, the individuals seeking an exemption are willing to adopt non-vaccination measures to protect themselves and others from the spread of COVID-19," the lawmakers wrote.

The Pentagon told The Hill that it would be "inappropriate to comment on any pending or ongoing litigation."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-lawmakers-back-navy-service-members-lawsuit-over-vaccine-mandate/ar-AARZOJv

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GOP lawmakers back Navy service members' lawsuit over vaccine mandate (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 OP
"Religious Liberty" Docreed2003 Dec 2021 #1
They did not. Because if they had, they would Ray Bruns Dec 2021 #8
Exactly Docreed2003 Dec 2021 #25
Same here. Lined up, walking in straight line getting tagged in both arms with multiple. Missn-Hitch Dec 2021 #27
Exactly - they gave us a bunch! TimeToGo Dec 2021 #19
good luck w that shit. mopinko Dec 2021 #2
I guess they will also have religious freedom to refuse combat orders. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #3
Boys my age were drafted against their will and stuck with all kinds of vaccines Walleye Dec 2021 #4
And, we have a winner here! OldBaldy1701E Dec 2021 #33
Just dump these whiners with a General Discharge Submariner Dec 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #14
I would not want to serve with these pussy's ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #21
😆👍 Walleye Dec 2021 #34
It will be thrown out. James48 Dec 2021 #6
Idiots.. Historic NY Dec 2021 #7
These are the mandatory vaccinations that all service members are required to receive before initial nykym Dec 2021 #9
Can someone please point to the part of the Bible that restricts vaccination? oldsoftie Dec 2021 #10
list of senators and Reps who signed on rurallib Dec 2021 #11
None of whom are a surprise. The only surprise is that there aren't more. LoisB Dec 2021 #17
I'm surprised there wasn't anyone from TN. 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #20
No Marjorie Taylor Greene? They can't be serious! JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2021 #31
Republicans decide military servicemembers should not follow orders. ZonkerHarris Dec 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #15
Bullshit trumps force readiness.... paleotn Dec 2021 #13
Of course they do. By the way, what happens next time these sailors are given an order? Will LoisB Dec 2021 #16
If they've gotten ever ONE other vaccine since enrollment NickB79 Dec 2021 #18
they might try reading it before signing ??????????????????? monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #23
Discharging the service members who refuse to take the vaccine, is discharging those 70sEraVet Dec 2021 #22
brainwashed by a draft - dodger that daddy got him out with a pay-off -fact ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #24
It's a damn shame BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #26
Given the vaccinations they have already taken without protest, any protest now is dubious. Gore1FL Dec 2021 #28
Awwww aren't they cute with their predictable never ending dumbfuckery? Brainfodder Dec 2021 #29
Do the courts even have jurisdiction over the military though? cstanleytech Dec 2021 #30
Military service demands The Wizard Dec 2021 #32
agreed !!!! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #35
Why did they get all the other vaccines? Turbineguy Dec 2021 #36

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
1. "Religious Liberty"
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:07 PM
Dec 2021

Such a horseshit excuse for refusing the vaccination.

Wonder if any of these sailors had issue with any of the other mandated vaccines they received during their time of service?

Ray Bruns

(6,362 posts)
8. They did not. Because if they had, they would
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:31 PM
Dec 2021

have been out on their ass a long time ago.

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
25. Exactly
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 07:44 PM
Dec 2021

I can't remember how many random vaccines they gave us before deploying to Afghanistan. I do vividly remember going down the line and getting shots in both arms.

Irish_Dem

(81,261 posts)
3. I guess they will also have religious freedom to refuse combat orders.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:12 PM
Dec 2021

Combat might be dangerous.

Walleye

(44,800 posts)
4. Boys my age were drafted against their will and stuck with all kinds of vaccines
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:14 PM
Dec 2021

Take the shot. That’s an order from superior officer. Period. Religious freedom? I remember Thou shalt not kill, navy seal. You knew what the job was when you signed up right, sailor

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
33. And, we have a winner here!
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 10:07 AM
Dec 2021

You signed up for the military. You were given an order. You don't like it? GTFU! (Get The Frak Out)

Submariner

(13,365 posts)
5. Just dump these whiners with a General Discharge
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:17 PM
Dec 2021

with the message that no veterans benefits are forthcoming. Zero $$$.

If you can't trust a shipmate, etc to conform to the norms that protect each other wherever their mission exposes them to danger, then they need to be kicked to the curb.

This is nothing more than a trump ass kissing move.

Response to Submariner (Reply #5)

James48

(5,214 posts)
6. It will be thrown out.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:29 PM
Dec 2021

Anybody who has been tossed out already (only a few) didn’t claim religious exemption.

Anybody who claimed religious exemption, if it has been denied, they have the option of appealing the denial. Until the administrative appeal is held, they cannot proceed with a federal lawsuit.

And you can only sue the federal government if the federal government agrees to be sued. The military gets to set the standards for its members.

This will be thrown out without action.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
9. These are the mandatory vaccinations that all service members are required to receive before initial
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:31 PM
Dec 2021

Adenovirus
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Influenza
Measles, mumps, rubella
Meningococcal
Poliovirus
Tetanus-Diphtheria
Varicella

Other vaccines administered depending on risk and occupation:

NEWSWEEK SUBSCRIPTION OFFERS >
Anthrax
Haemophilus influenzae type B
Japanese encephalitis
Pneumococcal
Rabies
Smallpox
Typhoid fever
Yellow fever

https://www.newsweek.com/list-vaccines-mandated-us-military-covid-1641228
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
10. Can someone please point to the part of the Bible that restricts vaccination?
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:48 PM
Dec 2021

And why some are ok but others not?

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
11. list of senators and Reps who signed on
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 03:53 PM
Dec 2021

In support of this motion, proposed amici state as follows:
1. Proposed amici are United States Senators and Members of the United States House of Representatives. Amici from the U.S. Senate include:
Sen. Ted Cruz (TX);
Sen. Rick Scott (FL);
Sen. Mike Lee (UT);
Sen. James M. Inhofe (OK);
Sen. James Lankford (OK);
Sen. Steve Daines (MT);
Sen. Roger F. Wicker (MS);
Sen. Mike Braun (IN); and
Sen. Roger Marshall (KS).

Amici from the U.S. House of Representative include:
Rep. Mike Johnson (LA-04);
Rick Allen (GA- 12);
Rep. Brian Babin, D.D.S. (TX-36);
Rep. Jack Bergman (MI-01);
Rep. Andy Biggs (AZ-05);
Rep. Dan Bishop (NC-09);
Rep. Lauren Boebert (CO-03);
Rep. Mo Brooks (AL-05);
Rep. Kat Cammack (FL-03);
Rep. Andrew Clyde (GA-09);
Rep. Warren Davidson (OH-08);
Rep. Rodney Davis (IL-13);
Rep. Jeff Duncan (SC-03);
Rep. Bob Gibbs (OH-07);
Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX- 01);
Rep. Bob Good (VA-05);
Rep. Paul Gosar, D.D.S. (AZ-04);
Rep. Michael Guest (MS-03);
Rep. Andy Harris, M.D. (MD-01);
Rep. Vicky Hartzler (MO-04);
Rep. Jody Hice (GA-10);
Rep. Clay Higgins (LA-03);
Rep. Darrell Issa (CA-50);
Rep. Ronny L. Jackson (TX-13);
Rep. Doug LaMalfa (CA-01);
Rep. Doug Lamborn (CO-05);
Rep. Billy Long (MO-07);
Rep. Thomas Massie (KY-04);
Rep. Brian Mast (FL-18);
Rep. Mary Miller (IL-15);
Rep. Gregory F. Murphy, M.D. (NC-03);
Rep. Ralph Norman (SC-05);
Rep. Scott Perry (PA-10);
Rep. Matthew Rosendale, Sr. (MT-at-large);
Rep. Chip Roy (TX-21);
Rep. W. Gregory Steube (FL-17);
Rep. Randy Weber (TX-29); and
Rep. Daniel Webster (FL-11).

Response to ZonkerHarris (Reply #12)

paleotn

(22,212 posts)
13. Bullshit trumps force readiness....
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:09 PM
Dec 2021

Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

And Crenshaw can go fuck himself. He's shit on his service. Fucking bastard.

LoisB

(13,027 posts)
16. Of course they do. By the way, what happens next time these sailors are given an order? Will
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:30 PM
Dec 2021

they be allowed to only follow orders they like or agree with?

NickB79

(20,354 posts)
18. If they've gotten ever ONE other vaccine since enrollment
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:51 PM
Dec 2021

They've got ZERO standing. If it doesn't violate your liberty to get the other 20 shots the military requires, COVID is no different.

USMC: You Signed the Motherf*cking Contract!

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
22. Discharging the service members who refuse to take the vaccine, is discharging those
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 07:27 PM
Dec 2021

service members who are the most brainwashed by right-wing propaganda.
Sounds like a successful strategy.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
26. It's a damn shame
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 08:36 PM
Dec 2021

We can’t get rid of these GQP assholes as fast as these traitors will get tossed out of the military.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
28. Given the vaccinations they have already taken without protest, any protest now is dubious.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 10:22 PM
Dec 2021

I have a hard time visualizing this going anywhere. It's pretty lame.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
29. Awwww aren't they cute with their predictable never ending dumbfuckery?
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 11:14 PM
Dec 2021

Separation between church and state means nothing?

Can I sue for pain and suffering from even reading about all this corruption/dumbfuckery?




The Wizard

(13,735 posts)
32. Military service demands
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 08:50 AM
Dec 2021

sacrificing certain choices. In Vietnam we had to present our shot record and have it brought up to date before they'd give us our paychecks. Whining about vaccinations was not part of the equation.

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