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oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:07 PM Feb 2022

Rep. Adam Kinzinger Pushes 'Uneasy Alliance' to Thwart Trump's Allies

Source: WTTW.com

NEW YORK (AP) — In the high-stakes fight for the GOP’s future, Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., is calling on Democrats and independents to form an “uneasy alliance” with Republicans to fight former President Donald Trump's influence.

Kinzinger, one of Trump’s fiercest Republican critics in Congress, has directed his political organization to initiate a novel campaign to convince non-Republicans to support anti-Trump Republican candidates in GOP primary contests across the country later this year. Experts suggest the practice, sometimes known as “party raiding,” will be hard to execute on a broad scale, but Kinzinger warned that failure to shift the GOP’s embrace of Trump could undermine democracy or even lead to “failed state.”

“People need to wake up to that real possibility,” Kinzinger, who is not seeking reelection this fall, told The Associated Press. “We have to be able to have uneasy alliances, as uneasy as they may be in this moment.”

There are few modern examples of a sitting Republican member of Congress so openly asking Democrats to help take down a former president of his own party.

Read more: https://news.wttw.com/2022/02/02/rep-adam-kinzinger-pushes-uneasy-alliance-thwart-trump-s-allies



I already planned to do this in GA. Stacy Abrams has no primary opponent anyway. Defeat Perdue & Jody Hice. And if you're in a reliably Red state, even MORE reason to do it. Vote in the GOP primary and defeat the Trump shills that he needs in place to tamper with the NEXT election. If you live in Liz Cheney's district, vote for her.
Not only does it defeat trumps lackeys, the bonus is that it will drive Trump absolutely NUTS
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Rep. Adam Kinzinger Pushes 'Uneasy Alliance' to Thwart Trump's Allies (Original Post) oldsoftie Feb 2022 OP
If there is such a thing as a good republican C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #1
mitt romney, profile in cowardice nt msongs Feb 2022 #2
But if you have 2 republicans running for a seat a republican is likely to win; oldsoftie Feb 2022 #3
Absolutely! If there's no chance a Democrat will win, why not vote that way? XacerbatedDem Feb 2022 #22
I recommend doing this if you're in a state that's uncompetitive for Democrats. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #4
I think it would depend on the district crud Feb 2022 #5
I've seen that strategy work well bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #6
Did this type of strategic voting... appmanga Feb 2022 #7
I remember that. nt oldsoftie Feb 2022 #10
Which Republicans? They're all in with the traitor. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2022 #8
So you see no difference between Jim Jordan & Liz Cheney? Cheney & Marjorie Taylor Greene? oldsoftie Feb 2022 #9
Cheney is just as evil as any of them. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2022 #12
Stopping trump's plan should be the focus. Its bigger than their party. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #14
I agree... XacerbatedDem Feb 2022 #23
Cheney would take away health care Alpeduez21 Feb 2022 #13
So would the trump-lover who would replace her. Excise the national cancer. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #25
His district was eliminated post census. Lucky Luciano Feb 2022 #18
His district was altered, not eliminated. He'll still be running. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #24
If you are still a member of the Alpeduez21 Feb 2022 #11
Our country needs Democrats and Democrats ONLY bluestarone Feb 2022 #15
Strategic voting. roamer65 Feb 2022 #16
Really like Kinzinger rustysgurl Feb 2022 #17
He has the right idea. kentuck Feb 2022 #19
Yes. Too many aren't seeing the forest for the trees oldsoftie Feb 2022 #21
Depends on the Republican ibegurpard Feb 2022 #20
I don't think Perdue's run is a real run. Calista241 Feb 2022 #26

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
1. If there is such a thing as a good republican
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:10 PM
Feb 2022

... they sure don't belong in today's GOP. And the fact that so many are still there, speaks volumes about their lack of character.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
3. But if you have 2 republicans running for a seat a republican is likely to win;
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:15 PM
Feb 2022

wouldn't you rather defeat trump along the way? The GOP is going to win Cheney's district. Wouldn't it be nice to defeat trump by backing HER instead of putting another MTG in office?

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
22. Absolutely! If there's no chance a Democrat will win, why not vote that way?
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 09:37 AM
Feb 2022

I live in MO and I hate wasting my vote. I raised this concern earlier and got some helpful advice about targeting the rePug's primaries in order to chose the lesser of two evils, then vote for the democrat in the actual election, if they have a chance. Somebody didn't like that option because he thought it was gaming the election. I didn't argue with the guy, but it seems to me that if that were true, what about Independents? Can't they do that very thing?

And yes, some of these rePugs are just grifters, playing the system. Why not try to stop the worst of them?

Haggard Celine

(16,843 posts)
4. I recommend doing this if you're in a state that's uncompetitive for Democrats.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:17 PM
Feb 2022

I already vote in a lot of Republican primaries in my state, because that's where most of the elections are really decided down here. It can make a big difference. Democrats decided a U.S. Senate race several years ago, and the guy who was defeated was pretty scary. He no doubt would be a Trumper if had won that primary. And that's what it's about in a lot of elections, finding the least objectionable person.

crud

(617 posts)
5. I think it would depend on the district
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:18 PM
Feb 2022

In swing districts you might want to do the opposite in the primary because a RWNJ would be easier to beat in the general.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
6. I've seen that strategy work well
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:23 PM
Feb 2022

Voters of other party change registrations to defeat fringe candidate in the primary.

I'd bet it will yield 3-4% difference in primaries where party leaders get behind it.

appmanga

(571 posts)
7. Did this type of strategic voting...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:23 PM
Feb 2022

...to dump Bob Barr when he ran against John Linder. A Republican was going to win, so helped to make it Linder.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
8. Which Republicans? They're all in with the traitor.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:23 PM
Feb 2022

Cowards like Kinzinger are giving up the ghost and turning tail. And he won’t address voting rights or any real solution to his party’s deadly serious problems.

I mean, yay for not being a traitor and all, which is the very least we can expect from an elected official but at the same time, fuck this guy.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
9. So you see no difference between Jim Jordan & Liz Cheney? Cheney & Marjorie Taylor Greene?
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:29 PM
Feb 2022

Come on. "the enemy of my enemy...."
We're talking about stopping an infiltration that could bring down the country.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
12. Cheney is just as evil as any of them.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:38 PM
Feb 2022

I’m sick of her being treated like a hero for holding the most basic position. She’s awful on every policy position that matters. The difference between her and Jordan is the difference between Paul Castellano and John Gotti. Both were evil, murderous assholes but one held to the traditions and the other blew it all up.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
14. Stopping trump's plan should be the focus. Its bigger than their party.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:46 PM
Feb 2022

Especially if you live in a solid red area or state. Democrats can help rid the world of the trump cancer.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
13. Cheney would take away health care
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:44 PM
Feb 2022

Cheney would suppress the vote of people.
Cheney supported Kavanaugh
Cheney voted with the lazy lying steaming pile Hump 93% of the time.

I see a difference but at the end of the day she still supports the party that has crapped all over her. That says a lot about her character.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
25. So would the trump-lover who would replace her. Excise the national cancer.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:31 PM
Feb 2022

If trumps personal minions can be defeated, it defeats HIM as well. He's too old for the '28 election. assuming he's still around at that time.....

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
24. His district was altered, not eliminated. He'll still be running.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:29 PM
Feb 2022

He's just pissed that it'll be more competitive.
But this plan wouldn't involve him anyway because he won't be primaried.

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
15. Our country needs Democrats and Democrats ONLY
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:49 PM
Feb 2022

They (The Kinzinger types) need to join US (Democrats) and get rid of ALL these TFG's type people!! VOTE with us on every bill in the House and Senate!! We will have the power to completely DESTROY the CULT we are dealing with! THAT'S the answer and ONLY answer!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. Strategic voting.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:35 PM
Feb 2022

I voted for John McCain over the Shrub in the MI Repuke primary in 2000.

I enjoyed it immensely.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
21. Yes. Too many aren't seeing the forest for the trees
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 08:00 AM
Feb 2022

We can't just say "Put him in jail!". WE have no control over that. But WE, as a group, CAN stop the infection of trumpism spreading further into state offices where they could actually DO what he wanted last time.
Again, ESPECIALLY if you're in a Red state

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
26. I don't think Perdue's run is a real run.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 02:55 PM
Feb 2022

He's behind in the polls, and my guess is that he'll pull out saying he can't win. Perdue is smart and politically savvy, and he knows that a violent primary between him and Kemp will only suppress turnout, and with Warnock up in the Senate, depressed Republican turnout is their own worst enemy.

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