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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:29 AM Feb 2022

Police prepare to face truckers on Ontario bridge.

Source: New York Times

Canadian police moved in Saturday morning to clear protesters at a vital bridge in Windsor Ontario connecting Canada and the United States. As the authorities began what appeared to be an operation to clear the crossing, on the other side of the Atlantic, in Paris, the police fired tear gas at demonstrators blocking traffic on the Champs-lyses at a copycat protest. The Windsor Police wrote on Twitter Saturday morning that "The Windsor Police & its policing partners have commenced enforcement at and near the Ambassador Bridge." It added: "We urge all demonstrators to act lawfully & peacefully."

Police officers were standing in a line not far from the protesters on Saturday morning. Protesters were seen dismantling the tent where they keep food and supplies. Some of the protesters blared their horns. Automakers have been particularly affected by the partial shutdown of the Ambassador Bridge, which normally carries $300 million worth of goods a day, about a third of which are related to the auto industry. The blockades have left carmakers short of crucial parts, forcing companies to shut down some plants from Ontario to Alabama on Friday. The court order calling for protesters to disband or face stiff fines or prison went into effect on Friday at 7 p.m, and the numbers of protesters had since thinned.

But on Saturday morning, dozens of protesters, some dressed in fluorescent construction garb, had still refused to leave, and were milling around at an intersection before the bridge, drinking coffee and holding up Canadian flags. Other protesters remained in their pickup trucks, their engines idling, to stay warm. As Canada enters the third weekend of a crisis that has brought thousands of protesters into the streets of its capital and disrupted international supply chains, officials are turning to harsher measures to try to restore order.

The prime minister and the premier of Ontario both warned on Friday that the demonstrators would face up to 100,000 dollars in fines and a year in prison if they did not disperse voluntarily. In addition to taking over blocks of downtown Ottawa, protesters -- many of them truck drivers angry about vaccination requirements to enter Canada from the United States -- have blockaded several border crossings, including the Ambassador Bridge, which connects Windsor, Ontario, to Detroit and carries a third of U.S.-Canada trade.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/12/world/canada-protest-trudeau/police-begin-standoff-with-truckers-on-ontario-bridge



Some updates -

Police move in on Ambassador Bridge blockade after injunction deadline passes


Mark Gollom · CBC News · Posted: Feb 12, 2022 4:25 AM ET | Last Updated: 18 minutes ago


Police have moved in to break up a days-long protest at the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor, Ont., where vehicles have been blocking traffic on the crucial border crossing into the U.S.

"We urge all demonstrators to act lawfully and peacefully," Windsor police said in a tweet as officers started to move in with other law enforcement at about 8:30 a.m. on Saturday.

They also advised people to stay away from the area.

While some protesters left immediately, a handful remained as of 10 a.m. Police formed a line and were steadily pushing back the demonstrators, some of whom were shouting "shame," "freedom" and "you're on the wrong side."

(snip)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/protesters-ambassador-bridge-windsor-covid-deadline-1.6349424


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Thomas Daigle
@thomasdaigle
Despite the police surrounding them and slowly moving closer, a few dozen Windsor protesters are still just standing around, vowing to “hold the line”
8:54 AM · Feb 12, 2022





Katerina Georgieva
@KatGeorgieva
8:17 AM · Feb 12, 2022



Earlier -




[div class"excerpt"]Windsor Police
@WindsorPolice
The Windsor Police & its policing partners have commenced enforcement at and near the Ambassador Bridge. We urge all demonstrators to act lawfully & peacefully. Commuters are still being asked to avoid the areas affected by the demonstrations at this time.
8:18 AM · Feb 12, 2022
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Police prepare to face truckers on Ontario bridge. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 OP
Very dangerous work ahead. The Grand Illuminist Feb 2022 #1
It's not a trucker protest. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #2
All dressed up to look like a trucker protest. 2naSalit Feb 2022 #12
We need to start calling this the pretend truckers protest. nt yaesu Feb 2022 #19
Yes, but... BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #21
Exactly pandr32 Feb 2022 #35
What message does it send with no arrests? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #3
???? BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #4
Who says there will be no arrests? Your ESP is not reliable. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #9
They put up with this for 3 weeks? SheltieLover Feb 2022 #6
Days not weeks. Windsor is not Ottawa. As far apart as Los Angeles and San Francisco. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #11
Seems most of them have "fled" BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #26
Ya I'll bet they fled SheltieLover Feb 2022 #29
That's what the astroturf "protests" are designed to do. BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #30
Yup SheltieLover Feb 2022 #32
They are terrorists The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #7
Just so Farther Feb 2022 #24
I'm watching CNN and most of the truckers have left. BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #8
Premier Ford was hiding for two weeks. Polls show he loses election ground when he opens his mouth Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #10
Tempted to say "it's about time", but laws in Canada are different than those in the US... George II Feb 2022 #13
I just added an update to the OP BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #14
Yes, I saw that on the news. But rest assured the police/authorities have documented every single... George II Feb 2022 #15
I think many of the "trucks" were personal pickups too BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #16
What I've found hysterical (or suspicious) was all the "Don't Tread On Me" flags.... George II Feb 2022 #17
See that makes you wonder how many Michiganders BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #18
You are right about that pandr32 Feb 2022 #36
Good. Examples to make. paleotn Feb 2022 #23
I wouldn't be surprised if some were astroturf American citizens BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #25
Word is, much of their leadership and funding is American. paleotn Feb 2022 #27
Yes. Occupiers want Trudeau to invoke Emergencies Act so they can fundraise on it for decades Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #22
The first rule of trucking should be: Don't play chicken when facing a bigger truck. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2022 #20
Apparently the pickups have been "the protest trucks" BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #28
Any idea why there's nothing much heard from the Bluewater Bridge? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2022 #33
I love watching orangecrush Feb 2022 #31
these Russian patsies are about to get Tiananmen'd cadoman Feb 2022 #37
... orangecrush Feb 2022 #39
I'm not sure I can endorse this new legal maneuver, because it's very heavy-handed. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #34
for this to work, Canada needs to pursue policies to replace the drivers cadoman Feb 2022 #38

2naSalit

(102,803 posts)
12. All dressed up to look like a trucker protest.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:36 AM
Feb 2022

There arent that many actual trucks involved. It's just that the media focus on them so that's all you see. Part of that is because the trucks are commercial vehicles where the others are private and some avoid showing those though they should since they are out there to be seen.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
21. Yes, but...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:18 PM
Feb 2022

Not just American Oligarchs… there is laundered dark money from Russia and China as well. Their goal is to destroy democracy globally.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
35. Exactly
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:30 PM
Feb 2022

It's not about vaccines, but to usher in unregulated capitalism which would completely ruin our Western society.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

SheltieLover

(80,486 posts)
6. They put up with this for 3 weeks?
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 10:49 AM
Feb 2022

Boggles the mind.

I hope Canadian judges do a much better job of handing out harsh penalties than have our US jydges.

Thx for posting!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
11. Days not weeks. Windsor is not Ottawa. As far apart as Los Angeles and San Francisco. . . . nt
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:31 AM
Feb 2022

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
26. Seems most of them have "fled"
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:48 PM
Feb 2022

leaving a few "hard core" dumbasses who want 15 minutes of fame.

SheltieLover

(80,486 posts)
29. Ya I'll bet they fled
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:07 PM
Feb 2022

And consumers are again left holding the bag for corporate losses & lawyers, police, etc.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
7. They are terrorists
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:03 AM
Feb 2022

These fascists have been displaying nazi flags and treasonous confederate flags. Their goal is insurrection.
They are terrorists and we do not allow known terrorist into the USA.
Get their identification and ban them from crossing the border.
Maybe we need a wall . Clearly Canada is not sending their best,

Farther

(156 posts)
24. Just so
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:39 PM
Feb 2022

And yet, while I watched a livestream from the bridge last night, someone was blasting "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" of all things. Apparently their revolution will be filled with a grotesque irony.

BigmanPigman

(55,160 posts)
8. I'm watching CNN and most of the truckers have left.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:05 AM
Feb 2022

Only a few are left and no arrests have been made so far. Too bad this wasn't able to happen earlier.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
10. Premier Ford was hiding for two weeks. Polls show he loses election ground when he opens his mouth
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:28 AM
Feb 2022

Although Windsor is not Ottawa, Ford has only mouthed platitudes about the Ottawa occupation. Both are in his province and he has greatest jurisdiction over roadways.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Tempted to say "it's about time", but laws in Canada are different than those in the US...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:54 AM
Feb 2022

I've seen a lot of posts saying they should call up the National Guard to break up the protests. Truth is, Canada does NOT have a National Guard, and Michigan can't just send their National Guard over to Windsor to break them up - that would be an invasion.

Anyway, thankfully they've exercised all legal remedies and are now moving in. I hope many of them are jailed and their trucks seized or their licenses suspended / cancelled.

Sad thing is poor Trudeau is being bashed by the far right and far left for doing nothing, even though there has been little he can do.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
14. I just added an update to the OP
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 11:58 AM
Feb 2022

Apparently many of them have left or are leaving but you have the handful at various locations who are tempting fate.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Yes, I saw that on the news. But rest assured the police/authorities have documented every single...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:01 PM
Feb 2022

....truck that has been involved.

They can run but they can't hide. I really hope they follow up on these lawbreakers.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
16. I think many of the "trucks" were personal pickups too
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:06 PM
Feb 2022

and they were most likely not "truckers" but RW loons.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. What I've found hysterical (or suspicious) was all the "Don't Tread On Me" flags....
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022

Isn't that an American thing? But, thankfully, I didn't see any confederate flags like we do down here.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
18. See that makes you wonder how many Michiganders
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:12 PM
Feb 2022

ran across the border (through the tunnel) to "join in".

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
36. You are right about that
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:37 PM
Feb 2022

The stragglers who got sucked in to the cause and feel like patriots.
By the way, your "R W loons" remark is so appropriate for a Canadian right-winger. Loons are the chosen symbols on one and two-dollar coins. People call the $1 coins 'loonies' and the $2 ones 'two-nies'!

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
25. I wouldn't be surprised if some were astroturf American citizens
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:46 PM
Feb 2022

(e.g., Michigan "militia" loons) who crossed the border to roll their fake outrage stuff out...

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
27. Word is, much of their leadership and funding is American.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:00 PM
Feb 2022

Couldn't do this to this extent and for this long in the US. They would have been arrested a week ago.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
22. Yes. Occupiers want Trudeau to invoke Emergencies Act so they can fundraise on it for decades
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 12:29 PM
Feb 2022

So of course the CONservatives are calling him weak in an attempt to provoke him into using it so that they can then condemn it. Notice that they don't mention it by name, so that they can say "We wanted action, but not THAT!"

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
28. Apparently the pickups have been "the protest trucks"
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

and when the police arrived, most of them left.

I expect the media shots of the many "big rigs" in the area, insinuating they were participating in the protests, were actually legit truckers trying to haul and not actually part of any "protest", and were stuck in the traffic snafu.

I have seen the Ambassador bridge from Detroit (at the entry port) and the line of trucks on it is never-ending to say the least, in normal times. But all the border crossings are like that with the trucks - whether it's the Peace Bridge in Niagara Falls, NY or the Peace Arch in Blaine, WA.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
37. these Russian patsies are about to get Tiananmen'd
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:46 PM
Feb 2022

And I'm gonna be laughing every second.



Sorry folks, your freedumbs don't entitle you to block roads or prevent normal order of business. And you certainly don't just get to occupy a city on a whim.

You also can't petition to address grievances when everything the government is doing is to protect you. Maybe you should try thanking your government and supporting her, for a change?

And as always, shout out to Justin Trudeau. He has done so much to address the systemic racism and hate in his country and apparently there is just a lot more work to do than anyone ever imagined.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
34. I'm not sure I can endorse this new legal maneuver, because it's very heavy-handed.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:20 PM
Feb 2022

OTOH, this logjam of militant idiots has to end. The Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford - the brother of the late Toronto mayor who, among other things, admitted to smoking crack - has brought in legislation that is aimed squarely at the truckers.

At the extreme end of the penalty scale, refusing to unjam the Ambassador Bridge and the city of Ottawa can result in a $100,000 fine, a year in jail and loss of the offender's commercial driver's license. I'm not sure how that last item will be enforced, because many, if not most, of the truckers are from other provinces.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
38. for this to work, Canada needs to pursue policies to replace the drivers
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 01:54 PM
Feb 2022

Fact: we are short on drivers.

Fact: As long as we are short on drivers, the truckers have leverage and render policy to arrest them ineffective.

Thus, by order of operations, the first thing that must be done is to increase number of available drivers. I propose that by executive order, Ford should allow regular license holders and military service members to drive trucks, and facilitate that through one week of rapid training. If there are not enough people to fill in, the immigration backlog should be examined for anyone with valid drivers licenses and they should be brought over immediately.

Imagine all these dumb rednecks being replaced with democracy loving immigrants in the span of a few weeks? We could turn this into a mass, indefinite detention of the most deplorable elements of society if we play our cards right. But until the replacement drivers are in place, nothing like that can happen.

Replacement drivers are critical.

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