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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:34 PM Oct 2012

Republican Congressional Candidate Opines On ‘The Rape Thing’ (AUDIO)

Source: TPM

John Koster, Republican nominee in Washington’s First Congressional District, was captured on tape over the weekend explaining why he is opposed to abortion in the case of incest and rape. Incest he said, was “so rare.” Then he turned to rape.

“On the rape thing, it’s like, how does putting more violence onto a woman’s body and taking the life of an innocent child that’s the consequence of this crime, how does that make it better?” Koster said. “You know what I mean?”

It was the second time Koster tried to explain “the rape thing.” Democrats are balking at the language and calling it offensive.

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The audio was recorded at a fundraising event over the weekend in Everett, Wash. The Seattle Times reported the liberal group behind the clip “secretly audio-taped Koster” at the fundraiser.

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Read more: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/john-koster-the-rape-thing.php



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Republican Congressional Candidate Opines On ‘The Rape Thing’ (AUDIO) (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2012 OP
gaaa-h! These people n/t freeplessinseattle Oct 2012 #1
could he be more disgusting? KT2000 Oct 2012 #2
disgusting kardonb Nov 2012 #13
obsessing about abortion ode2joi Nov 2012 #21
And having that choice makes all the difference. truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #3
that rape thing? IT'S STILL NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS SemperEadem Oct 2012 #4
"The Rape Thing?" ladym55 Oct 2012 #5
How many more of these assholes are we going to have to listen to? Marie Marie Oct 2012 #6
This is my district HeiressofBickworth Oct 2012 #7
Is he running unopposed for the seat? AleksS Oct 2012 #8
good Dem opponent KT2000 Oct 2012 #9
Susan DelBene is the Dem running against Koster HeiressofBickworth Oct 2012 #11
I thought we were about due PMcDee Oct 2012 #10
Another asshat ignorant prick running for a public office. Don't let it happen people! crunch60 Oct 2012 #12
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Nov 2012 #14
They just can't keep their mouths shut, can they? Gotta keep stickin' them foots in there. Kablooie Nov 2012 #15
Its like they have tourette syndrome. "Rape, Rape, Rapity, Rape, Rape" JoePhilly Nov 2012 #16
A whole week without a stupid GOP candidate commenting about rape ehrnst Nov 2012 #17
To these men women are nothing more then breeders. How sad he doesn't understand southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #18
I sure hope he loses DonRedwood Nov 2012 #19
I do believe that Mr. Koster needs to spend a couple of hundred hours in sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #20
He is wrong on so many levels. HelenWheels Nov 2012 #22
Rape Thing SamKnause Nov 2012 #23
What they are really doing is evoking the shame and terror of sexual assault. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #26
NO, we don't know what you mean.... AlbertCat Nov 2012 #24
Tell that to the parents of the adopted child, that it was a product of violence and unwantedness, Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #25
IT'S NOT A CHILD DUMB ASS! Dem2TheCore Nov 2012 #27
If this is true; then that woman made a choice for hgerself and for efhmc Nov 2012 #28
Would be true only if you're talking about a child. caseymoz Nov 2012 #29
Incest is NOT "rare", and I can attest to it, you fuckwad. dangerdoll Nov 2012 #30
What is it with the Republicans and the whole "rape thing"? Ash_F Nov 2012 #31
"I'm not going to make that decision" Skittles Nov 2012 #32
An 11 year old is a child too HockeyMom Nov 2012 #33
I'm in Koster's district. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #34
 

kardonb

(777 posts)
13. disgusting
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:17 AM
Nov 2012

can someone please explain the repugs obsession with rape and abortion ? There is something VERY sick here !

ode2joi

(26 posts)
21. obsessing about abortion
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

It's all about demographics. Some racist whites see it as maintaining control of the narrative. White babies must be born to maintain the and remain at the top of the of the food chain.

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
3. And having that choice makes all the difference.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:45 PM
Oct 2012

These people simply want to let rapists force women to have babies they don't want.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
4. that rape thing? IT'S STILL NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:47 PM
Oct 2012

WHAT THAT WOMAN ****CHOOSES**** TO DO WITH HER BODY!!! Jesus jumped up Christ on a stick!! Why can't you all understand that?

To condone forcing a woman to bear her rapist's child is the same as condoning the rape. You cannot separate the two. If God intended on the pregnancy to happen, then he intended upon the rape happening because that is the means by which the conception occurred. So you can't parse your way out of that (like that idiot from Politico was allowed to get away with saying on c-span's washington journal this morning without being challenged on it).

At the end of the day, this moron and others like him are condoning the rape of women. Period. End of story.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
5. "The Rape Thing?"
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:58 PM
Oct 2012

Seriously???? Can we all say misogynist???? Can we all say ignorant a$$hat?

Every time I think I can't be more offended by some right-wing male moron, another one "speaks."

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
6. How many more of these assholes are we going to have to listen to?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:14 PM
Oct 2012

Could you all just crawl out from under that rock NOW and lets get all of your ignorance out at one time. Rape "thing"??? Incest "rare"?? "Know what I mean"?? No, I don't know what you mean! Where do these Neanderthals (no offense to our ancestors) get their stunning [lack of] knowledge? Enough already.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
7. This is my district
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:16 PM
Oct 2012

Jay Inslee (D) was our Representative but dropped out to run for governor, leaving the position vacant. Koster is the Republican running to fill this office. I filled out my ballot today (WA is mail-in) and definitely did NOT mark the space next to this idiot's name. I was surprised to learn that this latest piece of woman-hating was in this traditionally Democratic district.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
11. Susan DelBene is the Dem running against Koster
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:04 PM
Oct 2012

Former WA Department of Revenue Director, former Microsoft executive, MBA University of Washington. Would end the Bush tax cuts, protect Social Security and Medicare, and a woman's right to choose. Eliminate tax breaks for oil companies. Supports the "Buffett Rule" to make millionaires pay their fair share.

(right out of the voter's manual)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. A whole week without a stupid GOP candidate commenting about rape
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:56 AM
Nov 2012

Won't happen until after elections.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
18. To these men women are nothing more then breeders. How sad he doesn't understand
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:52 AM
Nov 2012

the emotional effects of women. Not EVERY woman feels like his friend. Why should she care for an unwanted baby she has to carry for 9 months to give it up for adoption when maybe the woman has to go to work. He acts like carrying a baby is nothing. That is the problem with many men they really dont understand women and emotions. But maybe if he had a daughter or granddaughter who was raped I am sure he would feel different.

HelenWheels

(2,284 posts)
22. He is wrong on so many levels.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:54 AM
Nov 2012

I worked as a Public Health Nurse and than a nurse in a juvenile correctional facility. Incest happens with more frequency than he knows. As far as abortion putting more violence in a woman's life how about having the rapist daddy having visiting rites to the child? This would put violence in her life forever.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
23. Rape Thing
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:47 PM
Nov 2012

John, when you;

1. Grow a uterus and start ovulating
2. Are a victim of a brutal rape

maybe, just maybe your opinion will carry weight.



Maybe women across this country should demand castration for all right wing male fanatics to avoid this 'rape thing'.

They appear to be the only group that is fixated on rape !!!!

They are speaking in code.

They do not believe a woman can be raped.

They think women are at fault if they are raped.

They think women are asking for it.

They think women enjoy it.

They think a woman's place in is the kitchen, pregnant and barefoot.

They don't believe women should work outside the home.

They don't believe a woman's work is valuable, or worth a fair wage.

They don't believe in birth control.

They want women to stay in a constant state of pregnancy.

They want full control over women in this country.


As a 59 year old female, I say NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will not give up the rights that we have fought for and won !!!!!!!!!!!



Don't have an abortion if you don't want one.

Don't use birth control if you don't want to.

Don't fight for equal pay.

Don't fight for equal rights.


DON'T expect the strong women of the United States of America to lie down and roll over when you start demanding we give up our rights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rock the vote ladies !!!!

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
26. What they are really doing is evoking the shame and terror of sexual assault.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 02:14 PM
Nov 2012

SHAME to al the gopmen who continue the shame and violence of rape/incest by defending them. Karma insists that they will become victims of the very terror they defend.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
24. NO, we don't know what you mean....
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:49 PM
Nov 2012

I don't anyway. These poetic musings on rape and child bearing are interesting in the abstract.... well maybe not interesting.... but when we have the REAL thing, a REAL rape and a REAL abortion are miles apart on the "violence".


And incest is COMMON! It's even in my upper middle class, country club members family.... and in plenty of people's families I know. It alas ain't rare.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
25. Tell that to the parents of the adopted child, that it was a product of violence and unwantedness,
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

when that child ends up with serious emotional problems and doesn't know why. (Sorry for the run-on sentence)

And incest is RARE?! REALLY?! One out of every 3 girls and one out of every 5 boys is sexually assaulted, mostly by FAMILY members or people they know!

These sexual abuse defenders (republican men) need to face their own dark realities/pasts, because they, without a doubt, are victims of sexual trauma who choose to revictimize instead of heal.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
28. If this is true; then that woman made a choice for hgerself and for
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:24 PM
Nov 2012

her life, not some right wing religious nuts.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
29. Would be true only if you're talking about a child.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:32 PM
Nov 2012

However, what's in the womb, is not a child. A fetus is not a child. You put a child in the womb, it dies. You take a fetus out of the womb, it dies. If they really thought the fetus were a child, the only rational thing to do would be rescue from that womb! That's a terrible-- no, a fatal-- environment for a child.

When a woman's choice is to abort you're not killing an innocent anything. You're preventing an eventual, unwanted child.

dangerdoll

(32 posts)
30. Incest is NOT "rare", and I can attest to it, you fuckwad.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:40 PM
Nov 2012

1 in 5, is the statistic - when it happened to me, and then later friends opened up to me about things that had happend to them...yeah. 1 in 5 sounds DEAD FUCKING ON.

This all goes right back to their mindset of "those lyin' bitches". How ANY woman, EVER, can profess to be Republican is beyond my comprehension.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
33. An 11 year old is a child too
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:21 PM
Nov 2012

They get raped and can conceive also. Force a CHILD, who has just experienced the worst trauma any female can endure, to accept that "gift" from your god? Would he tell that to his preteen daughter? Watch her belly swell with a rapist's baby who violated her and took her innocence away?

I had an 11 year old friend who was raped. She was in counseling from the rape alone for many years. When she was able to talk about it many years later, she told me that there would be no baby. She would have killed both herself and that rapist baby. She was just a child yet said she would have done just that. He doesn't think grown women wouldn't do the same? It WAS done in the past, either by their own hands, or in back alley abortions.

Women, and even young girls, will do want THEY want, not some men in DC.

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