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TexasTowelie

(112,217 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 03:01 PM Jan 2022

Federal Lawsuit Alleges 16 Elite Universities Engaged In Price Fixing

Source: Forbes

Sixteen of the nation’s most elite universities are being sued for alleged violations of antitrust laws by colluding to unfairly limit student financial aid.

The lawsuit, which was filed in Illinois federal court by several law firms representing five students who previously attended some of the universities. was first reported in the Wall Street Journal.

The plaintiffs claim that the universities engaged in a price fixing scheme by sharing a methodology for how much financial aid would be awarded to prospective students. Specifically, the suit alleges that the defendant universities “have participated in a price-fixing cartel that is designed to reduce or eliminate financial aid as a locus of competition, and that in fact has artificially inflated the net price of attendance for students receiving financial aid.”

If true, that would be a violation of Section 568 of the Improving America’s Schools Act of 1994, which says that universities can collaborate when they develop their financial aid formulas, but only if they do not consider applicants’ financial need in their individual admission decisions.

Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/01/10/federal-lawsuit-alleges-16-elite-universities-engaged-in-price-fixing/?sh=287b3d1a73ad



The defendants are Brown University, California Institute of Technology, University of Chicago, Columbia University in the City of New York, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Duke University, Emory University, Georgetown University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Northwestern University, University of Notre Dame, University of Pennsylvania, Rice University, Vanderbilt University, and Yale University.
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Federal Lawsuit Alleges 16 Elite Universities Engaged In Price Fixing (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jan 2022 OP
Gee, ya think? /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #1
In other words the most expensive schools are doing it. flying_wahini Jan 2022 #2
more like they don't want to be outbid by more aggressive schools.... getagrip_already Jan 2022 #8
Unless, Mr. Evil Jan 2022 #9
Other than Notre Dame and Duke only in basketball .... paleotn Jan 2022 #12
Two of the schools in the suit are MIT and Caltech jmowreader Jan 2022 #16
Interesting that Harvard is not on the list. Quakerfriend Jan 2022 #3
or Stanford kimbutgar Jan 2022 #4
Stanford guarantees that people will only have to pay the Family Contribution portion from FAFSA JT45242 Jan 2022 #7
I wish I was smarter when I was younger to go to Stanford ! Sigh! kimbutgar Jan 2022 #10
90% of Harvard's undergraduates pay less than going to a state school. marie999 Jan 2022 #14
Wonder what the total of all their endowments are? oldsoftie Jan 2022 #5
The majority of that list is in the top ten... EarthFirst Jan 2022 #6
More than the GDP of most countries. paleotn Jan 2022 #13
Cancel all student loans from those schools! Yandex Jan 2022 #11
Whoa. Had no idea this was a scheme msfiddlestix Jan 2022 #15

getagrip_already

(14,757 posts)
8. more like they don't want to be outbid by more aggressive schools....
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jan 2022

They are still offering aid, but since they know, and have agreed on how much, it ceases to be a deciding factor for students.

It also allows them to put a cap on financial aid without having to worry about getting skewed acceptance rates.


pretty slimey, but I don't think it's intended to keep poor students out.

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
12. Other than Notre Dame and Duke only in basketball ....
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:04 PM
Jan 2022

the rest aren't really known for their athletics. In football, Duke, Vanderbilt and Northwestern are the perennial doormats of their power 5 conferences. Rice is the doormat of a non-power 5 conference. The Ivy's don't even give conventional athletic scholarships. Cal Tech competes in NCAA Div III. That's waaaaay out of the money leagues. But the one thing they all have in common is they're academic powerhouses. It's all about non compete agreements for academically gifted students when it comes to aid.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
16. Two of the schools in the suit are MIT and Caltech
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 05:56 PM
Jan 2022

From what I’ve heard, those two schools take you into a room with a football on the table and ask you what it is.

If the answer is, “it is an oblate spheroid with a leather covering. It has a length of X and a circumference of Y. It has a density of W and requires a force of V newtons to cause the surface to deflect. The practical application of this object is unknown at this time, but due to its characteristics I believe it to be a well-preserved artifact of an unknown culture,” you receive the next question, which is “explain what happened at the Great Dome in May 1994” if you’re applying to MIT or “describe the seating at the Red Door Cafe in 1998” for Caltech prospects.

If you say it’s a football, they tell you the University of North Carolina would be a better fit for you.

Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
3. Interesting that Harvard is not on the list.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 03:25 PM
Jan 2022

My sons attended one of these schools.
We were not eligible for aid but,
I did notice that many of their friends from college were ‘uber’ rich- parents flew around the country to NBA games, one grew up in same CT neighborhood where Oprah and the Clintons had homes, homes in Aspen etc.
This has been going on at many more colleges, as well.

JT45242

(2,278 posts)
7. Stanford guarantees that people will only have to pay the Family Contribution portion from FAFSA
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 04:11 PM
Jan 2022

FAFSA gives you an expected family contribution (what they think the family can afford).

Schools are not required to give you enough financial aid to meet that projection. Those that do are probably not on the lawsuit (Case Western and Stanford are the two that my son applied to),

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
14. 90% of Harvard's undergraduates pay less than going to a state school.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jan 2022

If parents make under $65,000 tuition is free. There is a sliding scale for others whose parents make less than $150,000. Over half of their students are POC. Of course, Harvard can afford it with an endowment of over $53 billion.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
15. Whoa. Had no idea this was a scheme
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:07 AM
Jan 2022

I'm fuzzy on how it actually works, even though it is laid out in these excerpts.

But that's because my thinking on profit schemes have always been rather dense.

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