It Gets Real For Trump In Georgia As His Lawyers Meet With Prosecutors About Criminal Election Inter

[LymphocyteLover]

Source: Rachel Maddow/MSNBC via Politics USA

Rachel Maddow reported that the criminal investigation into Trump’s election interference in Georgia now has his lawyers meeting with prosecutors.

Link to tweet

"We do actually have some breaking news to start with at this hour. We can report exclusively tonight that attorneys for former president Donald Trump have now met in person with the Fulton County district attorney’s office in Georgia. Now it was months ago that we first learned that the prosecutor who leads that office had opened a criminal investigation into alleged violation of Georgia state law that occurred when election officials of Georgia were pressured and intimidated after the last presidential election that they should, effectively, falsified the results of that states election.


It was a year ago, January 3rd, last year, when The Washington Post published this shocking audio reporting of an extraordinary hour-long phone call that then-president Trump made personally to Georgia’s top elections officials telling him that he needed to find exactly the number of votes in the state that would allow Trump to falsely be declared the winner there.

Now, in Georgia, as in every state in the country, pressuring election officials to interfere with the lawful administration of an election, pressuring election officials to change election results, that of course is a crime. The state prosecutor’s office in Fulton County, Georgia, opened that investigation under Georgia state law. Pressuring or intimidating election officials is a Georgia state crime. It’s a crime in every state in the country, and of course, it’s also a federal crime."

Read more: https://www.politicususa.com/2022/01/11/it-gets-real-for-trump-in-georgia-as-his-lawyers-meet-with-prosecutors-about-criminal-election-interference-investigation.html

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https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/trump-lawyers-met-in-person-with-georgia-prosecutor-s-office-130565189868?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/589123-georgia-prosecutor-says-decision-on-trump-election-interference-case


This is often the last step before prosecutors seek an indictment - giving the target’s lawyers a chance to present evidence & argument as to why the target should not be indicted. Looks like Georgia MIGHT be the 1st out of the blocks to indict Trump. But they won’t be the last.

Link to tweet

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[gab13by13]

1. Too bad DOJ didn't get involved.

[L. Coyote]

3. So, you're in a position to know what DoJ isn't doing?

Or are you just saying you know but you don't?

The rest of find out what DoJ is doing when they knock on someone's door with a search warrant at 5 AM. This was a federal crime too, so DoJ is probably involved and aiding the local jurisdiction in every way they can, or most certainly in the loop.

[gab13by13]

9. I listen to experts on TV,

Day 27 since Garland received Meadow's criminal referral, I do know that. That's the case that was pushed on Garland and it's just for ignoring a subpoena.

Question for you, if you want, why is Garland taking so long with the Meadow's referral? I am pretty darn sure I know why.

[L. Coyote]

11. Obviously they are not experts, or you would know

a Congressional referral for contempt goes to the DC USA who is required to take it before a grand jury.

The Six Trump Associates Whom DOJ Is Investigating
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/01/08/the-six-trump-associates-whom-doj-is-investigating/

Because I keep having to lay out the proof that DOJ, in fact, has investigated close Trump associates of the sort that might lead to Trump himself, I wanted to make a list of those known investigations. Note that three of these — Sidney Powell, Alex Jones, and Roger Stone — definitely relate to January 6 and a fourth — the investigation into Rudy Giuliani — is scoped such that that it might include January 6 without anyone knowing about it.

[gab13by13]

13. Those people who Garland is investigating

aren't being investigated for their role in the coup, according to someone who responded to the article.

paul lukasiaksays:
January 8, 2022 at 1:13 pm
"As much as I admire and respect the work that you do, in this instance its clear that you are reaching for anything that will allow you to claim that the DoJ is on the job when it comes to the coup attempt.

But there is no evidence that the investigation of Rudy has anything to do with the actual coup. Barrack is all about being a foreign agent — not about the coup. Powell is about grift — not a coup attempt. Alex Jones is not a Trump associate. And based on what you are claiming, the investigation into “anonymous” has nothing to do with the coup.

Leaving us with Roger Stone — who has already demonstrated a willingness to be tried and convicted for obstruction to protect Trump, and was rewarded with a pardon for doing so. That is not exactly fertile ground for an investigation that will eventually charge Trump.

If Merrick Garland had any intention of rocking the boat, he would have asked at least one of the prosecutors that Mueller hired to come back to the DoJ and prosecute Trump on the Russia obstruction charges. But Garland has not done that "

[gab13by13]

18. It appears that the select committee did send its referrals to DOJ

A criminal referral or criminal recommendation is a notice to a prosecutory body, recommending criminal investigation or prosecution of one or more entities for crimes which fall into that body's jurisdiction.

In the U.S. federal government, regulatory and law enforcement agencies that investigate crimes must typically refer cases to the Department of Justice for prosecution at its discretion. These referrals may not require formal documentation, but may include a case report. In a direct referral, agencies refer cases to the U.S. Attorney in the district where the crime occurred.[1] The United States Congress and its members, in their investigative role, issue criminal referrals to the Justice Department as well.[2]

Above from Wikipedia.

[L. Coyote]

24. I got my law degree on Wikipedia ... kidding. Read the statutes.

There is a very explicit procedure, which I explained. Some random wiki entry isn't the pertinent law.

[TeamProg]

8. More likely coming after state convictions.

I'm thinking of the politics of it all.


If a right wing state can convict with the evidence on hand -so can the DOJ - and the DOJ would be then more free from political adversity.


That's my best guess.

TFG is not getting off the hook.

[gab13by13]

10. If the Fulton county DA decides not to indict

of course Trump is getting off the hook for that phone call. There is no guarantee that the state will indict, it appears to be headed that way, we shall see.

[Tommymac]

16. Politics SHOULD NOT influence the Law.The Law can arrest, self trial and kill for ...

allegedly selling a cigarette or allegedly passing a counterfeit $20 bill...

but has to take Months or even years to prosecute insurrection, graft, corruption, and even high treason???????????

I don't buy it.

[Miguelito Loveless]

2. Until someone is in handcuffs,

it is all theater.

[calimary]

6. Does seem to come down to that, doesn't it.

[msfiddlestix]

7. yeppers

This report doesn't mention WHEN prosecutors met with the defeated psychopath's lawyers, I infer this was a recent event based on this reporting. If true, why on earth are they just meeting with them now in context of timing of 2020 elections and the upcoming campaign for the next?

This is often the last step before prosecutors seek an indictment - giving the target’s lawyers a chance to present evidence & argument as to why the target should not be indicted. Looks like Georgia MIGHT be the 1st out of the blocks to indict Trump. But they won’t be the la

[Bev54]

19. It was in mid Dec just before Trump putting out his freakout tweet

about the dems just wanting to put everyone in jail or whatever. The tweet tells us what the prosecutors must have indicated to Trump's lawyers.

[Scrivener7]

17. Yup.

[LymphocyteLover]

20. I will happy to see an actual indictment though

[Miguelito Loveless]

23. That would be a move forward.

[L. Coyote]

4. #FailedCoupGuy's lawyers have met with the Fulton County DA's Office

#FailedCoupGuy's lawyers have met with the Fulton County DA's Office

More there, my GD post yesterday when this was breaking news.

[LymphocyteLover]

21. Thanks-- I figured someone had posted this in GD

[L. Coyote]

25. And I figured the story would land here when more info was available.

[nocoincidences]

5. I think the old white men

who are dragging their feet, you know who they are, are going to be shown up big time by the young Black women prosecutors who are going for the orange throat of TFG.

Fani Willis and Letitia James are snapping at his porky heels. Yippee!!

[LymphocyteLover]

22. Indeed. Thank god for Black women!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

12. Lock him up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JohnnyRingo]

14. It's beginning to look like their primary defense now is...

...they're tired of the endless investigations and so called "witch hunts". If the Congress keeps investigating they're liable to turn up crimes committed.

They don't even want to defend themselves against accusations anymore.

[garybeck]

26. mark my word, the defense will be:

he really thought the election was stolen

[JohnnyRingo]

27. "It's only a lie if they know it's a lie"

The George Costanza defense.
We've seen hints of this from Rudy who says it wasn't his job to factcheck everything he hears and reads on the internet.

[garybeck]

28. Eggzactly

I'm not a lawyer and I don't know how it plays out in court but that is going to be the defense 100%

[BobTheSubgenius]

15. Oh, please, oh please, oh please....and so on.