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Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:07 AM

Manchin chides Democrats over filibuster, saying he can't support 'such a perilous course'

Source: The Hill

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) warned Democrats against trying to change the legislative filibuster and lamented the state of the Senate, hours before a months-long fight over Senate rules will come to a head.

Manchin went through a laundry list of reasons explaining why he supports the 60-vote threshold for most major legislation and argued that the pitch from his Democratic colleagues about wanting to restore the Senate is "simply not true."

"For the last year, my Democratic colleagues have taken to the Senate floor, cable news airwaves, pages of newspapers across the country, and to argue that repealing the filibuster is restoring the vision the founding fathers intended for this deliberate body. My friends, that is simply not true. It's not true," Manchin said.

Manchin added that his Democratic colleagues "would use the nuclear option to override a rule that we have used ourselves, but now seem to find unacceptable."

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/590494-manchin-chides-dems-over-filibuster-saying-he-cant-support-such-a-perilous#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16426565533032&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fsenate%2F590494-manchin-chides-dems-over-filibuster-saying-he-cant-support-such-a-perilous

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Reply Manchin chides Democrats over filibuster, saying he can't support 'such a perilous course' (Original post)
Polybius Jan 2022 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #1
elleng Jan 2022 #2
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2022 #10
greatauntoftriplets Jan 2022 #3
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2022 #4
Guilded Lilly Jan 2022 #5
PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #13
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2022 #6
AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #9
AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #7
Moebym Jan 2022 #14
vercetti2021 Jan 2022 #8
SunSeeker Jan 2022 #11
PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #12
Natal Jan 2022 #15
True Blue American Jan 2022 #16
rpannier Jan 2022 #17
Botany Jan 2022 #18
angry citizen Jan 2022 #21
Botany Jan 2022 #23
pwb Jan 2022 #19
2naSalit Jan 2022 #20
Turbineguy Jan 2022 #22
yaesu Jan 2022 #24
Paladin Jan 2022 #25
Blue Owl Jan 2022 #26
Taraman Jan 2022 #27
turbinetree Jan 2022 #28
Corgigal Jan 2022 #29
BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #30
Moebym Jan 2022 #32
BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #35
The Grand Illuminist Jan 2022 #31
myohmy2 Jan 2022 #33
Zeitghost Jan 2022 #34

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:11 AM

1. If anyone has put us on 'such a perilous course'...it would be him and others like him.

I am beyond exasperated. He has a lot of power these days, he knows it, and he's making hay while the sun shines.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:12 AM

2. ;-(

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:44 AM

10. Manchin is a small man who has gotten power

for the first time in his political career. All he can do, however, is destroy things; he has contributed not a single suggestion on how to make the bill a law. In this he is more Republican than Democrat.

All he and Sinema can do is righteously declare how important voting is --even going so far as referencing MLK--and tweet pictures of themselves standing next to John Lewis (Sinema).

So many people died so others could vote; so many people marched to ensure the franchise was available to all citizens. Now, because of two intransigent senators who represent a tiny portion of the electorate, we're going to have to start the fight over.

"I can't believe I'm still having to protest this shit," said a sign held by an elderly woman. Sigh...

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:14 AM

3. Tell that to the GQPers, Senator.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:17 AM

4. At heart, he is a Republican.

Better vetting, WV.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:23 AM

5. Can we cut through the bull yet and tell Manchin to officially piss off?

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Response to Guilded Lilly (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:58 AM

13. No because nothing passes with only 49 Democratic votes. n/t

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:23 AM

6. If Manchin were a member of the Continental Congress

we'd still be a British colony. There's no way he would have signed the Declaration of Independence.

As it is, between him and T****, democracy is going to end, and we're going to become a Russian state. All hail President Putin!

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:36 AM

9. To quote the Musical 1776

"You and your Pennsylvania proprietors. You always to the rear of everything, so if the rest of us go down, you can remain afloat."

Manchin in a nutshell.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:34 AM

7. Unreal. This man is the type to punch someone, get punched back, then cry "look what you did to me"

He is a political Karen.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 03:22 AM

14. Agreed. That is one of the hallmarks of an abusive, controlling individual.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:35 AM

8. Jesus christ

Just STFU Yacht man! We know your game, we aren't fucking idiots. You are a shill, bar none. You are a corporate whore. End of story.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:55 AM

11. No, Senator, it is what YOU are saying that is not true.

The founding fathers would never have approved of the filibuster, having warned against requiring action only by supermajority.

Plus, and most important, the Republicans of today are not the Republicans of yesterday. They now realize they can't win in a fair, democratic election, so they are dismantling democracy, one crazy voter-supressing state law at a time. That is why we need to end the filibuster so we can pass a law to protect voters from these laws, or we will lose our democracy.

Yes, it is "a rule that we have used ourselves, but now seem to find unacceptable." And the reason it is unacceptable is because it will destroy our democracy! Why is that so hard for you to understand?????

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 02:56 AM

12. Anyone who wants to see his whole 17 minute presentation can see it here...


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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 05:14 AM

15. "Perilous"

 

Yeah. To your reelection, you spineless coward!

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 06:59 AM

16. That BS used to work

When we had a decent Republican Party. It is impossible today with the corrupt leaders in that party. Lie, cheat, steal to win has become their motto.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:07 AM

17. Says Joe Crow Manchin

He seems fine with non-whites having difficulty voting
What happened to your 10 Republicans you were certain you could get

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:50 AM

18. All of what Joe is just lip flapping. His two real goals are:

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Protect the status quo and that protects the fossil fuel industries. And that might make him West VA first billionaire and
that will fuck the earth's environment and Joe knows that and doesn't give a shit.

Same with Sinema and her two real goals are:

Protect the status quo and that protects the pharmaceutical industries. And that will make Sinema a multimillionaire and
she will be given high paying do nothing jobs such as to be on the board of directors for some drug maker or as a "dean"
at some right wing college and she will live out her life in really expensive real estate with 24/7 security as a pariah as
her obvious mental illnesses overtake her.

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Response to Botany (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:13 AM

21. Its always the money.

It always comes down to the money. He reminds me of Sen Nelson with the ACA.

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Response to angry citizen (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:55 AM

23. From the movie Casino

Always the dollars. Always the fuckin' dollars.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:42 AM

19. Your voters put you in office to represent Democrats

and you vote the way you want? It's By The People? Not by the person Hoe.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:45 AM

20. Only those with lots of $$

And wealthier people backing them, only the wealthy are represented in government.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:28 AM

22. One of two

of the republican party's favorite senators.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 10:12 AM

24. To be fair, here are some good & realistic points Manchin makes against the "nuclear option"

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 10:19 AM

25. Fuck you where you breathe, Manchin. (nt)

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 10:27 AM

26. Fuck him and his fucking filibuster

Twice on Sunday

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 10:35 AM

27. In the future history of the Fourth Reich, he will be remembered as one of its founders

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 11:49 AM

28. &%$#@*(%%$#@!! Joe Manhcin.....and Kyrsten Sinema

here is a comparison of Jeff Merkley's speech when compared to your ( &^%$#@!(*&^) ing Joe Manchin speech.....










And as for the hypocrite from Arizona, that just basically said FU to the Native population when it comes to voting....5 days ago.....

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 12:25 PM

29. Might be time,

to pull his financials. Heís being bought off somewhere,and hes not that good of an actor.
McConnell may have gotten to him early, before the two senators from Georgia were elected.

This man doesnít have principles, but he s a wanna be rich guy. Heís bought and sold.

Investigation please.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 12:46 PM

30. Isn't it about time we let him sink back into the swamp he came from?

Enough already, his 15 minutes of fame are up. He did what he was ordered to do. Now itís time to let him sink back into obscurity. There will be plenty of time to remind America about his hatred for Democracy when he runs for re-election.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 07:54 PM

32. I agree.

Attention feeds his ego, and he has already proven himself to be unable to feel any sort of shame from having his ridiculous arguments be torn to shreds.

We need to ignore him and focus on GOTV and fighting the smaller battles.

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Response to Moebym (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:18 PM

35. Exactly Right

Any more time spent on that corporate whore is time wasted. Time to focus on whatís ahead.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 01:12 PM

31. Again, from his predecessor

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 08:27 PM

33. what's perilous...

...is the course and trajectory we're on...we're heading headlong towards being a fascist state...

...he must not believe our democracy's in danger or our future's at risk...

...he doesn't respond to warnings...he doesn't respond to threats...he doesn't respond to cajoling... he doesn't respond to reason...he doesn't respond to friendship...he doesn't respond to the intent of our Constitution...

...what does he respond to?

...everyone will respond to something, everyone has a price...

...we have to find out what it is before it's too late...

...he's being very short-sighted or worse...

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Thu Jan 20, 2022, 09:14 PM

34. He's a brave and wise man

It takes guts to stand up for what is right and set aside the short sighted members of his party who wish to endanger the future for a gains in the present.

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