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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 05:33 PM Feb 2022

Manchin, key Dem, says Build Back Better bill is 'dead'

Source: Associated Press

By ALAN FRAM 25 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Joe Manchin declared Tuesday that President Joe Biden’s vast social and environment bill is “dead,” using his strongest language to date to underscore that any revival of Democrats’ top domestic priorities would have to arise from negotiations that are now moribund.

The remarks by the West Virginia Democrat didn’t substantively alter the stance he’d taken in December, when he said he couldn’t support the legislation as written, essentially dooming it. But his latest comments illustrated anew the election-year challenges facing his party as it struggles to resuscitate parts of the package and win over voters weary of the two-year-old pandemic and coping with the worst inflation in decades.

“What Build Back Better bill?” Manchin said Tuesday, using the legislation’s name, when reporters asked about it. “There is no, I mean, I don’t know what you’re all talking about.” Asked if he’d had any talks about it, he added, “No, no, no no. It’s dead.”


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-environment-and-nature-environment-joe-manchin-c2e743dbb3978a9e780779fa4fec09b7



*(&^%$#@!*()^%$ Joe Manchin
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Manchin, key Dem, says Build Back Better bill is 'dead' (Original Post) turbinetree Feb 2022 OP
His Democrat symbol should not be a donkey Bayard Feb 2022 #1
smart aleK!! riversedge Feb 2022 #2
So is DownriverDem Feb 2022 #3
you took the words right out of my mouth. i am so glad he isn't my senator. Trueblue1968 Feb 2022 #31
SO Joe Manchin WANTS to live IN A shithole COUNTRY... YoshidaYui Feb 2022 #4
He doesn't Rebl2 Feb 2022 #8
He could sail his million-dollar yacht to any first-class marina in the US Virgin Islands Justice matters. Feb 2022 #25
The sob killed it. Got what he wanted...what an a-hole. brush Feb 2022 #5
bad boys Slammer Feb 2022 #34
That doesn't sound "gettable". OneCrazyDiamond Feb 2022 #6
Just waiting for him to announce BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #7
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #9
Power-hungry fossil fuel whore hasn't asked his constituents if they want it. OMGWTF Feb 2022 #10
Wish manchin's I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #11
52 Senators is what we need after the next election padah513 Feb 2022 #12
Absolutely DownriverDem Feb 2022 #15
Yep, Concentrate on flipping Wisc,Pa,Ohio,Fla. Senate seats. Funtatlaguy Feb 2022 #20
No surprise. Joe Manchin is "dead" to me. oasis Feb 2022 #13
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #14
WTF ???? Just last Thursday we had this headline: liberalla Feb 2022 #16
He said that like it's a good thing. czarjak Feb 2022 #17
You will never change Manchin and the like, you must change the system of billionaires buying yaesu Feb 2022 #18
Fixating on Manchin serves no useful purpose. Better to fixate on vulnerable Republicans... NurseJackie Feb 2022 #19
Expressing frustration isn't "fixating" Bettie Feb 2022 #26
No, but doing it all the time to the exclusion of focusing instead... NurseJackie Feb 2022 #33
I agree orangecrush Feb 2022 #29
He's got his Maserati and millions. Does not give one fuck about low/middle income constituents. Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #21
AOC asks whether public-housing residents should seek warmth on Sen. Joe Manchin's 'yacht' after the Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #22
F--k Manchin dai13sy Feb 2022 #23
as I said last week, "until he doesn't" Javaman Feb 2022 #24
got a butt load of cash the day after he murder 'd it too !! monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #27
FUUUUCK!! LudwigPastorius Feb 2022 #28
Nothing an Epipen shot couldn't help peppertree Feb 2022 #30
Let's just call it the Build Back Bill. Maybe that would flip him. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2022 #32

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
4. SO Joe Manchin WANTS to live IN A shithole COUNTRY...
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 05:41 PM
Feb 2022

HE is blocking legislation that would ACTUALLY HELP REAL PEOPLE and not SOME fucking phony Congress critter who went to WASHINGTON to make themselves RICH .. FUCK you JOE!

Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
25. He could sail his million-dollar yacht to any first-class marina in the US Virgin Islands
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:30 PM
Feb 2022

for all he'd care. Get his hundred-thousand-dollar Maserati air delivered in the parking lot there and live his millionaire life without "protest" of him being a parasite. Who cares about climate change? He clearly doesn't.

brush

(53,771 posts)
5. The sob killed it. Got what he wanted...what an a-hole.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 05:43 PM
Feb 2022

And has the nerve to rub it in..."it's dead" he says.

Slammer

(714 posts)
34. bad boys
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:08 AM
Feb 2022

Somehow it doesn't seem fair that Manchin gets to say "BBB is dead" but someone else is a bad guy if he were to say something like "Manchin is dead".

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
7. Just waiting for him to announce
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022

A black female Jurist for the Supreme Court is too limiting for him to vote for.

OMGWTF

(3,954 posts)
10. Power-hungry fossil fuel whore hasn't asked his constituents if they want it.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 05:50 PM
Feb 2022

Make this rancid narcissist irrelevant. Elect more and better Democrats.

padah513

(2,502 posts)
12. 52 Senators is what we need after the next election
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 06:05 PM
Feb 2022

After that show him and Sinema some tough love. GOTV

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
15. Absolutely
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 06:46 PM
Feb 2022

It's all about the number of votes. Sadly some folks don't seem to know this when they attack the Dems.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
18. You will never change Manchin and the like, you must change the system of billionaires buying
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 07:23 PM
Feb 2022

politicians, you must destroy citizens united.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Fixating on Manchin serves no useful purpose. Better to fixate on vulnerable Republicans...
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 07:46 PM
Feb 2022

... and flip their seats to the Democrat column.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
26. Expressing frustration isn't "fixating"
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:34 PM
Feb 2022

it is just that, expressing frustration that this one man is hobbling the agenda of our party, our president.

Look, if you are a big fan of Manchin, then fine, be his fan. Cheer him on.

Just don't expect others to do the same.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
33. No, but doing it all the time to the exclusion of focusing instead...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:40 AM
Feb 2022

No, but doing it all the time to the exclusion of focusing instead on things that are ACTUALLY productive is.

Look, if you are a big fan of Manchin, then fine, be his fan. Cheer him on.
Oh, Bettie. I am simply making observations about how futile one thing is... and offering practical advice on how that angst, emotion and energy could be better spent.

I really see NO reason for anyone to be offended or to take it personally. Nor is there any justification for anyone to come-at me with accusations like that. Absolutely ridiculous!

Just don't expect others to do the same.
Look... all I'm trying to say is that my only expectation, as Democrats, is that we should do the smart things... rather than indulge ourselves in the luxury of fixating on those politicians. Accept what can't be changed. Accept what won't happen. Focus instead on what we CAN do... and do THAT!!

That's a much more reasonable approach.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,946 posts)
22. AOC asks whether public-housing residents should seek warmth on Sen. Joe Manchin's 'yacht' after the
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 09:19 PM
Feb 2022
senator declared Biden's spending plan 'dead'

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York on Tuesday took a swing at Sen. Joe Manchin after the West Virginia lawmaker doubled down on his opposition to the Build Back Better agenda.

President Joe Biden's nearly $2 trillion healthcare, climate, and social-spending plan has been floundering for over a month since Manchin came out against the bill in December. That left the party with little to show after six months of negotiations with the Democratic holdout.

"Seniors, kids, & people with disabilities in my community have been sleeping with bubble jackets on in 18 degree nights, despite paying rent, bc the NYCHA funding to fix their heating and capital needs is in BBB," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. "Where should I direct them to wait out the cold? Manchin's yacht?"

She was referring to the Washington, DC, houseboat, "Almost Heaven," on which Manchin lives. Several boat builders and maritime-industry professionals have previously said that it's a stretch to call the 65-foot vessel a yacht.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/aoc-asks-whether-public-housing-residents-should-seek-warmth-on-sen-joe-manchins-yacht-after-the-senator-declared-bidens-spending-plan-dead/ar-AATnqcN

dai13sy

(334 posts)
23. F--k Manchin
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 10:06 PM
Feb 2022

I'm so sick of Manchin and and his ridiculous grandstanding and knifing every Democrat in the back. Total waste of air and space. He and Sinema should be drummed out of the Senate and the House. I'm hoping they pay big time at the ballot box

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
24. as I said last week, "until he doesn't"
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 10:30 PM
Feb 2022

and guess what? he didn't

that asshole from WV is nothing but a gaslighting bait and switch fuck.

when with the Real Dems learn?

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