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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:47 PM Feb 2022

Investigators Find Gaps in White House Logs of Trump's Jan. 6 Calls

Source: NY Times

Sparse call records are the latest obstacle facing the House panel, which is trying to document what President Trump was doing during the attack on Congress.

WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol has discovered gaps in official White House telephone logs from the day of the riot, finding few records of calls by President Donald J. Trump from critical hours when investigators know that he was making them.

Investigators have not uncovered evidence that any official records were tampered with or deleted, and it is well known that Mr. Trump used his personal cellphone, and those of his aides, routinely to talk with aides, congressional allies and outside confidants.

But the sparse call records are the latest major obstacle to the panel’s central mission: recreating what Mr. Trump was doing behind closed doors during crucial moments of the assault on Congress by a mob of his supporters.

The panel is still awaiting additional material from the National Archives and Records Administration, which keeps the official White House logs

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/us/politics/jan-6-trump-calls.html



It's the cover-up, stupid. Here we go again, so Nixonian.





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Investigators Find Gaps in White House Logs of Trump's Jan. 6 Calls (Original Post) L. Coyote Feb 2022 OP
Flushed. milestogo Feb 2022 #1
Look for the area code for Moscow in the cloud. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #2
House Oversight asks Archives for information about Trump's handling of White House records LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #3
Gawd! Didn't HC get enormous backlash for using a private phone and server? pandr32 Feb 2022 #4
Good greif. she is a nonpenised human. Her jobs are to kowtow to the other group and efhmc Feb 2022 #12
Not only that, but she was on the level. pandr32 Feb 2022 #21
Really, did we doubt for a minute Marthe48 Feb 2022 #5
Subpoena his personal phone records Miguelito Loveless Feb 2022 #6
It's the ghost of Rose Mary Woods, I tell ya! Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #7
Not to worry because if any of those calls went to the rioters in and around the Capitol on 1/6/21.. Botany Feb 2022 #8
The Capitol has its own cellular phone system, so they possess all the logs. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #28
I think "they" have the time of the call, the length of the call, and the exact location of where... Botany Feb 2022 #34
Yes, phone numbers on both ends. A fair assumption is data collection began as the mob attacked L. Coyote Feb 2022 #35
I think they already know who was calling who. Botany Feb 2022 #37
And every phone number will be investigated to see if the person appears in any photos. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #38
As the attempted violent coup of 1/6/21 was going on TFG's lawyer told him that he should expect .. Botany Feb 2022 #39
#FailedCoupGuy's arerest is now just a matter of time. Drip, drip is now the daily deluge. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #40
Enough bs that this isn't a crime, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #9
Burner phones? Qutzupalotl Feb 2022 #10
The insurrection organizers were using burner phones, talking to Trump family. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #11
So Mr. Kremer are you ready to spend 20 years in prison for the Trump family? Botany Feb 2022 #13
Fat Nixon once again........... Bengus81 Feb 2022 #14
The gaps just happens to be on January 6! Emile Feb 2022 #15
Sandy Berger RETURNED ALL of the documents that he 'took home to study before a hearing on 911'.. TeamProg Feb 2022 #16
Check with the White House plumber and see what was retrieved that day. Vinca Feb 2022 #17
Funny! .. echoes of Watergate__________ n/t TeamProg Feb 2022 #20
Anyone here surprised? Anyone? ANYONE? oldsoftie Feb 2022 #18
It's obstruction of justice to attempt to hide White House activity. TeamProg Feb 2022 #19
He'll probably not get a jail diet behind bars nitpicker Feb 2022 #32
With the evidence mounting, I think DOJ only has one major question left to answer: Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #22
+1 Emile Feb 2022 #27
Now thinking outside the box... Dan Feb 2022 #29
Sorry, the most they could charge him with on that is obstructing a potential investigation nitpicker Feb 2022 #30
20 years sounds about right! Emile Feb 2022 #42
No surprise really. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #23
I'm sure there is a great explanation. He didn't mean to do anything wrong. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #24
There's always a record of phone calls on the main server of the phone co. right? Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #25
Rosemary Woods lives ... ificandream Feb 2022 #26
From the Nixon era? Emile Feb 2022 #33
Bingo!! ificandream Feb 2022 #43
18 minutes of missing tape NHvet Feb 2022 #31
Nixon's Attorney General went to jail. Let's hope that repeats too. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #36
I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! Martin68 Feb 2022 #41
K&R ck4829 Feb 2022 #44

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,129 posts)
3. House Oversight asks Archives for information about Trump's handling of White House records
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

TFG appears to have doctored or destroyed Presidential records. I note that the House Oversight committee is looking at the destruction of records. We can add this to the list of matters to be investigated.




The chairwoman of the House Oversight Committee is moving quickly on her promise to investigate Donald Trump’s handling of White House records on the heels of revelations that 15 boxes of materials were recovered from the former president’s Mar-a-Lago residence.

In a letter sent Wednesday to Archivist of the United States David S. Ferriero, Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) requested information “to examine the extent and impact” of Trump’s apparent violations of the Presidential Records Act, which requires the preservation of memos, letters, notes, emails, faxes and other written communications related to a president’s official duties.

The letter, provided to The Washington Post, asked for a detailed inventory of the contents of the recovered boxes, a description of records that Trump “destroyed or attempted to destroy” without the approval of the Archives, and whether the contents are undergoing a review to determine if they contain classified information. Maloney also asked whether "the Archivist has notified the Attorney General that former President Trump removed presidential records from the White House.”

“Removing or concealing government records is a criminal offense punishable by up to three years in prison,” Maloney wrote. “Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, for example, was prosecuted for taking classified documents from NARA. Former President Trump and his senior advisors must also be held accountable for any violations of the law.”

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
4. Gawd! Didn't HC get enormous backlash for using a private phone and server?
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:05 PM
Feb 2022

IT seems years ago now because of all we've endured since, but I seem to remember people howling about it. Even some on the left claimed she should have known better--she was careless. So...perfection was expected from her.

" it is well known that Mr. Trump used his personal cellphone, and those of his aides, routinely to talk with aides, congressional allies and outside confidants."

Where is the outrage? I don't hear a peep except from those of us who new TFG was a treason weasel.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
12. Good greif. she is a nonpenised human. Her jobs are to kowtow to the other group and
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:43 PM
Feb 2022

produce more of them.

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
5. Really, did we doubt for a minute
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:06 PM
Feb 2022

traitor wouldn't try to cover his trail of sedition and treason?

Unfortunately, there are way too many people involved in this attempted takeover of the U.S. It is not a secret that traitor tried to marshall the traitorous bastards among people living in this country. it is a shame that so many people hate the country that had given them so much more than they deserve.

I think that everyone who helped in anyway, from believing traitor's lies, to spreading them, to attacking the Capital, to encouraging people to deny the results of the election, to forging documents, to working from within the government to betray us should be deported. I don't care where. Just get them off our land. If that isn't feasible, make every single person who harbored ill-will toward this country sign a loyalty oath. Until they do, they enjoy no rights of American citizenship. I guess putin is exempted from the last.

By the way, does anyone else think flynn looks like mcveigh, only old?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
6. Subpoena his personal phone records
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:10 PM
Feb 2022

since there is more than enough evidence he used his personal phone for presidential business.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
8. Not to worry because if any of those calls went to the rioters in and around the Capitol on 1/6/21..
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:23 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)

.... "they" already have much of that information.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
28. The Capitol has its own cellular phone system, so they possess all the logs.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:49 PM
Feb 2022

Due to the tunnels and other dead zones, they created a cellular system that worked anywhere. Doubtless, they were gathering call info in real time as this happened.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
34. I think "they" have the time of the call, the length of the call, and the exact location of where...
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:40 PM
Feb 2022

... the caller was when he or she made the call. They might also have any texts, videos, emails, and
the phone # of where the call went to and so if that call went to the White House or some burner phone
they the FBI has that information.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
35. Yes, phone numbers on both ends. A fair assumption is data collection began as the mob attacked
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:49 PM
Feb 2022

the barricades, sweeping up every iota of information. Then the laborious process of getting to use that information, seeking the warrants, began.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
37. I think they already know who was calling who.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:53 PM
Feb 2022


And even if people used burner phones they will have those #s and they can trace
who sold the phone and good chance they will have pictures from video feeds at
the stores that sold the phones for cash.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
38. And every phone number will be investigated to see if the person appears in any photos.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:57 PM
Feb 2022

The total amount of available evidence is mind numbing.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
39. As the attempted violent coup of 1/6/21 was going on TFG's lawyer told him that he should expect ..
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 04:07 PM
Feb 2022

... be arrested. (or something like that) After that TFG called off the dogs.

I might be wrong but as Trump was watching the boodshed and violence on TV on 1/6/21 he or his people
were talking to the people inside the US Capitol.



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
40. #FailedCoupGuy's arerest is now just a matter of time. Drip, drip is now the daily deluge.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 04:11 PM
Feb 2022

Any morning now we should wake up to the largest single DoJ operation in US history.


gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
9. Enough bs that this isn't a crime,
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:26 PM
Feb 2022

first of all he removed classified documents, secondly, he did this to obstruct justice. Let's get moving DOJ.

Qutzupalotl

(14,302 posts)
10. Burner phones?
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:29 PM
Feb 2022

Just a thought. We know a few key players such as Jr. and Kushner were using them. Suppose TFG was using one too…is that why Jr. couldn't reach his father on Jan. 6, and had to ask that a message be relayed?

TeamProg

(6,117 posts)
16. Sandy Berger RETURNED ALL of the documents that he 'took home to study before a hearing on 911'..
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:08 PM
Feb 2022

Trump will not be able to return destroyed or flushed documents.

LOCK HIM UP !!

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
32. He'll probably not get a jail diet behind bars
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:10 PM
Feb 2022

Not hominy for breakfast, PB&J for lunch, baloney for dinner.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. With the evidence mounting, I think DOJ only has one major question left to answer:
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:19 PM
Feb 2022

Hanging or Firing Squad?

Dan

(3,550 posts)
29. Now thinking outside the box...
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:58 PM
Feb 2022

If Trump is charged (federal charges), since as president he was acting as Commander in Chief, then why can’t the military charge him? Let him face a military tribunal - don’t have to worry about MAGA types - and a military court can give him the death penalty.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
25. There's always a record of phone calls on the main server of the phone co. right?
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:28 PM
Feb 2022

I so want to know there's a permanent record, somewhere.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
36. Nixon's Attorney General went to jail. Let's hope that repeats too.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:51 PM
Feb 2022

The big mistake of Watergate was allowing Nixon to get away scott free.

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