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catsudon

(864 posts)
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:38 PM Feb 2022

Rotterdam bridge to be dismantled so Jeff Bezos' yacht can pass through

Source: Dutch News. NL

A massive steel bridge in Rotterdam is to be partly demolished so that the pleasure yacht being built for Amazon founder Jeff Bezos can sail through it to the sea, local broadcaster Rijnmond said on Wednesday.



Read more: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/02/rotterdam-bridge-to-be-dismantled-so-jeff-bezos-yacht-can-pass-through/



well... i know someone's ship is going to be pelted with garbage at a certain day.
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Rotterdam bridge to be dismantled so Jeff Bezos' yacht can pass through (Original Post) catsudon Feb 2022 OP
Rich oligarchs are in control of the world's power and wealth. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #1
Damn! His yacht can't pass through that? CrispyQ Feb 2022 #2
Perhaps it's not wide enough Polybius Feb 2022 #3
But Jeff won't be onboard at that point! dickthegrouch Feb 2022 #15
The width isn't the problem Old Crank Feb 2022 #40
This is his boat (without the masts on it yet). LudwigPastorius Feb 2022 #10
Can't they add the masts after it has been towed beyond the bridge? question everything Feb 2022 #36
Funny you should say this canetoad Feb 2022 #56
It's the largest yacht in the entire world IronLionZion Feb 2022 #11
No, largest sailing yacht it says in the article. There are bigger yachts. EX500rider Feb 2022 #23
It's the world's largest sailboat so the masts would be too tall csziggy Feb 2022 #60
It's stepping the mast... EX500rider Feb 2022 #61
Thank you for the correction - as I said I know nothing about ships/boats nt csziggy Feb 2022 #62
Gross. Seriously- how embarrassing Thtwudbeme Feb 2022 #4
What's next? Remove Portugal and Spain because they're in the way of my yacht getting to LoisB Feb 2022 #5
We can find efficiencies by removing Florida IronLionZion Feb 2022 #14
AMEN!! LoisB Feb 2022 #20
Imma sharpen my saws. flying rabbit Feb 2022 #31
This Is Wrong... GB_RN Feb 2022 #6
As I understand it, House of Roberts Feb 2022 #7
The shipbuilder should do 2-stage construction, adding the taller masts at another shipyard. TheBlackAdder Feb 2022 #8
What shape is the yacht? Asking for a friend. iscooterliberally Feb 2022 #9
I see what you did there. dchill Feb 2022 #34
Isn't it great to know that we pay taxes so Bezos doesn't have to? Vinca Feb 2022 #12
"Bezos have approached the council about temporarily dismantling the bridge at their cost" brooklynite Feb 2022 #13
And Bezos wants the city council to authorize funding to do this. Diamond_Dog Feb 2022 #16
That's not what I read. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #19
I'm not seeing the problem here. gristy Feb 2022 #17
Bezos "paying" means US taxpayers are paying. Much of Bezos' wealth is from not paying taxes. PSPS Feb 2022 #24
What taxes is he supposed to be paying that he isn't? EX500rider Feb 2022 #27
legally he's most likely paying 100% cadoman Feb 2022 #47
Not entirely true DBoon Feb 2022 #30
"Tax trickery" By which you mean the tax code as written? EX500rider Feb 2022 #42
Yes, the code resulting from heavy lobbying by big coporations and wealthy individuals DBoon Feb 2022 #46
If you can show me where Bezos lobbied to have the tax code changed, otherwise i don't EX500rider Feb 2022 #48
If I made a personal call to Bezos would that satisfy you? DBoon Feb 2022 #53
In other words he has zero to do with the current tax code as far as we know? EX500rider Feb 2022 #54
I have a brother and law who works for Amazon and is paid pretty well Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #52
According to BBC, Rotterdam officials agreed to this because of jobs Hoyt Feb 2022 #18
I hope the workers get adequate pee breaks nt intrepidity Feb 2022 #50
I hope the bridge is ok in the end. truthisfreedom Feb 2022 #21
This is so bizarre PatSeg Feb 2022 #22
When one of the space shuttle was transferred to the museum at USC in LA question everything Feb 2022 #57
The residents must have been furious PatSeg Feb 2022 #59
Bezos will be paying the cost of the dismantling and replacement. George II Feb 2022 #25
I hear they'll be renaming the bridge America. uncle ray Feb 2022 #35
Its good to be da king... Chainfire Feb 2022 #26
That is truly disgusting. I'd rather see his vessel cut up to accomodate the bridge. WTF? Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #28
They should dismantle the yacht so it will fit the bridge DBoon Feb 2022 #29
... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #32
This is simply obscene. BarbD Feb 2022 #33
Ugh Lulu KC Feb 2022 #37
Actually inthewind21 Feb 2022 #38
Two different problems Lulu KC Feb 2022 #39
Billionaires furthering space travel & research seems like a better thing then what most of them do EX500rider Feb 2022 #43
I would have thought Old Crank Feb 2022 #41
Mast aren't on it yet so maybe it's a width issue. EX500rider Feb 2022 #44
Article that I read Old Crank Feb 2022 #58
It will be one of the greatest yachts ever to set sail. Kid Berwyn Feb 2022 #45
Certainly greener then a diesel motors only superyacht. nt EX500rider Feb 2022 #49
Apparently, he is paying to rebuild the bridge Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #51
Maybe the criticism is why he had it made overseas. Hoyt Feb 2022 #55

CrispyQ

(37,075 posts)
2. Damn! His yacht can't pass through that?
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:43 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:28 PM - Edit history (2)

Is this photo really the part of the bridge they're going to take apart? Cuz it looks huge in this image.



on edit:

Another pic of the bridge from a different perspective. Perhaps it's the smaller bridge in front?



dickthegrouch

(3,291 posts)
15. But Jeff won't be onboard at that point!
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:13 PM
Feb 2022

Nevertheless it’s pretty poor planning on the designers part to build something so big it can’t be accommodated by existing infrastructure.

I hope someone loses their engineering or architectural certification over this.

Old Crank

(4,015 posts)
40. The width isn't the problem
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 10:37 AM
Feb 2022

It is the height, The cross member will have to be removed or partially removed.

canetoad

(17,478 posts)
56. Funny you should say this
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:15 AM
Feb 2022

Because that's SOP with boats and masts and rigging.

I don't believe this story. Amateurish BS. There's more than enough true stuff about the world's wealthiest for this not to be necessary.

csziggy

(34,162 posts)
60. It's the world's largest sailboat so the masts would be too tall
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 12:26 PM
Feb 2022
Three Things to Know About the Jeff Bezos Super Yacht
The Washington Post owner's very big boat is a record-breaker.
Written by Marisa M. Kashino
| Published on February 4, 2022

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. The Bezos boat will be the world’s largest sailing super-yacht.

The yacht measures 127 meters in length, which is about 57 feet longer than a football field. According to Boat International, it’s a three-masted schooner, constructed of aluminum and steel, set to be completed this summer.

More: https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/02/04/three-things-to-know-about-the-jeff-bezos-super-yacht/


What I don't understand is, isn't it possible to take the thing through the bridge, then put up the masts? I know little to nothing about boats/ships but I have heard of taking masts down ("shipping the masts" I think the phrase is).

EX500rider

(11,018 posts)
61. It's stepping the mast...
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 12:39 PM
Feb 2022

..and was more common on older Tall Ships because their masts were not all one piece, usually 3, called:
The lowest piece was called the mast or the lower.
Then Topmast.
Then Topgallant mast.
&
Royal mast, if fitted.
They would bring down the Royal/or Top at sea if a big storm was coming.

But I don't see why his masts couldn't be fitted elsewhere, might be the shipyard wants the $, I believe they have done this to the bridge before.

LoisB

(7,475 posts)
5. What's next? Remove Portugal and Spain because they're in the way of my yacht getting to
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:50 PM
Feb 2022

Italy? Hope I've got the geography right.

GB_RN

(2,647 posts)
6. This Is Wrong...
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:56 PM
Feb 2022

Jeff can get a new fucking yacht that can go under it, or find a new fucking place to dock...

House of Roberts

(5,370 posts)
7. As I understand it,
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:57 PM
Feb 2022

the yacht is being built in the port where the bridge is. The bridge being dismantled is so the yacht can put to sea after completion.

To not agree to moving the bridge would have meant not getting the profits from building the yacht.

brooklynite

(96,747 posts)
13. "Bezos have approached the council about temporarily dismantling the bridge at their cost"
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:12 PM
Feb 2022

Explain what this issue is?

mahatmakanejeeves

(58,835 posts)
19. That's not what I read.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:33 PM
Feb 2022
Dutch Bridge To Come Down For Bezos Super-Yacht

February 3, 2022 Business, News

The New York Post reports:

A Dutch city has agreed to spend weeks taking down a historic bridge so Jeff Bezos’ new gigantic superyacht can reach the open seas this summer.

The Amazon founder’s 417-foot-long, three-masted ship is under construction in the Netherlands, but the pleasure boat will be too tall to pass under Rotterdam’s landmark Koningshaven Bridge.

As a work-around, the megabillionaire and the boatmaker Oceano reportedly asked Rotterdam officials to temporarily dismantle the iconic bridge, and pledged to reimburse the city for expenses.

{snip}

The bridge comes down temporarily, Rotterdam has a chance to perform some repairs to it after 95 years, and Bezos picks up the tab.

What's the problem?

Wait, there's more. The bridge was restored five years ago. It's not even in use, at least for rail traffic. Maybe people can go out on it, or it's used for vehicles. I haven't checked.

{snip}

Word of the planned deconstruction of the 1878 steel structure took a toll on preservation officials, who said the city pledged not to take apart De Hef again following a 2017 restoration.

{snip}

The bridge was one of the first Rotterdam landmarks to be restored after the city was bombed in World War II. It became obsolete after a tunnel was built for train traffic in 1993, but residents balked at demolishing the span, and it was converted into a national monument, the {NL Times} reported.

{snip}

gristy

(10,677 posts)
17. I'm not seeing the problem here.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:17 PM
Feb 2022

If Bezos or the shipbuilder are paying for this, it's not a problem, right?

cadoman

(792 posts)
47. legally he's most likely paying 100%
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 04:44 PM
Feb 2022

It's just that he has access to credits and rebates that the rest of us could only dream of, effectively giving him a 0% rate.

If you ever get in proximity of wealth you'll see that progressive taxation is an illusion. The "tax rate" only matters for salaried Bickles and small business owners.

DBoon

(22,628 posts)
30. Not entirely true
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 07:43 PM
Feb 2022

Much of his wealth *is* from the blood and sweat of Amazon workers. Tax trickery allows him to keep the wealth thus generated.

DBoon

(22,628 posts)
46. Yes, the code resulting from heavy lobbying by big coporations and wealthy individuals
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 03:44 PM
Feb 2022

the best tax code money can buy

though of course the IRS tends not to enforce tax code violations by wealthy corporation and individuals, as they find it consumes excessive legal resources attempting to prosecute these cases.

Enforcement tends to go after lower income individuals who do not retain expensive laws firm,s and drag out cases for years.

EX500rider

(11,018 posts)
48. If you can show me where Bezos lobbied to have the tax code changed, otherwise i don't
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 04:49 PM
Feb 2022

blame him for not paying more then he is suppose to.
The issue is most these billionaires don't take big salaries so they don't pay much income tax, they own billions in stock of their company is why they are billionaires.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. According to BBC, Rotterdam officials agreed to this because of jobs
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:26 PM
Feb 2022

it brought. It will take two weeks to dismantle and replace. Bezos is paying.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60241145

truthisfreedom

(23,246 posts)
21. I hope the bridge is ok in the end.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 04:43 PM
Feb 2022

It’s difficult to fathom that he can buy a toy like this and avoid taxes.

question everything

(48,130 posts)
57. When one of the space shuttle was transferred to the museum at USC in LA
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:05 AM
Feb 2022

it was transported through major streets in LA, not freeways. And many trees had to be removed to make room for it. I don't know if new trees were planted.
.

https://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/05/endeavour-shuttles-final-trip-to-l-a-museum-forces-removal-of-400-trees/

PatSeg

(49,293 posts)
59. The residents must have been furious
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:47 AM
Feb 2022

Not as bad as a billionaire's luxury yacht, but still very destructive and expensive.

Lulu KC

(2,739 posts)
37. Ugh
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

So irritated that I JUST ordered a book about pollinators and gardening from Amazon, and we're hooked on a series that's on Prime.
People like me are part of the problem.
I need to address this.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
38. Actually
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 04:50 PM
Feb 2022

People who go all hysterical without knowing what they are hysterical about is the problem. And it's on full display in this very thread.

Lulu KC

(2,739 posts)
39. Two different problems
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 10:27 AM
Feb 2022

I'm disgusted by the excess and the attitude of, "It's all mine." I should have turned away from Amazon after his rocket ship ride, but it was inconvenient for me to do so.
But that's just me.

EX500rider

(11,018 posts)
43. Billionaires furthering space travel & research seems like a better thing then what most of them do
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:45 PM
Feb 2022

Lots of huge houses and tons of hyper cars seems less useful to me. ymmv

Old Crank

(4,015 posts)
41. I would have thought
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 10:41 AM
Feb 2022

That the masts, or the top parts of them could be installed after teh ship is pulled under the bridge.

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