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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:58 PM Jan 2022

Majority wants Biden to consider 'all possible nominees' for SCOTUS: POLL

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: ABC News

A new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds that a plurality of Americans view the Supreme Court as motivated by partisanship, while President Joe Biden's campaign trail vow to select a Black woman to fill a high-court vacancy without reviewing all potential candidates evokes a sharply negative reaction from voters.

The ABC News/Ipsos poll, which was conducted by Ipsos in partnership with ABC News using Ipsos' KnowledgePanel, comes days after the most senior member of the Supreme Court, Justice Stephen G. Breyer, announced his retirement at the end of the current term. Breyer's announcement provides Biden the opportunity to change the demographic makeup of the conservative-leaning bench.

During the spring 2020 presidential primaries, days before his set of big wins on Super Tuesday, Biden pledged to nominate the first Black woman to the Supreme Court, if elected. Now, with the chance to do so, just over three-quarters of Americans (76%) want Biden to consider "all possible nominees." Just 23% want him to automatically follow through on his history-making commitment that the White House seems keen on seeing through. At a ceremony honoring the retiring justice, Biden told reporters he is able to honor his promise without compromising on quality.

"The person I will nominate will be someone with extraordinary qualifications, character, experience and integrity. And that person will be the first Black woman ever nominated to the United States Supreme Court," Biden said. "It's long overdue in my view. I made that commitment during the campaign for president, and I will keep that commitment."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/majority-americans-biden-nominees-supreme-court-vacancy-poll/story?id=82553398

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Majority wants Biden to consider 'all possible nominees' for SCOTUS: POLL (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 OP
disgusting. mopinko Jan 2022 #1
How do they filter for racism? BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #2
"Saint Ronny" promised a woman nominee Pantagruel Jan 2022 #3
And Trump said a woman would replace Ginsburg. Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #15
Precisely. Moebym Jan 2022 #28
This "consider all" is Flying Repuke monkey-wrench. Ignore it. The ones who NCjack Jan 2022 #32
Fine with Biden's committment. Hope he gets someone who doesn't coddle gunners too. Hoyt Jan 2022 #4
Me too. As an old white guy, I trust a black female Justice to defend everyone's NCjack Jan 2022 #31
Giving S&M the perfect out durablend Jan 2022 #5
I guess I'm not with the majority. It is past time for a qualified black woman to be on the court. BoomaofBandM Jan 2022 #6
Can you imagine the backlash if he doesn't do it? COL Mustard Jan 2022 #8
I'm with you. Moebym Jan 2022 #30
Fine tell them you're considering all then select the one you were going to anyway Fullduplexxx Jan 2022 #7
Exactly! Rebl2 Jan 2022 #9
Like Trump and Mitch did for Amy Coney Barret, amiright? bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #10
Bingo!! onetexan Jan 2022 #35
There are at least 4 distinguished jurists Deep State Witch Jan 2022 #11
I suspect majority also wants Biden to keep his promises. One does not cancel the other out. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #12
Does Anyone Really Think That George H. W. Bush Looked At DallasNE Jan 2022 #13
Thomas had not just the thinnest but the most sleazy SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #17
Honestly, I wish Joe hadn't telegraphed his intentions Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #14
Gotta agree there. nt Nay Jan 2022 #19
Honestly? Moebym Jan 2022 #23
Yeah. That's what I said. Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #29
Listening to BIN on the radio the other day, suggested Biden just choose w/out the fanfare SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #16
Please, as if Biden was NOT going to consider qualifications when choosing his nominee Moebym Jan 2022 #26
It wasn't a case of right or wrong SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #33
Where were these folks to demand tfg consider all candidates. n/t iluvtennis Jan 2022 #18
Oh, FFS - Moebym Jan 2022 #20
The MSM trying to discredit Biden and the choices he's made...Imagine... Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #21
I want all qualified people to be considered Marthe48 Jan 2022 #22
Who cares what Traildogbob Jan 2022 #24
REALLY? Did "the majority" want ALL nominees considered when only white males were eligible? CousinIT Jan 2022 #25
Let put this ABC article in perspective and IPOS and that BS poll... turbinetree Jan 2022 #27
completely agree! SouthernDem4ever Jan 2022 #34
random national sample of 510 adults. rogue emissary Jan 2022 #36
Locking JudyM Jan 2022 #37

mopinko

(70,268 posts)
1. disgusting.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jan 2022

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
2. How do they filter for racism?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jan 2022

Seriously…

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
3. "Saint Ronny" promised a woman nominee
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jan 2022

while campaigning and delivered Sanda Day O'Connor. How is that different?

Lonestarblue

(10,106 posts)
15. And Trump said a woman would replace Ginsburg.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jan 2022

Republicans said nothing. Hypocrites all.

Moebym

(989 posts)
28. Precisely.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:00 PM
Jan 2022

Biden promises to choose a Black woman and all of a sudden, he needs to consider everyone?

And the fact that members of his own party are of the opinion that it was a mistake for him to project his intentions because it might make the media and the GOP upset...why should we concern ourselves with how they'd react? Let them say what they want and show everyone who they truly are.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
32. This "consider all" is Flying Repuke monkey-wrench. Ignore it. The ones who
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jan 2022

will remember it at the polls would never vote for a DEM.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Fine with Biden's committment. Hope he gets someone who doesn't coddle gunners too.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jan 2022

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
31. Me too. As an old white guy, I trust a black female Justice to defend everyone's
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:44 PM
Jan 2022

rights to justice and to vote. We certainly need a stand-up black woman to face down Amy -- let's not let Amy get comfortable in her hack role.

durablend

(7,465 posts)
5. Giving S&M the perfect out
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jan 2022

"Biden not listening to the voters!"

BoomaofBandM

(1,773 posts)
6. I guess I'm not with the majority. It is past time for a qualified black woman to be on the court.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jan 2022

And once again, using their own poll as the source. The reason I don't watch news anymore.

COL Mustard

(5,936 posts)
8. Can you imagine the backlash if he doesn't do it?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jan 2022

Clyburn would feel betrayed and so would a whole constituency, and rightly so!

Moebym

(989 posts)
30. I'm with you.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jan 2022

Black women have been the Democrats' most loyal voting bloc.

In terms of qualifications, there is a broad and deep pool of Black female talent from which to choose. Anyone making this into a controversy is showing the world what they believe, that Black women are not worthy of holding that position.

Fullduplexxx

(7,872 posts)
7. Fine tell them you're considering all then select the one you were going to anyway
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jan 2022

Funny how the polls always seem to reflect what the right wants

Rebl2

(13,575 posts)
9. Exactly!
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

bucolic_frolic

(43,364 posts)
10. Like Trump and Mitch did for Amy Coney Barret, amiright?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jan 2022

onetexan

(13,071 posts)
35. Bingo!!
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 04:12 PM
Jan 2022

Deep State Witch

(10,465 posts)
11. There are at least 4 distinguished jurists
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jan 2022

Who are Black women and highly qualified. Why pretend otherwise? It's not like Amy Coney Handmaid was qualified. Or Rapey McBeerface.

Beastly Boy

(9,505 posts)
12. I suspect majority also wants Biden to keep his promises. One does not cancel the other out.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jan 2022

Biden should consider all possible nominees and weigh his final decision with the promise he made previously to appoint a woman of color. Works for me!

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
13. Does Anyone Really Think That George H. W. Bush Looked At
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jan 2022

"All possible nominees" when he selected Clarence Thomas? Thomas probably had the thinnest resume of any Justice not named Carswell that has been nominated in my lifetime. On the other hand, here is what a solid resume looks like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leondra_Kruger

There are others just as solid but for sure Kruger has a superior resume to Amy B/C,

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
17. Thomas had not just the thinnest but the most sleazy
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jan 2022

and he's still a sleazebag. Well, with the exception of Brett Kavanaugh.

Mr. Ected

(9,672 posts)
14. Honestly, I wish Joe hadn't telegraphed his intentions
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jan 2022

It opened him up to this ridiculous non-starter of media and Republican abuse.

Best should have just nominated the person or persons he wanted on the court and all of them happen to be black women. That would have disallowed this kind of banter at the time of the hearings as well.

Oh well. Can't undo it now.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
19. Gotta agree there. nt
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jan 2022

Moebym

(989 posts)
23. Honestly?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jan 2022

So instead of being bold like so many Democrats expect him to be and daring the media and GOP to come out and show the country who they truly are, the President ought to only say things that should not provoke the racists or cause a nontroversy?




Mr. Ected

(9,672 posts)
29. Yeah. That's what I said.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:02 PM
Jan 2022

Not saying Joe can't fight back against the rhetoric, just sayin' it wasn't necessary.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
16. Listening to BIN on the radio the other day, suggested Biden just choose w/out the fanfare
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I think it was Roland Martin who suggested Biden should just chose a candidate without all the "black woman hype". Well, this stupid poll, which wasn't even necessary to conduct, proves his point. By making it about race, it discounts the candidate's deserved qualifications. In Fla, we had the reverse situation. The new nominee for Fla Surgeon General was all about race and obviously didn't check his ethics.

Moebym

(989 posts)
26. Please, as if Biden was NOT going to consider qualifications when choosing his nominee
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jan 2022

Make no mistake - the people who have subtly or not-so-subtly suggested that Black female judges are somehow inherently inferior to other candidates in education and experience are in the wrong here, not the president.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
33. It wasn't a case of right or wrong
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 04:03 PM
Jan 2022

just a matter of style. The poll doesn't say someone isn't qualified, they are just looking for an excuse to bitch about anything that appears to be biased - unless of course it would have been a republican president making the choice.

iluvtennis

(19,882 posts)
18. Where were these folks to demand tfg consider all candidates. n/t
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jan 2022

Moebym

(989 posts)
20. Oh, FFS -
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

Now we have some Democrats agreeing with Biden critics that he never should have telegraphed his intent to pick a Black woman because of the uproar he should have known it'd cause?

Excuse me, but whose fault is it, exactly, that there's a "controversy" in the first place? Not Biden's - it's the fault of the people who have subtly or not-so-subtly expressed their belief that Black women are "lesser" and that by limiting his options to that demographic, he's practicing Affirmative Action.

Save your ire for those people, will you?

Ford_Prefect

(7,925 posts)
21. The MSM trying to discredit Biden and the choices he's made...Imagine...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

You'd think they had an agenda, yes?

Marthe48

(17,047 posts)
22. I want all qualified people to be considered
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jan 2022

I am searching for a way to say this that doesn't sound exclusive. I think that people of color and women in particular, have been ignored for most positions typically held by white men. I think there was a lift in the curtain for a very short time in the mid-70s, but the curtain wasn't pulled aside and it dropped right back in place.

When the news about Jusitce Breyer aired last week, I thought 'great, another fight.' Then I realized that I might have to defend a progressive choice once in awhile, because I believe that the outcome makes us a better county. Then I realized that for people of color, there is a struggle every single day. From being chosen for a crap job to being acknowleged as a leader in your field. I'm left thinking that we are living for a day when all qualified candidates are considered, without race or ethnic background being a deal breaker, because their abilities qualify them for consideration of a job at hand. I hope this particular fight leads to more people being woke and I hope that this fight results in a black woman judge sitting on the bench of The Supreme Court of the United States.

Traildogbob

(8,833 posts)
24. Who cares what
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:38 PM
Jan 2022

The majority of Americans want. When was the last time “that” ever meant a damn thing to Politicians and media.

CousinIT

(9,264 posts)
25. REALLY? Did "the majority" want ALL nominees considered when only white males were eligible?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jan 2022

Nobody groused about that. Nobody groused when Trump and Reagan said they would nominate females.

What's different this time?

Oh yea.

BLACK.

There it is.

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
27. Let put this ABC article in perspective and IPOS and that BS poll...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:56 PM
Jan 2022

"Whoever" Biden nominates to the bench will be more qualified than the last 6 right wing justices put on the bench, they are card carrying members of the federalist society........the last 6 right wing hypocrites are tearing this country apart....instead of using that specious plurality word, you should have said that Biden won by 7 million more votes that is a majority...and then when you read the rest of the article it is a insult to the intelligence of the majority that put Biden into office.....what did that flaming traitor do for 4 years and what is the platform of the Moscow Mitch crowd..... they don't have one, except over throwing a duly elected government, and whining .....and the 147 critters in the right wing party in the house are doing what.....they wanted and still want to throw out the majorities vote......and all you are doing is helping with that right wing BS agenda ..........

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
34. completely agree!
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 04:09 PM
Jan 2022

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
36. random national sample of 510 adults.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 04:15 PM
Jan 2022

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
37. Locking
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jan 2022

The consensus of the forum hosts is that a poll of 510 people doesn’t meet the importance standard for LBN. Please repost in General Discussion.

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