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Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:00 AM

'I'm Going to Ignore Them': Adams on Council Members' Letter About Solitary Confinement

Source: NBC NY

Eric Adams says he’s the next mayor of New York City whether the also newly-elected council members “like it or not.”

One the same day the mayor-elect scrapped his inauguration ceremony due to rising COVID-19 cases, Adams had a few choice words bout his colleagues to-be who signed a letter Tuesday criticizing his plans to put violent inmates on Rikers Island into solitary confinement.

Twenty-nine incoming New York City councilmembers said in the letter that solitary confinement is considered a form of torture by the United Nations, human rights organizations and medical experts, adding that evidence shows the method actually causes more violence.

In response to the letter, which was sent to both Adams and reporters, Adams said the councilmembers' desire is to be "disruptive."

Read more: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/im-going-to-ignore-them-adams-on-council-members-letter-about-solitary-confinement/3463395/

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Reply 'I'm Going to Ignore Them': Adams on Council Members' Letter About Solitary Confinement (Original post)
Polybius Dec 2021 OP
tenderfoot Dec 2021 #1
NJCher Dec 2021 #2
femmedem Dec 2021 #3
WHITT Dec 2021 #4
Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #11
George II Dec 2021 #15
Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #26
Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #28
George II Dec 2021 #14
Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #5
Tomconroy Dec 2021 #6
RandPaulsNeighbor Dec 2021 #19
Tomconroy Dec 2021 #22
hlthe2b Dec 2021 #7
Tomconroy Dec 2021 #8
oldsoftie Dec 2021 #9
COL Mustard Dec 2021 #10
Javaman Dec 2021 #12
mopinko Dec 2021 #16
Javaman Dec 2021 #17
mopinko Dec 2021 #18
George II Dec 2021 #13
RandPaulsNeighbor Dec 2021 #21
WHITT Dec 2021 #27
Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #20
Tommymac Dec 2021 #23
ripcord Dec 2021 #24
Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #25

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:07 AM

1. This is what NYC needs!



Solitary confinement that'll fix the subway.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:12 AM

2. I'm not liking this

Maybe one of the 5 women he appointed can talk some sense to him.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:21 AM

3. Not liking it either.

A shockingly bad beginning to his term, IMO.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:35 AM

4. There Were A Lot Of Red Flags

early on in the campaign, and then he 'won' with only 30% of the vote.

Looking like a one-termer.

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Response to WHITT (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:23 AM

11. There should have been a runoff IMO.

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Response to Crowman2009 (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:26 AM

15. Progressives in New York wanted ranked choice voting and they got it. I don't like that myself...

Too many also ran candidates wound up campaigning for other candidates to be voters' second choice, which games the sytem.

Either way, Adams won the Primary and clearly won the General Election.

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:21 PM

26. I prefer the French voting system myself.

Paper ballots, no results until the next day, and run off elections.

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 23, 2021, 11:34 PM

28. Ranked choice is a bad idea as demonstrated by this guy...he had a minority of support...get rid of

ranked choice it is and always was a bad idea.

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Response to WHITT (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:22 AM

14. He won with about 51% of the Primary vote after ranked choice voting, and then 73% in November.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:21 AM

5. This type of attitude

Should work out very well for the new mayor as he “works” with the City Council to solve the numerous problems facing any urban area.

I see nothing but good times ahead……..

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:21 AM

6. Violent inmates who attack staff and other inmates are united

in their opposition to Mayor-Elect Adams. They believe they should not be segregated from the general inmate population.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:11 AM

19. Seriously?

As though only violent offenders get solitary. Go talk to Kalief Browder, oh wait you cannot because he killed himself after 3 years in Rikers and 1 year in solitary.

He was 16 when he got arrested for supposedly stealing a $50 backpack (never went to trial). Eric Adams is exactly who I thought he was.

He is a deformer of progressive police policies. Wait until the next Eric Garner gets killed for no reason by his old mates at NYPD, it is a given which side he will come down on, and it ain't justice for the victim.

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Response to RandPaulsNeighbor (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:49 AM

22. He's talking segregation, not solitary

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:22 AM

7. Highly overcrowded Rikers is so close to an "ATTICA" event. He may well have just lit the match.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 06:52 AM

8. New Yorkers express their anger at Mayor-Elect Adams' get

tough on violent criminals policies:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CXqizpHIAb5/?hl=en

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 07:53 AM

9. Looks like Adams doesnt plan to be the disaster DeBlasio was.

Although he has a low bar to clear

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 08:51 AM

10. This Guy Sounds Like A Real Winner

I think I'm glad I don't live in NYC, although I visit there from time to time.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:58 AM

12. having grown up in NYC and lived there half my life...

NYC has had a lot of asshole mayors, it appears they are continuing the trend.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:46 AM

16. chicago mayors, too, but i think you need a little asshole in ya to do the job.

i think big city folks have a lot of tolerance for assholes who get shit done. if they dont, not so much.
strikes me as flaky, tho.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:57 AM

17. I have no problem with leaders having to be assholes sometimes, as Truman once said...

"sometimes you have to be a bastard"


but this move with solitary confinement and the bitcoin bullshit is like basic assholery.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:59 AM

18. def. all gut, no brain.

knee jerk bullshit. the bitcoin thing-

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:19 AM

13. Good for him. From what I've seen he's going to be a very good if not great Mayor.....

Certainly better that most of the recent Mayors.

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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:15 AM

21. Check back in a year

He is a disaster in the making. Will you support him when he runs against Biden in 24 as an Independent spoiler candidate?

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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 01:50 PM

27. For Who?




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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:15 AM

20. Oh Boy! Another round of Progressives vs the world, or so the headline reads.

I'm progressive, let me say that up front. I am a traditional progressive from the FDR, LBJ, McGovern, et al school. I do not believe in overturning and redefining every single term and program used to discuss daily life or Democratic policy.

I respect the need for change and desire of those new to the process to accomplish needed change quickly in light of eminent threats. However I have too often seen the pattern wherein "Four legs good, Two legs bad" becomes the mantra and dogma of the party or leading group within it.

Words and Methods matter. Absolutism leaves no room to negotiate towards a practical result, however important the ultimate goal may be.

I don't know this new mayor, or the new slate of city councilors. I haven't lived in NY for some time. I do recall the Attica rebellion and the ruthless attack which ended it. That hit me nearly as hard as the Kent State Massacre. It cannot be a good thing to have such an avowedly confrontational situation at the beginning of term. It leaves little room for movement or constructive results. So far as I have heard the new mayor is Not in the mold of DJT. He does seem to be certain of his ground as does the new Council.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 12:01 PM

23. Authoritarians are not limited to any particular political party.

I'll bet he thinks he means well, but the optics of the situation are stark.

And this guy at the least sounds like a classic authoritarian...'It's my way or the highway'.

Kinda like how 'not very good at politically sensitive issues' some politicians sound.

Kinda like how abusive people sound.

Kinda like how dictators sound.

It's a slippery slope.




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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 12:36 PM

24. We are going to lose seats to our stance on crime

London Breed is already being attacked by people on the left for saying she wants to deal with the shoplifting mobs and clean up open drug use in the Tenderloin, the same for Lori Lightfoot who has asked the ATF to come in to help deal with the illegal guns in her city. In my opinion it is good to see mayors looking out for the victims rather than the criminals.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 22, 2021, 12:39 PM

25. It's all in the details, but his statement was not helpful.

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