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brooklynite

(94,482 posts)
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:25 AM Jan 2022

Austria to start fines for unvaccinated in March, Nehammer says

Source: Bloomberg

Austria will impose fines on those without Covid-19 vaccinations from mid-March after a transition phase that starts in February, said Chancellor Karl Nehammer.

People unwilling to get inoculated will face penalties of as much as 3,600 euros ($4,108), the Austrian leader told reporters on Sunday. The mandate will apply to all adults living in the country except when a medical exemption is granted.


Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-16/austria-to-start-fines-for-unvaccinated-in-march-nehammer-says
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Austria to start fines for unvaccinated in March, Nehammer says (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2022 OP
An Australian told me in the 90's they are fined for not voting in elections bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #1
I wouldn't support that Polybius Jan 2022 #2
"go into the voting booth and flip a coin" Pantagruel Jan 2022 #3
Statistically, the coin flips change nothing. Lucky Luciano Jan 2022 #8
True Polybius Jan 2022 #12
Lets say your a citizen with a civic duty to participate quakerboy Jan 2022 #16
I say good for Austria. LoisB Jan 2022 #4
Good! Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #5
we need to find the resolve to begin taking those steps here cadoman Jan 2022 #6
news like this makes the pukes on our supreme court all twitchy orleans Jan 2022 #7
Bravo, thanks for the news. Quebec is also starting this. appalachiablue Jan 2022 #9
Can you imagine if they imposed fines in US? Jetheels Jan 2022 #10
They would not have to bother with that. murielm99 Jan 2022 #15
What happens if someone refuses to pay the fine? n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #11
Or doesn't have the money to pay it. MichMan Jan 2022 #13
Good point n/t Yandex Jan 2022 #14

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
1. An Australian told me in the 90's they are fined for not voting in elections
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:39 AM
Jan 2022

Like $125 right on the tax return. Don't know if that policy continues. Wonder if that would work here. It's not a payment to vote, it's a penalty. Or would SCOTUS consider a tax a negative payment. Hmm.

Polybius

(15,367 posts)
2. I wouldn't support that
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jan 2022

Suppose you're 18 and hate politics? They might go into the voting booth and flip a coin.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
3. "go into the voting booth and flip a coin"
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jan 2022

which would give similar results to our current electorate, sadly.

Lucky Luciano

(11,252 posts)
8. Statistically, the coin flips change nothing.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jan 2022

However, the non coin flips that vote due to this should be significant enough to be meaningful.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
16. Lets say your a citizen with a civic duty to participate
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 06:34 AM
Jan 2022

And lets say voting doesnt require choosing an option from any given race, just showing up and signing in. Ive known a few folk who regularly voted for ficus in certain races.

cadoman

(792 posts)
6. we need to find the resolve to begin taking those steps here
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:00 PM
Jan 2022

We have solid Democratic support of it, but frankly not nearly enough to really do it. We need to be at 80% or higher support among Democrats and at least 50% of independents. There can't be any doubt among us that force is a necessary part of the solution.

Start with the basics: mandatory masking on public transport, insurance fines, bans from clubs and leagues, etc. Focus on populations with low financial resources who cannot afford to fight us in court. Turn compliance into a virtue. Once they get used to it they'll help us to enforce it on the middle and upper classes.

After we lay this humble foundation we can pursue the more aggressive steps towards 100% mandatory vaccination. Australia is the model. Use them as the example for where we need to be in six months.

orleans

(34,043 posts)
7. news like this makes the pukes on our supreme court all twitchy
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jan 2022

--they just want to run over there and STRIKE IT DOWN!

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
10. Can you imagine if they imposed fines in US?
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jan 2022

The rethudkqons would storm the Capitol and erect gallows…….

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
15. They would not have to bother with that.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:52 AM
Jan 2022

The GOP supreme court would rule the fines unconstitutional.

MichMan

(11,899 posts)
13. Or doesn't have the money to pay it.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:28 PM
Jan 2022

Do you want to be in the position of making people choose between paying the fine instead of rent ?

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