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Casady1

(2,133 posts)
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 06:27 PM Feb 2022

Accidental Bill Belichick Text Messages At Center Of Brian Flores Racial Discrimination Lawsuit Agai

Source: Boston CBS local

BOSTON (CBS) — Bill Belichick texted the wrong Brian to congratulate him for getting the Giants’ head coaching a job, according to a lawsuit filed by former Dolphins head coach and former Patriots assistant coach Brian Flores.

The lawsuit showed text messages of Belichick sending congratulations to Flores for landing the Giants job on Jan. 24. That text was sent two days prior to Flores actually interviewing for the job.

After Flores initially appeared confused by the text message, he asked Belichick, “Coach, are you talking to Brian Flores or Brian Daboll. Just making sure.”

Belichick replied: “Sorry – I f—ed this up. I double checked & I misread the text. I think they are naming Daboll. I’m sorry about that. BB”

The lawsuit alleges that Flores was then “forced to sit throug a dinner with Joe Schoen, the Giant’s [sic] new General Manager, knowing that the Giants had already selected Mr. Daboll. Much worse, on Thursday, January 27, 2022, Mr. Flores had to give an extensive interview for a job that he already knew he would not get — an interview that was held for no reason other than for the Giants to demonstrate falsely to the League Commissioner Roger Goodell and the public at large that it was in compliance with the Rooney rule.”

So glad the NFL is being sued. Eff those assholes owners after they blackballed kapernick. Jerry Jones kneeling made me through up a little in my mouth.

Read more: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/02/01/bill-belichick-accidental-text-message-brian-flores-racial-discrimination-lawsuit-giants-brian-daboll-hiring/?fbclid=IwAR3ClBCBteSLohWhTPhvzAfTuY53gSH3PbP7SM0oARfl16LQuX4PeIftbYA

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Accidental Bill Belichick Text Messages At Center Of Brian Flores Racial Discrimination Lawsuit Agai (Original Post) Casady1 Feb 2022 OP
I hope Brian Flores' suit is successful. Paladin Feb 2022 #1
Same here, but I also worry that this could impact his ability to get hired again as a HC. Bleacher Creature Feb 2022 #4
Flores said Casady1 Feb 2022 #5
You're right. He certainly won't get hired in this round of vacancies. brush Feb 2022 #6
$100,000 incentive to lose games for better draft pick positioning. wtf oasis Feb 2022 #2
and tried to get him to break meddling rules. underpants Feb 2022 #10
How was he "forced" to go to a dinner? oldsoftie Feb 2022 #3
They would have denied it and Flores would have looked bad is my guess Raven123 Feb 2022 #7
Show them the text! oldsoftie Feb 2022 #11
The Giants would claimed Belicheck misunderstood Raven123 Feb 2022 #16
Except they hired the guy so they couldn't say it was a mistake for long! oldsoftie Feb 2022 #18
Those are quotes from the lawsuit. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #19
Go to ESPN rpannier Feb 2022 #8
Those a-holes will do ANYTHING to get around the Rooney Rule FakeNoose Feb 2022 #9
I don't follow the Dolphins TheFarseer Feb 2022 #12
From what I've just seen of the Flores suit it makes at least one huge legal mistake. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #13
I doubt that was an accident on Belichick's part cadoman Feb 2022 #14
How long until the haters call him an SOB, especially the bigly orange one? Marcuse Feb 2022 #15
Don't go to the yahoo boards commenting on this. The Klan is already out in force AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #17
Oh, he's too focused on Lindsey & Mitch smacking him about the pardons. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #20
Could maybe see this if Flores hadn't been hired as a head coach Deminpenn Feb 2022 #21
If Flores can get beyond the initial motion to dismiss, then that opens up a world of possibilities... NurseJackie Feb 2022 #22
 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
1. I hope Brian Flores' suit is successful.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 06:33 PM
Feb 2022

I hope a maximum amount of NFL dirty laundry is exposed. All this is way overdue.

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
4. Same here, but I also worry that this could impact his ability to get hired again as a HC.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 06:41 PM
Feb 2022

NFL owners like to pretend that they don't blackball people even when they are clearly blackballing someone.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. You're right. He certainly won't get hired in this round of vacancies.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 07:20 PM
Feb 2022

And he should've been one of the first ones hired as he took the moribund Dolphins franchise, mired in a season-after-season doldrum, to two straight winning seasons.

This is his "Curt Flood" moment and my hat is off to him as this suit will hell others as it puts the spotlight on the ol' boy network of the owners' constant re-hiring of the same, fired, white head coaches, coordinators and GMs.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
3. How was he "forced" to go to a dinner?
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 06:39 PM
Feb 2022

If I thought I didn't have a shot & the decision had been made, I would've called them on it and stayed home. Daboll was the favorite from the start; because of his QB track record.
Sorry, not too pissed about this one; even though Belichick is involved.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
18. Except they hired the guy so they couldn't say it was a mistake for long!
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:07 PM
Feb 2022

And as I said earlier, Daboll was the heavy favorite from the start because of his work with QBs. If everyone knows that's what you're looking for, its going to affect your search. Yes, the NFL took a long time to get a black coach. But they're going to still go for what they think fits best.
Someone is going to hire Eric Bieniemy. Which is who I wanted the Falcons to hire last year. And they'll get a good one in him from what I've seen. Maybe other black coaches as well this year; who knows. I've kept my eye on him because I hoped my team would hire him. And just watch; next yr the Falcons will play whoever does hire him and get their ass kicked.

rpannier

(24,935 posts)
8. Go to ESPN
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:15 PM
Feb 2022

Spears has the best take on this whole thing
Titled: Spears on Flores lawsuit: 'Spare me the shock'

Stop blaming Goodell. It's the owners. They are the ones who hire and fire.
Goodell makes a convenient target to avoid pointing the finger where it really belongs -- The Owners

FakeNoose

(41,887 posts)
9. Those a-holes will do ANYTHING to get around the Rooney Rule
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

I hope Brian Flores burns them good.

TheFarseer

(9,784 posts)
12. I don't follow the Dolphins
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:26 AM
Feb 2022

But it seems like he got a raw deal, getting fired after 2 winning seasons.

CaptainTruth

(8,220 posts)
13. From what I've just seen of the Flores suit it makes at least one huge legal mistake.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:35 AM
Feb 2022

A reference to Plessy v Ferguson that's completely wrong.


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Some reactions from Twitter:

Oh fucking God.
One quick google is all it would take, guys...

That’s an odd way of saying separate but equal…

: In a world... where the Fuller court listened to Harlan...

Somebody skipped that day of Con Law

Wow did an actual lawyer write that?!

Oh my.
This is about as bad as an error can get in a pleading.
"Hey judge...I don't know shit. Sincerely- the attorney filing this."

That's from Flores's complaint, which has a lot of interesting stuff to go along with that mistake. The Coliseum did force the Rams to integrate, but it wasn't because of the Supreme Court and of course it wasn't because of Plessy.

etc etc etc
 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
14. I doubt that was an accident on Belichick's part
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:56 AM
Feb 2022

Probably a good gesture to a former assistant that he knew had been done wrong.

Gave him the evidence he needed to go after the league with plausible deniability.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,808 posts)
17. Don't go to the yahoo boards commenting on this. The Klan is already out in force
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:05 PM
Feb 2022

Agent Orange's personality cultists really love flooding message boards with their inane drivel.

They said the NFL is innocent until proven guilty. I told them that this circumstance only happens in criminal cases. This is a civil suit, so the bar is lowered to preponderance of evidence and I got attacked and flamed for not knowing the law.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
20. Oh, he's too focused on Lindsey & Mitch smacking him about the pardons.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:57 PM
Feb 2022

He says they "don't know anything" and are RINOs and on and on blah blah

Deminpenn

(17,539 posts)
21. Could maybe see this if Flores hadn't been hired as a head coach
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:27 AM
Feb 2022

but he was. Now he's a former NFL head coach who was fired and in the market for a new gig.

Evidently the reason he was let go is because he tried to win games and not lose them as the owner wanted in pursuit of drafting near the top of the NFL draft. That is the real scandal, an owner, Stephen Ross, who was prepared to pay his head coach a bonus, reportedly 100k, for losing games.

When the Steelers were looking for a new coach after Cowher retired in 2006, all the media odds were on Russ Grimm getting the job. IIRC, there were even reports that Grimm was hired. As per the rule named after the owner, the Steelers interviewed then 1st year MN DC Mike Tomlin. Tomlin was so impressive in his interview, he was hired and 15 years later is still their head coach.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. If Flores can get beyond the initial motion to dismiss, then that opens up a world of possibilities...
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 07:20 AM
Feb 2022

... even if he ends up losing (in the end) the discovery process will help to bring-to-light a lot of what happens in the dark.

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