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Polybius

(15,034 posts)
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:00 AM Dec 2021

'I'm Going to Ignore Them': Adams on Council Members' Letter About Solitary Confinement

Source: NBC NY

Eric Adams says he’s the next mayor of New York City whether the also newly-elected council members “like it or not.”

One the same day the mayor-elect scrapped his inauguration ceremony due to rising COVID-19 cases, Adams had a few choice words bout his colleagues to-be who signed a letter Tuesday criticizing his plans to put violent inmates on Rikers Island into solitary confinement.

Twenty-nine incoming New York City councilmembers said in the letter that solitary confinement is considered a form of torture by the United Nations, human rights organizations and medical experts, adding that evidence shows the method actually causes more violence.

In response to the letter, which was sent to both Adams and reporters, Adams said the councilmembers' desire is to be "disruptive."

Read more: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/im-going-to-ignore-them-adams-on-council-members-letter-about-solitary-confinement/3463395/

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'I'm Going to Ignore Them': Adams on Council Members' Letter About Solitary Confinement (Original Post) Polybius Dec 2021 OP
This is what NYC needs! tenderfoot Dec 2021 #1
I'm not liking this NJCher Dec 2021 #2
Not liking it either. femmedem Dec 2021 #3
There Were A Lot Of Red Flags WHITT Dec 2021 #4
There should have been a runoff IMO. Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #11
Progressives in New York wanted ranked choice voting and they got it. I don't like that myself... George II Dec 2021 #15
I prefer the French voting system myself. Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #26
Ranked choice is a bad idea as demonstrated by this guy...he had a minority of support...get rid of Demsrule86 Dec 2021 #28
He won with about 51% of the Primary vote after ranked choice voting, and then 73% in November. George II Dec 2021 #14
This type of attitude Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #5
Violent inmates who attack staff and other inmates are united Tomconroy Dec 2021 #6
Seriously? RandPaulsNeighbor Dec 2021 #19
He's talking segregation, not solitary Tomconroy Dec 2021 #22
Highly overcrowded Rikers is so close to an "ATTICA" event. He may well have just lit the match. hlthe2b Dec 2021 #7
New Yorkers express their anger at Mayor-Elect Adams' get Tomconroy Dec 2021 #8
Looks like Adams doesnt plan to be the disaster DeBlasio was. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #9
This Guy Sounds Like A Real Winner COL Mustard Dec 2021 #10
having grown up in NYC and lived there half my life... Javaman Dec 2021 #12
chicago mayors, too, but i think you need a little asshole in ya to do the job. mopinko Dec 2021 #16
I have no problem with leaders having to be assholes sometimes, as Truman once said... Javaman Dec 2021 #17
def. all gut, no brain. mopinko Dec 2021 #18
Good for him. From what I've seen he's going to be a very good if not great Mayor..... George II Dec 2021 #13
Check back in a year RandPaulsNeighbor Dec 2021 #21
For Who? WHITT Dec 2021 #27
Oh Boy! Another round of Progressives vs the world, or so the headline reads. Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #20
Authoritarians are not limited to any particular political party. Tommymac Dec 2021 #23
We are going to lose seats to our stance on crime ripcord Dec 2021 #24
It's all in the details, but his statement was not helpful. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #25

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
4. There Were A Lot Of Red Flags
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 04:35 AM
Dec 2021

early on in the campaign, and then he 'won' with only 30% of the vote.

Looking like a one-termer.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Progressives in New York wanted ranked choice voting and they got it. I don't like that myself...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:26 AM
Dec 2021

Too many also ran candidates wound up campaigning for other candidates to be voters' second choice, which games the sytem.

Either way, Adams won the Primary and clearly won the General Election.

Crowman2009

(2,453 posts)
26. I prefer the French voting system myself.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 12:21 PM
Dec 2021

Paper ballots, no results until the next day, and run off elections.

Demsrule86

(68,055 posts)
28. Ranked choice is a bad idea as demonstrated by this guy...he had a minority of support...get rid of
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 10:34 PM
Dec 2021

ranked choice it is and always was a bad idea.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. This type of attitude
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:21 AM
Dec 2021

Should work out very well for the new mayor as he “works” with the City Council to solve the numerous problems facing any urban area.

I see nothing but good times ahead……..

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
6. Violent inmates who attack staff and other inmates are united
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 05:21 AM
Dec 2021

in their opposition to Mayor-Elect Adams. They believe they should not be segregated from the general inmate population.

RandPaulsNeighbor

(104 posts)
19. Seriously?
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:11 AM
Dec 2021

As though only violent offenders get solitary. Go talk to Kalief Browder, oh wait you cannot because he killed himself after 3 years in Rikers and 1 year in solitary.

He was 16 when he got arrested for supposedly stealing a $50 backpack (never went to trial). Eric Adams is exactly who I thought he was.

He is a deformer of progressive police policies. Wait until the next Eric Garner gets killed for no reason by his old mates at NYPD, it is a given which side he will come down on, and it ain't justice for the victim.

COL Mustard

(5,718 posts)
10. This Guy Sounds Like A Real Winner
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 07:51 AM
Dec 2021

I think I'm glad I don't live in NYC, although I visit there from time to time.

Javaman

(62,347 posts)
12. having grown up in NYC and lived there half my life...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 08:58 AM
Dec 2021

NYC has had a lot of asshole mayors, it appears they are continuing the trend.

mopinko

(69,582 posts)
16. chicago mayors, too, but i think you need a little asshole in ya to do the job.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:46 AM
Dec 2021

i think big city folks have a lot of tolerance for assholes who get shit done. if they dont, not so much.
strikes me as flaky, tho.

Javaman

(62,347 posts)
17. I have no problem with leaders having to be assholes sometimes, as Truman once said...
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:57 AM
Dec 2021

"sometimes you have to be a bastard"


but this move with solitary confinement and the bitcoin bullshit is like basic assholery.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Good for him. From what I've seen he's going to be a very good if not great Mayor.....
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 09:19 AM
Dec 2021

Certainly better that most of the recent Mayors.

RandPaulsNeighbor

(104 posts)
21. Check back in a year
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:15 AM
Dec 2021

He is a disaster in the making. Will you support him when he runs against Biden in 24 as an Independent spoiler candidate?

Ford_Prefect

(7,714 posts)
20. Oh Boy! Another round of Progressives vs the world, or so the headline reads.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 10:15 AM
Dec 2021

I'm progressive, let me say that up front. I am a traditional progressive from the FDR, LBJ, McGovern, et al school. I do not believe in overturning and redefining every single term and program used to discuss daily life or Democratic policy.

I respect the need for change and desire of those new to the process to accomplish needed change quickly in light of eminent threats. However I have too often seen the pattern wherein "Four legs good, Two legs bad" becomes the mantra and dogma of the party or leading group within it.

Words and Methods matter. Absolutism leaves no room to negotiate towards a practical result, however important the ultimate goal may be.

I don't know this new mayor, or the new slate of city councilors. I haven't lived in NY for some time. I do recall the Attica rebellion and the ruthless attack which ended it. That hit me nearly as hard as the Kent State Massacre. It cannot be a good thing to have such an avowedly confrontational situation at the beginning of term. It leaves little room for movement or constructive results. So far as I have heard the new mayor is Not in the mold of DJT. He does seem to be certain of his ground as does the new Council.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
23. Authoritarians are not limited to any particular political party.
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:01 AM
Dec 2021

I'll bet he thinks he means well, but the optics of the situation are stark.

And this guy at the least sounds like a classic authoritarian...'It's my way or the highway'.

Kinda like how 'not very good at politically sensitive issues' some politicians sound.

Kinda like how abusive people sound.

Kinda like how dictators sound.

It's a slippery slope.




ripcord

(4,961 posts)
24. We are going to lose seats to our stance on crime
Wed Dec 22, 2021, 11:36 AM
Dec 2021

London Breed is already being attacked by people on the left for saying she wants to deal with the shoplifting mobs and clean up open drug use in the Tenderloin, the same for Lori Lightfoot who has asked the ATF to come in to help deal with the illegal guns in her city. In my opinion it is good to see mayors looking out for the victims rather than the criminals.

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