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brooklynite

(94,827 posts)
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:27 PM Feb 2022

Truck convoy: City 'outnumbered,' says mayor; Protesters given Monday deadline to leave

Source: Ottawa Citizen

Mayor Jim Watson said on Sunday that the city was “outnumbered” and “losing the battle” against the truckers’ protest that had laid siege to the city for more than a week.

Speaking on CFRA radio Sunday morning, the mayor added that the protestors were “calling the shots.”

“The situation at this point is completely out of control, because the individuals with the protest are calling the shots. They have far more people than we have police officers, and I’ve indicated to the chief that we have to be much more nimble and proactive when it comes to these activities.”

Watson added, too, that he didn’t know when the protest might end.


Read more: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/truck-convoy-protesters-given-monday-deadline-to-leave-or-risk-inclusion-in-9-8-million-class-action-lawsuit
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Truck convoy: City 'outnumbered,' says mayor; Protesters given Monday deadline to leave (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2022 OP
So, tow away one truck at a time. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #1
Do you recall the reaction here to moving vehicles in the middle of a protest crowd.... brooklynite Feb 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Feb 2022 #12
these aren't protests, they are a RACIST OCCUPATION cadoman Feb 2022 #17
The target is Trudeau. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #32
Time to call in their national police, whatever that body is onetexan Feb 2022 #62
I bet the army has some industrial strength tow trucks, and artillery to go with it. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #18
The police are unwilling/unable, troops are needed to stop this anarchy. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #19
No, we are not. gristy Feb 2022 #20
Trucks are not protesters Hiawatha Pete Feb 2022 #37
Calling them protesters? That's a stretch. Maybe this is a form of.... paleotn Feb 2022 #41
"arresting protesters forcibly" , unless they agree to be arrested, lol. 58Sunliner Feb 2022 #57
Yeah, they lost privilege of calling themselves protesters Laha Feb 2022 #61
They could do it on a weekday late night early morning... reACTIONary Feb 2022 #21
yes, calling for semis to be towed is the exact same as speeding thru a crowd of protesters. uncle ray Feb 2022 #34
Bingo. Thanks for calling out the gross false equivalence. paleotn Feb 2022 #42
I saw where at least 1 towing company wouldn't tow any vehicle sdfernando Feb 2022 #4
sounds about right gristy Feb 2022 #11
Truckers removed tires so trucks can't be towed. cbabe Feb 2022 #33
problem solved gristy Feb 2022 #38
Please!!! Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #46
There are ways around that jmowreader Feb 2022 #53
Wow, Interesting! I just looked up photos of one these "babies". electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #58
Call someone else. Somebody wants the cash, I guarantee you. paleotn Feb 2022 #43
Every trucker should lose their license Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #45
Do you? Or do you just need someone who knows how to drive a truck? quakerboy Feb 2022 #55
Wow... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #2
Aerial mist Traildogbob Feb 2022 #5
Yo, Canucks. Take pictures of maskhole truckers and add to this website BlueWavePsych Feb 2022 #6
Nice Canadian Superspreader. All that's missing is trump SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #7
Christ-- what a mess. Mass delusion/mass psychosis LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #8
They are threatening citizens. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #23
Not only that but 2 convoyers tried to Arson a Residential building... electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #60
Well, you know what they say PlanetBev Feb 2022 #9
THis has zero to do with the US obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #31
Who do you think is financing this??? Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #47
confederate flags have everything to do with us. Merlot Feb 2022 #51
There are trucking convoys from the US in Canada womanofthehills Feb 2022 #54
Make the area one big no parking zone gristy Feb 2022 #10
Me too!! Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #48
I sure hope so! electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #59
Freedumb Convoy, Million Moron March godfree2 Feb 2022 #13
The whole thing is a Russian strategic op. The truck drivers are just "useful idiots" jmbar2 Feb 2022 #14
This was my first reaction, Putin's meddling as usual. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #24
Thanks for the links jmbar2 Feb 2022 #27
oops - spoke too soon jmbar2 Feb 2022 #29
This group isn't a bunch of progressives, they are nationalists and chauvinists. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #30
Russian strategic op, Alice Kramden Feb 2022 #49
Sounds like the class action suit is the best way to let this go--along with boycotts etc. Gore1FL Feb 2022 #15
Trudeau should have brought troops in a week ago. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #16
The police figured out they can issue tickets ... D'OH! L. Coyote Feb 2022 #22
If they won't leave, block them in. Gaugamela Feb 2022 #25
Thank you Gaugemela Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #50
A proper siege would do the trick indeed. No food, water, or fuel. Only bad smells, bright lights. Lucky Luciano Feb 2022 #52
Trumpism Has Been Exported To Canada DallasNE Feb 2022 #26
I said it before here Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #28
Thugs rockfordfile Feb 2022 #35
VIOLENCE IS STARTING. i am so sorry for the canadian people Trueblue1968 Feb 2022 #36
link? I'm not seeing it being reported. n/t gristy Feb 2022 #39
The convoy needs to be stopped. NOW. sakabatou Feb 2022 #40
Frankly, if it were we protesting against THEM, slightlv Feb 2022 #44
Talk. Radio. quakerboy Feb 2022 #56
They are causing harm to innocent people, so they should be arrested, jailed, convicted, and fined, Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2022 #63

brooklynite

(94,827 posts)
3. Do you recall the reaction here to moving vehicles in the middle of a protest crowd....
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:33 PM
Feb 2022

...back in the George Floyd days?

Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

cadoman

(792 posts)
17. these aren't protests, they are a RACIST OCCUPATION
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:30 PM
Feb 2022

They are literally occupying the city and have refused to leave until their demands of white patriarchy are met, when in fact the Canadian government isn't even involved (they should be protesting at the province level).

This is fucking MOB FASCISM against the duly elected Canadian government. We need the military involved stat or there could be hundreds or quite literally thousands of BIPOC and Jewish Canadians assaulted or dead from this foreign occupation.




As for communicable diseases, well they already likely have it and are slowly dying because they refused to mask or social distance, let alone vaccinate! The only question is how many vaccinated will now be infected due to their hateful irresponsibility.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
32. The target is Trudeau.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 03:52 PM
Feb 2022

Destabilizing the West and installing reactionaries is the Putin playbook. Putin does not like the West opposing his desire to rule the world.

onetexan

(13,073 posts)
62. Time to call in their national police, whatever that body is
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 07:24 AM
Feb 2022

This must be dealt with asap, as it w serve to be a model for other local fascist takeovers. Frightening.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,690 posts)
18. I bet the army has some industrial strength tow trucks, and artillery to go with it.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:31 PM
Feb 2022

Trudeau has allowed this anarchy and domestic terrorism to go on far too long.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
20. No, we are not.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:33 PM
Feb 2022

But vehicles illegally parked on city streets are routinely ticketed and often towed every day of the week all over the country, typically without incident. And anyone interfering with such lawful action is subject to citation and/or arrest.

Hiawatha Pete

(1,802 posts)
37. Trucks are not protesters
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 05:06 PM
Feb 2022

They are businesses. They can be sued.

If you want to protest, you do it on your own two feet without a 10 ton weapon / compensating toy to make your so-called "protest" look bigger than it is.

And:
- threatening to sexually assault a woman,
-Attacking a guy in a wheelchair ,
-being assaulted by so-called freedom fighters for taking pictures,
-Mobs forcing people to remove masks to get on the LRT,
-Mobs assaulting/tearing mask off seniors at bus stop,
-Mobs throwing rocks at ambulances and shouting racist slurs,
-Women at a local emergency shelter terrorized by the constant honking and angry men outside
-Staff and volunteers at a downtown shelter were threatened until they provided food to mob instead of homeless people,
-assaults on homeless people,
-racial slurs at Black personal support workers,
-Noise torture by constant horn blowing
and attempting a coup of our democratically elected parliament is not protesting.

It's domestic terrorism. Period.


paleotn

(17,990 posts)
41. Calling them protesters? That's a stretch. Maybe this is a form of....
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 06:40 PM
Feb 2022

rightwing "legitimate political discourse"?

Laha

(408 posts)
61. Yeah, they lost privilege of calling themselves protesters
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 07:06 AM
Feb 2022

When they started harassing and insulting health care workers and random passers-by on the street just because they were wearing masks, starting fires in buildings, and let's not forget -

Waving fucking NAZI flags around.

Fuck all of them. Even if they aren't holding the flag, they're walking shoulder to shoulder with nazis.

If you walk shoulder to shoulder with nazis, apologize for nazis, or support nazis in any way, you are a nazi. Period.

These people have revealed themselves.

reACTIONary

(5,789 posts)
21. They could do it on a weekday late night early morning...
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:42 PM
Feb 2022

.... if they can impound a few and hold them as evidence, the others might get the idea and behave with a bit more civility. Or just go home.

sdfernando

(4,947 posts)
4. I saw where at least 1 towing company wouldn't tow any vehicle
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:35 PM
Feb 2022

associated with the protest. In my opinion that company should lose their license.

For the big rigs you will need a special tow truck and there aren't that many. The towing trucks that would do it would need protection as well. Maybe they could use military resources? Not sure it that is possible, Canadian laws are different then in the U.S of course.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
11. sounds about right
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:04 PM
Feb 2022

According to the google, there are 11 towing companies in Ottawa, so 90% have not indicated any ambivalence to towing assholes. About the same percentage as those vaccinated in Canada.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
38. problem solved
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022

Flatbed tow truck - all towing companies have these.

But here's a really ingenious way. 60 seconds from pulling up to leaving with the car. Driver never has to leave the cab.

&ab_channel=J-GuideEntertainment

You could also bring in a wrecker and a big-ass dump truck.
Grab it by the roof and drop it in the dump truck.
But that might be a little extreme.

jmowreader

(50,569 posts)
53. There are ways around that
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:43 PM
Feb 2022

A Class 8 tractor weighs 17,000 pounds.

Most heavy equipment rental places have 30,000-pound forklifts, and you can get them equipped with 8-foot forks.

Bring in a few of these forklifts and some flatbed trailers being pulled by vaccinated drivers. Start loading trucks and hauling them away. I think you'll be surprised as to just how fast someone can put eighteen tires on a truck.

electric_blue68

(14,975 posts)
58. Wow, Interesting! I just looked up photos of one these "babies".
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 12:47 AM
Feb 2022

Last edited Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Woah I've seen photos of super tucks, super cranes, but not these till now.

paleotn

(17,990 posts)
43. Call someone else. Somebody wants the cash, I guarantee you.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 06:43 PM
Feb 2022

and this could be very, very lucrative. Towing a bobtail is a lot more expensive than towing car.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
45. Every trucker should lose their license
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 08:14 PM
Feb 2022

both driver's license, business license and insurance. This is not hard people!!

quakerboy

(13,923 posts)
55. Do you? Or do you just need someone who knows how to drive a truck?
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:56 PM
Feb 2022

I mean, Around my parts, trucks big and small go missing daily, no tow truck needed.

Traildogbob

(8,856 posts)
5. Aerial mist
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:38 PM
Feb 2022

Of a Delta Omicon variant over the assholes. Maybe drop body bags a dead anti Vaxxers from a Helo on them.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
7. Nice Canadian Superspreader. All that's missing is trump
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:46 PM
Feb 2022

what a bunch of canuk morons. Now that gofundme took away the money, I hope it costs them as much in money as it will in lives lost. Stupid.

electric_blue68

(14,975 posts)
60. Not only that but 2 convoyers tried to Arson a Residential building...
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:24 AM
Feb 2022

texts and photos on Twitter -

A building in some of the contral area being protested - 2 arsonists lit a package of firestarter bricks up in a (?inner) lobby of a building and taped the doors shut. There was wood paneling in some section.

Very Luckily a passerby came in and put out the fire!
Someone in the building was able to see the security footage. See a photo of one of them, other poster made the photo clearer 👍. Then fire, arson unit of Ottawa twitted they were going to look into it.
Get those fuckers!!!


(when I was young - mid teen our slum owning landlord - though we were in a middle class building - tried to set fire to the basement garbage ? 3 summers in a row....
Although I, usually savvy - my sis and I were talking about that awful landlord over ?25+ yrs later; she said those weren't just little fires the landlord was trying to commit arson)



PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
9. Well, you know what they say
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:58 PM
Feb 2022

When America sneezes, the rest of world catches cold. We showed a shitty example with all that “freedom” bullshit and helped poison our neighbors to the north.

womanofthehills

(8,795 posts)
54. There are trucking convoys from the US in Canada
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:56 PM
Feb 2022

Probably Trump supporters with the flags. I read the Canadian truckers confiscated the confederate flags.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
10. Make the area one big no parking zone
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:58 PM
Feb 2022

Tow violators one at a time. Have at least two cops with each tow truck, with video running. Arrest those interfering if possible. If not possible, at least their interference is then documented, and they can hopefully be arrested later. Those who can be identified, anyways.

I'm looking forward to seeing the first no-wheel truck dragged onto a flat-bed, hubs screeching.

jmbar2

(4,912 posts)
14. The whole thing is a Russian strategic op. The truck drivers are just "useful idiots"
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:21 PM
Feb 2022

Imagine if you could paralyze the supply/logistics chains of two allied nations, and kill off a bunch of unvaxxed truckers during a truck driver shortage. And those who survive can be turned against their own nations. Genius!

The whole op is funded by dark money, and involves shadowy extremists involved in separatist movement in Canada, and the Yellow Jackets in France.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/01/24/Truckers-Protesting-Vaccine-Mandates/

They are using old videos to create the impression that more truckers are coming to join than really are.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-truckers-video/fact-check-video-does-not-show-u-s-truckers-travelling-to-freedom-convoy-in-canada-idUSL1N2U63FX

My stock market discussion boards are being flooded by Russian disinformation trolls. They always show up in force when the market dips. Which it probably will in the next few days.

Russia is warring against us. And our citizens are too brainwashing to see they are being used.

Stay salty my friends...



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
24. This was my first reaction, Putin's meddling as usual.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:56 PM
Feb 2022

The Putin saga will not end well for Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.




jmbar2

(4,912 posts)
27. Thanks for the links
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 03:05 PM
Feb 2022

The letter from the Russian general is very interesting. Glad to see that there are some reasonable minds left over there.

jmbar2

(4,912 posts)
29. oops - spoke too soon
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 03:08 PM
Feb 2022

The letter is from an old Soviet website before they split up. Another Russian disinfo trick - post outdated, mislabeled information.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
30. This group isn't a bunch of progressives, they are nationalists and chauvinists.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 03:46 PM
Feb 2022

And they have been calling for Putin's resignation since they formed nearly two decades ago.


Gore1FL

(21,161 posts)
15. Sounds like the class action suit is the best way to let this go--along with boycotts etc.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:26 PM
Feb 2022

Certainly the city has reason to not award contracts, as well.

I don't know what, within the limits of Canadian and local laws the city can do to really affect anything meaningfully other than to make sure everyone remains safe (or as safe as a crowds of people protesting vaccines (excuse me, "vaccine *mandates*&quot can be.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
25. If they won't leave, block them in.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 02:57 PM
Feb 2022

Set up huge barricades so no one can get their trucks out. Surround them with police and troops and block all supplies from coming in. Drop leaflets telling them that their trucking licenses are suspended and their vehicles will be confiscated pending resolution in a court of law. Send in small drones with chemical irritants. Spray down from the rooftops a constant mist of stinky, oily water that makes their clothes stiff and stick to their skin. Once food supplies have dried up alternate smells of baking bread with rotting flesh. Jam all radio, internet, and cell phone frequencies in the area. Shut off water lines.

They want to be an obnoxious presence? Give it back to them. They can surrender at any time, but the longer they wait the worse the consequences.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,020 posts)
28. I said it before here
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 03:07 PM
Feb 2022

Declare the trucks contraband, shoot out the tires, and seize them (this will probably take a combined military/police force). Drain the fuel in the tanks. Arrest the drivers. Make them pay hefty fines to get their trucks back, plus fines for whatever the military/police action cost. Plus they'll have to pay for repairs to the tires and fill the tanks to get home. They might think twice before pulling this kind of stunt again.

Just quit fooling around, Trudeau!

slightlv

(2,852 posts)
44. Frankly, if it were we protesting against THEM,
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 07:38 PM
Feb 2022

don't you think they would have taken potshots at the fuel rigs rolling from truck to truck? Blowing them up? And how much more would have been shot up by now?

I wouldn't blame sleepless Canadians shooting out tires, rolling fuel rigs, front wind shields, and any "protestors" assaulting women and/or disabled individuals or minorities they saw. The fact they haven't at this point, only points to their better natures, IMNSHO!

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
63. They are causing harm to innocent people, so they should be arrested, jailed, convicted, and fined,
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 08:49 AM
Feb 2022

and their trucks should be confiscated and left in facilities where daily storage fees accrue.

I expect that the government will begin to energetically enforce laws soon, as these fascists prevent more and more citizens from obtaining food, medicine, medical care, emergency services, access to food, access to places of employment, etc

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