Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein arrested

[limpyhobbler]

Source: Washington Post

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein was arrested Wednesday morning in east Texas while attempting to resupply protesters camping out in trees to oppose the Keystone XL pipeline, according to anti-pipeline activists.

Opponents of the pipeline have climbed some trees in the path of the pipeline in Winnsboro, Tex., and have been there for 38 days.

Stein was taken to the Wood County jail, said Kim Huynh, a spokesman for the Tar Sands Blockade. Earlier, Stein said in a statement that “the climate is taking this election by storm, breaking the silence of the Obama and Romney campaigns that have been bought and paid for by the oil, coal and gas companies.” She added, “Hurricane Sandy is just a taste of what’s to come under the climate destroying policies of Romney and Obama.”



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/green-party-candidate-jill-stein-arrested/2012/10/31/0f309970-2373-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html

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By Steven Mufson, Wednesday, October 31, 12:24 PM

[onehandle]

1. It must be a day with a y in it. nt

[Berlum]

2. Thank you Ms. Stein

[Mojorabbit]

13. Yes, she is walking the walk. nt

[harmonicon]

39. So, you don't use oil? Fascinating. (nt)

[Berlum]

52. So, you don't know anyone slammed in the Global Warming Frankenstorm?

Fascinating.

[harmonicon]

54. This relates how? (nt)

[SoapBox]

3. I saw an interview with Dr. Stein

last week? I don't remember which show but must have been on MSNBC or Current TV.

I was, impressed.

She was very well spoken...was calm...and had some very good stuff to say. Personally, I agreed with all she said.

And then leave it to Texas to arrest her for trying to give stuff to the folks camping out.

Free speech anyone?

[marlakay]

4. I know a couple voting for her

at least its WA state so won't hurt Obama. Until they change which they won't how we vote third parties won't happen.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Bravo to her for standing up to the establishment and those who pay for it.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

9. Excuse me?

You live in Ohio....and are not voting for Obama?

Delete this post now.

[NoOneMan]

12. Cardinal Fang! Fetch... the Comfy Chair!

[emulatorloo]

10. Ohio is not "safe." Repubs will try to cheat, need to be overwhelmed w Dem votes.

No swing state is safe.

[Ash_F]

11. Prepare for the dogpile /nt

[Divine Discontent]

7. thank you, Ms Stein! n/t

[NoOneMan]

8. I probably would of bought her schtick in a former life

The problem is that she is promising the sun, moon and stars:
http://www.jillstein.org/summary_green_new_deal

I don't think that is physically possible. This is a science issue. I need to see the numbers that says we can do all this wonderful stuff. I think she still has a 20th century worldview as far as our finite world is concerned.

Honestly, any politician who cannot foresee or convey an inevitable productivity & wealth decline is not to be trusted (not equivilent of being untrustworthy). The key now is finding people who can manage this decline with vision, or otherwise, it will be a chaotic mess.

[magical thyme]

15. agreed. nt

[bvar22]

14. Kudos to Jill Stein and the Green Party.

Rural Texas locals are also a part of this group.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/us/protesters-gather-at-keystone-xl-site-in-texas.html?_r=0



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[treestar]

16. Good for her and she does not seem to be crying about

having to go to jail for it.

[harmonicon]

40. Oh, come on. She was arrested on purpose to gain publicity for her campaign.

That's some low, self-serving shit right there. Can't get people to pay attention? Find another way to get attention.

[antigone382]

49. At least she was trying to get some attention to climate change.

I am voting for Obama and advise everyone to do the same. But knowing of our failure at Copenhagen, watching the debates where climate change was not mentioned, followed by the onslaught of Sandy...just one more extreme weather event with likely links to climate change, makes me glad that she is around to put a little pressure on at least the left side of our political establishment to acknowledge that this thing exists, and that it is a BIG problem.

I can't fault anyone running for office and making the climate a major campaign issue, because as much as I believe Obama is the best option, and as much as I understand the political calculations that add up to not bringing this up as a central campaign issue, I'm glad someone is doing it!

[harmonicon]

53. I think she was more interested in getting attention for herself. (nt)

[antigone382]

62. Well if the one results in the other I'll take it. n/t

[MattSh]

82. Well, good for you. n/t

[Ash_F]

94. Rosa Parks? /nt

[harmonicon]

96. Cognitive dissonance? (nt)

[Ash_F]

97. It's ok to admit what you said was silly.

There is nothing wrong with facing arrest in order to stand up for the right thing.

[harmonicon]

99. Is getting press for a presidential candidacy "the right thing"?

Is that something to get arrested for?

[Ash_F]

103. I'm pretty sure it's about the pipeline.

and I'd rather take her word on it than random-keyboard-critic.

[harmonicon]

106. And Paul Ryan really just wanted to help out at a homeless shelter. (nt)

[Ash_F]

112. Jill Stein = Paul Ryan

Got it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. Not a good sign when the only time you hear a presidential "candidate's" name, the word arrest.....

soon follows. What a joke!

[Ken Burch]

20. It's an arrest for standing up for something.

I'm voting for Obama but we both know he'd never show this kind of guts-and neither would anybody else you'd ever support for president.

You can't make any real change in this country while staying within the law. Only rebellion works.

[Tarheel_Dem]

22. It's an arrest for publicity. And you can take your pseudo wannabe anarchy and vote for whomever...

you choose. I'll support the DEMOCRAT, especially on DEMOCRATIC Underground. Jill has the same problem as Romney, she's found herself out of the news cycle (big surprise), and flinging poo at passers by to get a mention. If all else fails, get arrested. It's an old tactic, and quite INeffective these days. It's weird, and it's pathetic, and so is she.

Hey Jill, the 60's called, and they want their tie dyed Grateful Dead tee shirt, and talking points back.

[limpyhobbler]

38. ^^^^ The Grateful Dead ????? ^^^^^

"Hey Jill, the 60's called, and they want their tie dyed Grateful Dead tee shirt, and talking points back. "

At least you didn't say she (Dr. Stein) needs to take a shower.

Not sure what you have against the grateful dead either.

Not sure why you think climate change is a 1960's talking point. That makes no sense.

[Tarheel_Dem]

77. If this fawning shit had been posted about Romney, it would've been shut down....

immediately, and rightly so. You're not as slick as you think. After 2000, no TRUE DEMOCRAT wants anything to do with the Green Party. Their wild eyed idealism, and look-at-me zealotry has caused so many problems for, not just this country, but for the entire world. I will never forgive them for that, and I'm not alone. They inflicted Bush/Cheney on the world, and all their post-partem justifications and deflections aside, they owe the world a huge apology.

Fuck the Green Party, and anyone associated with it. The good news is that they're probably even less popular with Democrats than they are with Republicans. Most of us realize that she's Ralph Nader with a better haircut and sensible shoes.

[limpyhobbler]

78. Why support tar sands oil, which will cause more global warming? That's a bad choice.

Why mock climate change?:

"Hey Jill, the 60's called, and they want their tie dyed Grateful Dead tee shirt, and talking points back. "

Using climate change as a punchline, just like Mitt Romney did in his convention speech.


You speak for yourself and not the Democratic Party, and thank goodness for that.

Clearly you are very concerned about Jill Stein, because more than half the posts in this thread (40 out of 77) are your emotional outbursts, mocking climate change, and getting gross with puke emoticons.

A much more rational response would be: "Hmm... maybe we should start staking these issues more seriously".

Most of us realize the tar sands pipeline is a bad idea.

[Tarheel_Dem]

79. If, as you seem to imply, Greens ideas are so popular, why aren't they?

There's good reason for that. No one is making light of climate change, just the clowns who happen to be the face of a very serious issue. Until people like Stein go away, this issue won't get the attention it so richly deserves.

You guys seem to think it's impossible to separate the issue of climate change from assholes like Stein and Nader, I don't have that problem. And, apparently, neither do the American people, if the polls are any indication.

[Ken Burch]

98. Why would you condemn idealism?

If all we had were "realism" and "pragmatism", nothing positive would ever happen, because "realism" and "pragmatism" ALWAYS lead to nothing but cold-blooded, right-wing outcomes. Pragmatism is the same thing as surrender.

The only worthwhile change is the kind that is condemned as "unrealistic". The kinds of change that are easily achievable aren't really ever worth achieving...just as small, incremental change(which is always unnoticeable and therefore meaningless)doesn't actually mean anything.

If your mindset had been in charge of the Civil Rights movement, we'd be told that it was enough that say, there were equal rights on Tuesdays and Thursdays, holidays excepted(and Dixie excepted). And we'd still BE in Vietnam.

[Ken Burch]

65. You don't have her to attack her on this to support Obama

I support Obama too. This thread has nothing to do with the campaign and it can't possibly make any difference in the election results.

[Union Scribe]

69. You're putting in an ugly appearance in this thread.

I hope you don't talk like this to voters.

[Tarheel_Dem]

73. I don't talk to Green voters, or at least I hope not. I'm very discriminating.

[kurtzapril4]

108. Discriminating being the operative word. eom

[Tarheel_Dem]

113. I share nothing in common with Greens and Republicans. They're both.....

anti-Democrat, and I treat them with equal disdain. I don't want to accomodate them like the Repubs did with the teabaggers. If that happens, the entire country really will descend into all out ideological warfare, and the rest of us will suffer for it.

It's okay to have ideals, but Greens & teabaggers seem to have an aversion to pragmatism, which only serves gridlock. Left to their own devices, they're all like a bunch of tantrum throwing toddlers, embroiled in a playground fight, with no adult supervision. Democrats have, and always will be the adults in the room.

As Michael Moore said to Ralph Nader in '04, "go away Ralph, we can't afford you now". That message still holds true today.

[broiles]

18. My granddaughter texted that she (granddaughter) just got

Jill Stein out of jail. She says everyone there is so excited that the protest is finally getting some notice.

[limpyhobbler]

109. Anyone helping with that blockade is just awesome.

Good for your granddaughter if she's helping with it. I think it's something to be very proud of.

[Ken Burch]

19. Whatever you might think of her party or her campaign

you have to admire Dr. Stein's courage in doing this.

Nobody our party would ever be allowed to nominate for president would ever show anything like this kind of commitment to any cause.

[harmonicon]

41. Her courage to do anything for publicity, including getting arrested?

I don't think it's courageous. I think it's despicable.

[Ken Burch]

64. despicable? why?

She didn't do it for the publicity, she did it because it's the right thing to do. It's not like this was going to cost Obama the election, for God's sake.

She's just standing up for what she believes in. It's not as if she could have done that any other way.

[harmonicon]

70. Oh, bullshit.

You honestly think she didn't do this purely for publicity? If your logic is that since she wasn't going to cost Obama the election - and she wouldn't, no matter what - why would she want any publicity for her campaign at all?

I do agree that she's standing up for what she believes in - crass narcissism.

[eridani]

75. What's wrong with publicity?

Or is the only valid sort the kind that costs hundreds of millions of dollars?

[harmonicon]

84. Getting arrested for publicity?

What's wrong with that? You're seriously asking?

I know that there is an adorable world out there for some people where one can get arrested and have it not completely fuck up their life, but for most people, that's as foreign as being a multi-millionaire.

[eridani]

85. So? She has time but not money

Therefore getting publicity for the tar sands issue is one of many possible good ways to use that time. True, most people aren't in that situation. So?

[harmonicon]

86. Publicity for the tar sands issue? That's not what she's doing AT ALL.

She's using that as an excuse to get publicity for her pathetic political campaign.

As for the "so?":

So, this is just another politician getting publicity by doing something which the vast majority of the population can relate to in no way, and some - myself, at least, and more, I suspect - find kind of insulting.

[eridani]

105. Or she's using her campaign to get publicity for the issues she cares about

I think quite a few people can relate to the danger of climate change after Sandy.

[Ken Burch]

88. Look, I don't support her campaign, but unlike you

I can recognize it when somebody who's running for office does the right thing even if they aren't the people I'm supporting. Would you have said that JFK was just seeking publicity when he called for Dr. King to be released from jail during the fall campaign?

How is this different from that?

We don't have to automatically denounce everything the people on the Green ticket do, simply because they ARE the Green ticket. Sometimes, they actually can be doing something just because it's the right thing to do, just like anybody else can.

Your spite and contempt are completely misdirected here. The only people we should be attacking at this stage of the campaign are the Republiban. It's not worth it to bash anybody ELSE at this point.

[harmonicon]

89. I think you're misreading me here.

JFK had plenty of publicity in his presidential campaign - he didn't have to get arrested for the media to pay attention to his campaign. That's ALL that's going on here. Look, it worked - it started a discussion on a pro-Democratic website where people sing the praises of the Green candidate. That is all she was doing. It's crass political maneuvering, and I'm not going to fall for it.

I don't denigrate her actions because she's a Green, I denigrate her actions because they're crass political theater carried out by someone who's in a position to do such a thing. This is a "rich people are adorable" moment no different than Paul Ryan fake washing dishes or Mitt Romney fake receiving relief supplies. I don't think that's doing the right thing.

[Ken Burch]

90. As far as I know, she's NOT rich.

And since this can't possibly make a difference in the election(NOBODY is voting Green, in case you hadn't noticed) why are you so fixated with being in attack mode?

Only the Right is the enemy. The Greens don't matter this time.

This thread is not a campaign thread for Stein...it really IS just an acknowledgment that a person did a good thing. That's ALL it is. Chill.

[harmonicon]

92. I don't see the right as an enemy, and I definitely don't see the Greens as an enemy.

I can understand that there are divergent political viewpoints. I actually do want a representative democracy where everyone has a say. I know that's going to wind up including some right wing folks, and that's fine with me. We don't have a parliamentary system, and should stop acting as if we did.

What I do see as the enemy to this representative democracy is the level of campaigning, the length of campaigns, and how everything a candidate does becomes a part of their campaign - consciously.

Falling for Stein's bullshit is no different than falling for Romney's bullshit. Would you really say that Romney recasting a political rally as a disaster relief effort was him doing the right thing? Do you not see that it's just a crass attempt to appear to be doing the right thing? I guess we could give Stein the credit to make that crass plan from the beginning, but it's still a load of political bullshit.

[argiel1234]

21. There will surely be those

who will attempt to discredit and mock her for standing up and doing the right thing.


Bravo for her for standing up to the greed of the energy companies

[Tarheel_Dem]

23. Count me among the "mockers".

[argiel1234]

25. Ok then

I guess you disagree with her message as well, correct?

[Tarheel_Dem]

27. Her message doesn't matter. She's a lying sack of dog doo doo. I heard one interview.

She's dishonest, and a Nader type shill for the GOP. Remember where you heard that. I despise Greens, and all their bullshit. Two wars could've been avoided, and the twin towers might still be standing, if it weren't these POS's.

[argiel1234]

31. The right wing despises Greens as well

They call them all kinds of names and blame them, just as you have.

You are aware of that aren't you?




Oh and the Supreme court selected Bush. I don't think anyone has forgotten as you seem to try with revisionist history.

Wont work

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. I'm fully aware, which only means they are universally despised. I just hate 'em for a different

reason. Oh, and it already worked. This is the reason Jill has to get arrested every week. DEMOCRATS haven't forgotten 2000, which is why enthusiasm for Greens among Dems, is almost nonexistent.

And speaking of the "right wing", they supported Nader in every imaginable way, except voting for him. I'm sure they've assisted the good doctor as well, but they won't get their money's worth this time. Nader was a much better investment.

"Fool us once".......(well, you know the rest).

[argiel1234]

36. look

I will be gladly voting for Obama this year over Mittasswipe, but you should not discount her message

Her message is what matters.

[Tarheel_Dem]

71. If, as you say, "her message is what matters", why didn't she primary the president?

[creeksneakers2]

43. This could be a very close election

Green votes could make the difference again. Of course, they don't care about results, only pretending they are saviors.

[argiel1234]

44. please

I have not heard any news or information from anybody about the Greens this election

What will make the difference is electronic voting, unfortunately, which neither party talks about

Lets hope the 1% doesn't allow Mittfuckface to "win"

[creeksneakers2]

46. here

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/third-party-naderize-obama_b_2034364.html

[argiel1234]

48. why dont you post the problems with

voter suppression and intimidation

I would think they have much more powerful effects on the race

[creeksneakers2]

56. I do, but not on this thread

They are off the subject of the Greens.

[argiel1234]

57. are you afraid of posting about electronic voting

what is off subject about the stealing of elections by electronic voting?

have you read bradblog?

[creeksneakers2]

58. Because I'm sick of Greens

pointing fingers when they are asked to account for their own actions. Why are you calling me afraid? Is that poster intimidation?

[argiel1234]

59. no. are you afraid?

is asking questions intimidation to you?

are you that fragile?

[limpyhobbler]

50. Why not just adjust policies a little bit to incorporate some of the Green/left ideas into

the Democratic party candidates? That way less people would feel a need to vote third party.

For example stop supporting the tar sands oil. Seems like a win/win to me. The oil companies always back Republicans anyway.

[fujiyama]

67. These people are clowns and idiots

At this point, they're not to be taken seriously. If anyone still cannot be convinced of the difference between the parties, they are hopeless.

Stein will get less than 1% of the national popular vote at most. Gary Johnson will do better than her.

Stunts like getting arrested are fine for publicity or building a cause. It's not really convincing anyone she has any skills or ideas in governing a nation.

[eridani]

76. Attention to tar sands and climate change is a very worthy cause IMO n/t

[wordpix]

101. the Greens exist b/c Dems are getting corporate funding and won't stand against nukes

IMO, Greens and Dems should form a coalition gov before letting R$ take over

[wordpix]

102. You're right - Greens and Dems should form a coalition gov if R$ wins otherwise.

[argiel1234]

32. "Her message doesn't matter.'

says everything I need to know about you.

Thanks

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. Glad we cleared that up.

GOP for Stein 2012!, but only in OH & FL.

[argiel1234]

37. The green party is non existent in terms of this race

and wont be a factor in 2012, but you seem adamant in linking the GOP with Greens in general

I wonder why that is?

[creeksneakers2]

45. They poll about 1%

Nationally ABC has the race at 49%/49%. Bush won by only 500 votes. The Greens could easily make the difference in this election. What's more, if Obama could have won with them but loses without them, the Greens will love it. Sick!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/third-party-naderize-obama_b_2034364.html

[limpyhobbler]

51. So why support tar sands?

It's totally predictable that a small percentage will walk over something like that.

If you're concerned about this problem of third party voting, please find a way to incorporate the the Green Party views into Democratic Party to solve the problem.

[creeksneakers2]

55. If the Greens had a popular agenda

why are they only at 1%? If Dems adopted the Green agenda, they'd be at 1% too.

[limpyhobbler]

60. It seems popular to me.

Maybe you can post a DU poll sometime on their policies?

Let me know how it turns out.

[Tarheel_Dem]

72. Because Greens have a history of working well with the GOP. Remember 2000?

Fuck the Greens!

[Ken Burch]

66. How is she dishonest? What, exactly has she lied about?

She hasn't bashed Obama...and she hasn't said there's no difference between Obama and Romney.

It's not as if we Obama supporters HAVE to be implacably hostile to Jill Stein about every single thing she does. Grow up. The Greens aren't going to have any meaningful effect on the election.

[Tarheel_Dem]

74. The one and onl interview I heard with Ms. Stein was on NPR. Search around their.....

archives, and you'll eat these words:

"She hasn't bashed Obama...and she hasn't said there's no difference between Obama and Romney".

As far as growing up, you and the Greens should take your own advice.

[grahamhgreen]

68. Are you insane? If we'd gotten off of oil, none of that stuff, or even Sandy, would have happened.

Instead, we've got DLC losers pushing fracking, nukes, tar sands and the basic destruction of the planet.

[Comrade Grumpy]

26. The Ugly Democrat rears its head. Mocking and sneering is so classy.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. Fuck Greens, and their joke of a "presidential" candidate.

[Comrade Grumpy]

29. Yeah, whatever. Stay classy.

[Tarheel_Dem]

33. You too. Shouldn't this shit be posted over at Green Underground? Oh wait....

Jill Stein gets the same treatment from me as any other "candidate" opposing the Democratic candidate. This is not you guys playground, unless the rules have changed.

Vote for Democrats.

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[davidthegnome]

63. Really?

I'd like to see any actual evidence to back your assumption that Stein is being supported by the GOP - or that she would welcome or take advantage of such support. Nader may very well have taken GOP money - but we are not talking about Nader right now.

Your insults directed at Greens are really not necessary. You want to dislike them? Fine, fair enough - but they aren't conservative republicans. They aren't the enemy and your contempt and condescension helps our cause no more than Nader ever did.

"Hey Jill, the 60's called, and they want their tie dyed Grateful Dead tee shirt, and talking points back."

Now what does this remind me of? Oh yes, conservatives mocking liberals, calling us hippy idiots and whatnot.

Now maybe you don't care about that. Maybe you don't want the greens to support the democrats (and a lot of them do with various policies) and maybe you have your own reasons for despising them. Well, you can think and say whatever you please - but don't be surprised if this sort of attitude fails to influence anyone positively or attract support to your ideas. Most likely, what you will earn with your raging contempt is raging contempt in return.

Personally, I like greens a great deal. I love their support for the environment (generally speaking) and I think that the democratic party is big enough to include them and that we should make more of an effort to make common cause.

I admire Stein's courage and applaud her for talking about something that matters - something that matters a whole hell of a lot more than most of what our politicians talk about. I may be voting for Obama, but that doesn't give me any reason to dislike or have contempt for Stein. I may not support her Presidential campaign, but I whole-heartedly support her efforts in regards to the environment.

[marmar]

81. "I'd like to see any actual evidence to back your assumption...."

Don't hold your breath. Just expect more shrill fact-free shouting, unfounded accusations about Stein and the use of the word "fuck" a lot.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

30. How about a Democrat who doesn't respect the idea....

....that "Bush was better for us than Obama, because it gave us a clear enemy to fight against". That's what she told Sam Stein. I assume she feels the same way about Rmoney in this case.

I also don't appreciate the racist dog whistle of Obama being "an articulate, mesmerizing, hypnotic speaker".

Fuck Jill Stein. She is a useful tool to the right. There was already one poster in this thread who stated they would vote for her IN OHIO. Get a few thousand more like that, and hello President Rmoney. You want that?

[Comrade_McKenzie]

24. I thank her for her activism, but she can do that without acting as a vote trash can. nt

[Hydra]

42. Wow, some nice chime in's on this thread

If this is the continuing trajectory of our Party...it's gonna either be a really small crowd or a disturbingly large one as we go forward. Party over values? Really?

[OnyxCollie]

61. Anyone running who isn't Obama is the ENEMY.

Simple solutions for simple people.

Of course when both parties are subservient to corporate interests, nothing really changes much, except there's a check in the "WIN" column for "our side."

Whoo hoo! Fired up for 2012! Yeah!

[Le Taz Hot]

80. Good for Dr. Stein

And considering the battering the East Coast just got, I think that it's about time the topic of Climate Change come to the forefront. She's following her convictions and putting her money where her mouth is and I applaud her for that.

The character assassination going on upthread about her is appalling. But then again, that is partisan politics: "Yer either fer us or agin us." All that does is further polarize the country and make the Democrats' tent MUCH smaller.

[Arkana]

83. She seems to have more stones than Ralph Nader at least. I'll give her that.

[harmonicon]

87. Care to elaborate? Ralph Nader's done a hell of a lot for the public for very little thanks. (nt)

[Hotler]

91. Look everybody a Ralph Nader post. Dog pile on Ralph.....

It's so easy to sit behind the computer and bitch and point fingers. It takes guts and a spine to take to the streets to fight for what is right and to protest.

[AnOhioan]

93. Sad how some on here feel the need to act like childeren....

by calling Dr. Stein names and making wildly inaccurate statements instead of just acknowledging that she is out there trying to make a difference, as opposed to the keyboard warriors who have nothing better to do than make snide remarks.

Kudos to her for doing what she is doing.

[Ash_F]

95. Well said.

DU is not the progressive voice it was ten years ago. Makes me sad.

[Le Taz Hot]

100. Most of the progressive voices have been

purged or voluntarily left in disgust. I've somehow managed to survive -- I don't know how. What we're left with is blind partisans DEMANDING PARTY LOYALTY NO MATTER WHAT!!!111!!!! It's too bad because it lowers the level of discourse -- as can be seen in this very thread.

[Ash_F]

104. It's a shame because this story isn't even about her candidacy. /nt

[kurtzapril4]

110. I agree, Le Taz.

OBama has my vote. I am voting for OBama.

But after Tuesday....I'm holding him to the same damn standard I'd hold any president.

[woo me with science]

107. It's the same predictable garbage

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from the same small, predictable group that attempts to trash ANY criticism of the corporate, right-wing, and neocon stranglehold on our government these days. You will note that traditional Democrats who aren't perpetually shilling and rationalizing right-wing policy express admiration for Stein's activism and truth-telling.

For those who work every day to turn the Democratic Party into a Third Way version of the corporate right-wing, however, it is an important part of the job to attack ANY genuine liberal, because genuine liberals remind people of how far the corporate faction of our party has dragged us from where we should be, and they threaten to incite Democrats to speak out and demand better from our own representatives.

[CrawlingChaos]

111. Agreed, it's truly disgusting

You'd THINK in a week where we're confronted with the inestimable suffering wrought by climate change - and just a taste of things to come really - you'd think these people wouldn't have the stomach to mock those taking action to pressure politicians to act meaningfully on this issue - but NO, they have no problem with it. Never ceases to amaze me, although it shouldn't at the point.

[Ash_F]

115. You can't win by out-republicaning the republicans /nt

[woo me with science]

116. Kick