Rep. Cori Bush isn't backing down on "defund the police" slogan
Source: Axios
Why it matters: Progressives and that slogan specifically were blamed for Democratic losses in 2020. The 2022 midterms are even more challenging, yet Bush said during an hourlong conversation with Black reporters that she's sticking to her activist roots.
"I always tell [fellow Democrats], 'If you all had fixed this before I got here, I wouldnt have to say these things,'" she said.
Bush acknowledged her party needs to do a better job of explaining exactly what it means with its call to shift some law enforcement monies to preemptive social services.
Read more: https://www.axios.com/cori-bush-defund-police-2022-midterms-f78a07b5-40ae-42e2-ba0e-e50d205a1dd9.html
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)a losing strategy is not how you win elections.
Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is not the most brilliant move
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)WA-03 Democrat
(3,355 posts)Oh sorry, I forgot she is not a formal member of the social media pols.
bottomofthehill
(9,390 posts)You stick to what you thinks is best even though it is a stupid idea and a more stupid slogan. It is polling below 20 and on its way to single digits. It will though, be tied around the Democratic Partys neck. Thanks for the help holding the House. If you dont enjoy being in the majority and getting some of what you want, you really wont like being in the minority and getting nothing.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)In fact, it's kind of dumb.
bottomofthehill
(9,390 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)I shall do better and I'll go read the whole thing.
brush
(61,033 posts)And I read the post. See post 16.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)GoneOffShore
(18,021 posts)Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)Its the same with global warming.. most people dont take the time to read or educate themselves.. headlines only. The idea that police can be specialized n use resources to better the community is too much. Were used to bumper sticker ditties.. weve been dumbed down
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)When FDR developed Social Security, do you imagine that the average voter huddled over position papers and legislative drafts?
Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)I squawked n complained about my deductibles. I was not educated..it as a tax I did not understand. Thankfully, as I got older n understood that the pay forward idea was one I could understand n agree to. My point.. communication goes a long way to progress
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)When I got started in politics, I jumped into the deep end of the pool and became a Ward Committeeman in Philadelphia. My district was a bunch of dorms on the University of Pennsylvania campus, so 100% of my voters were Ivy League students. I assumed therefore that they would be thoughtfully informed on the issues of the day and the candidate choices.
Nope. I could have told them to vote for anyone, and most of them would have likely taken my guidance directly for any office below President.
Its not that they weren't smart, and COULDN'T research the issues and policy proposals; its that it wasn't important enough for them to take the time to do so. That doesn't mean they're lazy; it means they prioritize other activities with their available time.
Voting for elected officials goes back about 2,300 years at this point, and it exists because most citizens DON'T want to spend their time perusing the details of tax, social services and environmental policies. They want to delegate that responsibility to some who they feel BROADLY represents their opinions and interests. If you want to go back to them and gain their support for a specific policy, your message needs to be simple and concise.
Deuxcents
(26,915 posts)Never ran for any office so hats off. I did work the get out to vote. Many times in
My life.I tried to say bumper sticker ditties were not educational n that communication is the key. I think were on the same page
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,291 posts)then ask someone I consider a total idiot how they are going to vote -- and vote the opposite way.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)I remember that there were some articles about republicans cutting back on police funding and personnel.
Start emphasizing them.
Emphasize Bundy's sniper sighting in on LEO badges.
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Right wing militia says to kill the police.
Start about 3:40 on the timeline
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,867 posts)I personally support reforms to the police. I worked hard and we got a good Democrat elected as District Attorney in my county two years ago and this cycle we got a good man elected as sheriff of my county. Our new DA has made a tremendous amount of difference in my county and I believe that the new Sheriff will also help. However, it is clear that we lost races that we should not have lost Defund the police was used very effectively by the GOP in down ballot races. A good number of races that Democrats should have won were lost due to this issue.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
The GOP ran a ton of ads using this issue
Out of 31 broadcast TV ads that Trump and other allied campaign groups used to attack Biden and other Democrats for being soft on law and order, 11 spots ― that aired a total of 77,647 times ― explicitly mentioned defund the police, according to an analysis Kantar Media/CMAG conducted for HuffPost. And out of 216 Republican broadcast TV ads in congressional races blasting Democrats, 157 spots that aired 103,000 times used the phrase.
I was disappointed to seen Susan Collins re-elected. It seems that Collins was able to use the "defund the police" issue very effectively
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)L... A... Z... Y... just plain lazy. And dumb. D-U-M-B... it's completely DUMB!
She's basically admitting that she wants to make this about herself. She wants attention while she sabotages the hard work of the Democrats. I wonder if she'll be excoriated in the same way that Manchin and Senima have been (and will it even be allowed) as the sabotage continues.
It's a very selfish thing to do. S-e-l-f-i-s-h.
rogue emissary
(3,352 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)before she got to Washington, she wouldn't have to do it"...something to that effect. What a sad combination of egoism and stupidity to think it's all about her to fix things.
And to continue with a bad idea that costs Democrats votes makes one doubt her critical thinking skills. It just might cost her her seat in Congress too.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)betsuni
(29,078 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)mouth ever again as it's such a useful tool for republicans. And not to mention just stupid as it literally means no funds for police.
I repeat, IT MEANS NO FUNDS FOR POLICE. It doesn't mean re-allocate police funds. It doesn't mean get rid of bad cops. It doesn't mean get social workers involve in domestic issues. It doesn't mean train cops better. IT MEANS NO FUNDS FOR POLICE, which means NO POLICE. How dumb can you get. Even the farthest left person knows police are necessary in society.
Any one who doesn't understand how dumb that slogan is, which needs paragraphs of explaining, makes me question that person's critical thinking skills.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)Makes me wonder sometimes if these were invented and spread by saboteurs to destabilize the left.
brush
(61,033 posts)and anyone can go to street demonstrations. It's pretty well known much of the violence and destruction during the BLM summer demonstrations was instigated by white, agent provocateurs.
dameatball
(7,669 posts)double down on it. Yes, it was misconstrued, but the damage was done....still is being done.
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)My local Nextdoor always has multiple comments about the police being defunded when people share posts about stolen cars or break-ins or other neighborhood crimes. The blame for police not preventing theses crimes (when did they ever?) is that the police were defunded. They werent, but that is still the claim being made here.
The concept behind it may be good, but that phrase needs to never be uttered again.
Kahuna
(27,366 posts)to the republicans. Many of the squad doubled down after the 2020 elections regarding their condoning the phrase.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)And she looks very much like the rookie she is.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Friends living near your district used to like her a lot, but have soured on her. They said most-often, she opens her mouth without thinking. The friend said that was understandable in the beginning as a novice will make mistates and misspeak, but the same friend is now saying that she's continuing to keep her mouth open, but that now she's starting to insert her foot into it 🥴
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She's HURTING her cause and making it HARDER for Democrats and EASIER for Republicans.
That's just fucking stupid! I hope her replacement does a better job than she does.
Hav
(5,969 posts)it's knowingly doing something that harms the party. It simply is a killer for Dems. Just like the walk away campaign, it could just as well be propaganda coming from the Repubs or a Russian bot farm. Insisting on a slogan you acknowledge needs a better explanation instead of being pragmatic and actually going for specifics, tells me you care more about virtue signaling than the actual problems.
Defund the police isn't only a braindead approach for anyone with average intelligence. She should ask other important groups of the Dem tent, particularly poc, how they feel about this. It's stupid rhetoric like this that accelerates the gains Repubs make among these groups and that might doom the Democratic party.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... for the party. Apparently, there are those who openly advocate that as their goal. They literally want to "punish" the Democratic party and create situations that cause Democrats to lose. (Supposedly, by sabotaging elections and letting Republicans win, that's supposed to create "pressure" on the Democrats to swing far left. Or the other theory I've heard is that if Republicans are allowed to fuck things up even worse, then the voters will abandon the GOP and eagerly vote for ANY Democrat.)
So I wonder... does she want to be disruptive? OR, does she want to actually do the HARD WORK that's needed in order to make a difference? If she doesn't want to be a strong legislator (or if she's incapable) then it's clear to me that she's the wrong person for the job.
madville
(7,847 posts)With her its either Defund the Police or something anti-Israel, its like a broken record at this point and a disaster for 2022 messaging.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Vinca
(53,994 posts)sir pball
(5,340 posts)It leaves the door open for pretty much any reforms anyone wants to suggest, but at the same time doesn't suggest eliminating or defunding them.
But that's like, just my opinion, man.
George II
(67,782 posts)...but during their off-time.
That was against the policy of the Sheriff's Department and they both got fired.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....opposed to "defunding" the police. He reiterated that just a few days ago.
Calista241
(5,633 posts)Unswerving loyalty to the President and their agenda is what Republicans and Trump do. A bigger tent should be our goal, as that will allow us to defeat more Republicans in more places. There are limits of course, but blind loyalty is not what I want in my representatives.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)they object to her having a stupid and politically damaging policy view.
Mike Nelson
(10,943 posts)... someone tell her many voters don't explore exactly what she means - which I assume to mean "use funds wisely." People work all day, take care of kids and try to catch a little entertainment on TV. They hear "Defund the police!" from Democrats, alongside whatever crime has just occurred. We need to "Re-fund the police!", "Un-pack the court!" & use better three-word slogans!
StClone
(11,869 posts)But sadly, Trans, Black, Muslim, and Asian Americans now refrain from calling the police because police training often seems to make them, the true victim, the perp so they don't even bother calling the police.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...where Police policies and funding are actually addresses.
Oneironaut
(6,299 posts)Its not even what we want. Its about police accountability and how they are overused in all situations.
How hard is it to say, Police Reform Now! Defund the Police sounds like a moronic Anarchist slogan that turns people away.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)She's to his left.
brush
(61,033 posts)despite being asked to stop as it costs votes shows she's probably not the best person for the job.
LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)If you have to explain what it means, it's not a good slogan.
Jose Garcia
(3,506 posts)cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)Talk about not reading the room... Has she not noticed the various new democratic prosecutors furiously backpeddiling?
Polybius
(21,900 posts)Primary her.
Polybius
(21,900 posts)Nice woman, but she's way too far outside of the mainstream to be viable.