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question everything

(47,444 posts)
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:26 PM Jan 2022

Some Trump White House records handed over to January 6 committee had been ripped up

Source: CNN

Some Trump White House documents that have been handed over to the House select committee investigating January 6 had to be taped back together by National Archives staff because they had been ripped up, the agency said in a statement. The Archives, in response to questions from CNN, said that "some of the Trump presidential records received by the National Archives and Records Administration included paper records that had been torn up by former President Trump."

The agency did not explain how officials know former President Donald Trump himself ripped up the records, but the Archives pointed to previous reporting that White House records management staff had to tape together torn-up documents during the Trump-era.

"These were turned over to the National Archives at the end of the Trump Administration, along with a number of torn-up records that had not been reconstructed by the White House," the Archives said in the statement. "The Presidential Records Act requires that all records created by presidents be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administrations."

The Archives pointed to media reports dating back to 2018. That's when Politico reported that the White House employed staff whose jobs partly entailed reconstructing White House communications and documents that crossed Trump's desk that he would tear up. A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A spokesperson for the select committee declined to comment.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/31/politics/trump-torn-documents/index.html

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Some Trump White House records handed over to January 6 committee had been ripped up (Original Post) question everything Jan 2022 OP
Can we charge Trump with trying to destroy federal documents? sakabatou Jan 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #7
he's a toddler mucifer Jan 2022 #2
He's a toddler with a loaded gun in a room full of people. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #16
The Pig flaunts whatever law he wants... Thomas Hurt Jan 2022 #3
Trump's dumb mob brain + lazy/incompetent staff equals this. RockRaven Jan 2022 #4
I am still curious about his meeting with Putin where no records exist, supposedly question everything Jan 2022 #5
He had his interpreter tear up her notes of his meeting with Putin. n/t LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2022 #13
He made his interpreter eat her notes. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #8
I hope someday we get a FOIA on what was improperly put in the "secure server"... NullTuples Jan 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #10
Toddler. truthisfreedom Jan 2022 #9
Sounds like attempted destruction of government documents which I thought was a crime. cstanleytech Feb 2022 #11
That's what was said on the news, preserving government records is mandatory. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #12
he really is a loser POS llashram Feb 2022 #14
Worse. How come so many still want him back? question everything Feb 2022 #21
greedy, amoral cowards llashram Feb 2022 #23
No...they afraid of the Twitter Army threatening their lives. They have been terrorized. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2022 #25
these days for sure llashram Feb 2022 #26
These torn documents were still saved. madaboutharry Feb 2022 #15
Was every document that he tore up preserved? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #18
It probably depends on who was there when he tore things up. madaboutharry Feb 2022 #19
Not long after his inauguration, I read that he was ripping up stuff MissMillie Feb 2022 #20
How appropriate, then, that Pelosi tore his speech. In Public. question everything Feb 2022 #22
+1 INDEED! (n/t) MissMillie Feb 2022 #24

Response to sakabatou (Reply #1)

RockRaven

(14,916 posts)
4. Trump's dumb mob brain + lazy/incompetent staff equals this.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:35 PM
Jan 2022

It's been widely reported for years that he would rip up papers at the end of meetings... Because of his dumb mob brain (destroy the evidence, and all that, it's only a surprise he didn't eat the damned stuff)...

It is legally required to preserve all those documents so the staff initially taped everything back together... But after a couple fucking years of dealing with this dumb shit, they got tired of it, or there was high turnover and poor training...

and you get this completely unsurprising result.

question everything

(47,444 posts)
5. I am still curious about his meeting with Putin where no records exist, supposedly
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jan 2022

But there were interpreters and, no doubt, the Kremlin does have records.


Response to RockRaven (Reply #4)

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
6. I hope someday we get a FOIA on what was improperly put in the "secure server"...
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:55 PM
Jan 2022

and was subsequently de-classified. IIR that's where he tried to bury a number of informational bodies.

Response to NullTuples (Reply #6)

Rhiannon12866

(204,856 posts)
12. That's what was said on the news, preserving government records is mandatory.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 02:27 AM
Feb 2022

But we heard long ago that TFG would rip them up and throw them away while his staff would scramble to try and tape them together. Let's start out charging him with destroying government property and move on up to his other egregious crimes.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
14. he really is a loser POS
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 03:45 AM
Feb 2022

how in the hell did we end with a POS loser like this for POTUS? Russian Hack farms directed by his puppet master Putin? Damn this shit is insane. A nightmare that just won't end. Why won't other former POTUS's speak up as to how TPOSFG is sullying the Office of the President? Somebody, please bring this treasonous POS to justice! I am so goddamn sick of him.

Sorry for the rant. I just needed to get it off my chest. This shit weighs heavily on my being...

question everything

(47,444 posts)
21. Worse. How come so many still want him back?
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:33 PM
Feb 2022

And are there no Republicans who will stand up and say the same?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
25. No...they afraid of the Twitter Army threatening their lives. They have been terrorized.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 02:02 PM
Feb 2022

And even real cray magats trying more than Twitter threats.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
15. These torn documents were still saved.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 05:23 AM
Feb 2022

I find it interesting that White House staffers saved these documents rather than shredding them or throwing them in the trash. There were obviously a few people there who weren’t totally on board with Trump’s authoritarian routine.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
19. It probably depends on who was there when he tore things up.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:03 AM
Feb 2022

He so disrespected the very honor of the presidency.

MissMillie

(38,535 posts)
20. Not long after his inauguration, I read that he was ripping up stuff
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:09 AM
Feb 2022

and that people were taping papers back together so that it could be preserved according to the law.

But this was 4 years in. He knew damned-well (after 4 years) that he couldn't just rip stuff up.


(Then again, I guess we have to consider the learning curve on this guy.)

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