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Polybius

(15,507 posts)
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:17 PM Feb 2022

Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio teamed up on a bill to block government funds from being used to give ou

Source: Business Insider

Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio teamed up on a bill to block government funds from being used to give out crack pipes

Sens. Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio introduced a bipartisan bill on Friday that would block federal funds from being used to buy and distribute tools used to take drugs, like crack pipes and syringes.

The Preventing Illicit Paraphernalia for Exchange Systems Act, or PIPES Act, was announced by Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia, and Rubio, a Republican from Florida, in a press release.

"Every American and West Virginian has been impacted by the drug epidemic that has killed over 101,000 Americans from April 2020 to April 2021," Manchin said. "While this is a heartbreaking issue that must be fully addressed by the federal government, using taxpayer funds to buy paraphernalia for those struggling with substance use disorder is not the solution."

"Everyone knows someone who has struggled with addiction, and unfortunately, many have lost a loved one from the disease," Rubio said, adding: "We need to do more, but sending drug paraphernalia to addicts is not the answer."

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/manchin-rubio-bill-to-block-government-from-buying-crack-pipes-2022-2

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Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio teamed up on a bill to block government funds from being used to give ou (Original Post) Polybius Feb 2022 OP
We seriously use tax payer money to give out crack pipes? jimfields33 Feb 2022 #1
People who read the article BEFORE posting speculation look less foolish. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #2
That's why I hoped it was sarcasm. Obviously it is since the pipe is not jimfields33 Feb 2022 #8
It obviously is NOT sarcasm. Read the article. Rubio is serious. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #10
As is Manchin n/t Polybius Feb 2022 #15
So true left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #27
no, but there are kits for 'safe smoking' mopinko Feb 2022 #3
No, its GOP/putin propaganda being reported by fox news, newsmax & other russian news services nt yaesu Feb 2022 #5
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #18
Precisely. There is no plan to give out free crack pipes, and the White House has denied it.... George II Feb 2022 #28
So wait, I won't be able to stock up on free crack pipes before this bill is passed? ColinC Feb 2022 #32
They are not. It's "safe smoking kits" to improve hygiene for recovering drug users. forgotmylogin Feb 2022 #6
Once again, ignoring the real problem. Democrats drinking baby's blood. Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #4
Yup, + is distraction fr Rubio's constant idiocy, at least the more blatant bits that get into media Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #9
I'm surprised Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't claiming Jewish space lasers are lighting crack pipes yaesu Feb 2022 #31
Law & Order absolutists don't believe in harm reduction. They coddle orange RepubliQonners Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #7
Hey, Joey. . .if you legalize them, heavily regulate and tax them, get them out of the hands of AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #11
You might want to edit your accusation about Business Insider: George II Feb 2022 #21
Not when I had a subscription. Maybe it changed, but not when I was reading it. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #23
+1 Deminpenn Feb 2022 #35
On one hand: hard-hitting solution to major drug issue. Other: economy sinker. mpcamb Feb 2022 #12
so these two dickweeds are experts on the subject now.... bahboo Feb 2022 #13
usually known as - Beavis & Butt -head ! monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #36
I do wish Manchin would put that kind of energy into passing real legislation like voting rights. yaesu Feb 2022 #14
Faux Noise propaganda. We should expect better from Joe Manchin. Eugene Feb 2022 #16
Joe Manchin is trash. So is his staff. Raine1967 Feb 2022 #17
When fact is fiction and TV reality underpants Feb 2022 #19
Are crack pipes expensive? jalan48 Feb 2022 #20
I remember... Mike Nelson Feb 2022 #22
How stupid can two idiot senators get SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #24
What about bongs? n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #25
Good Question!! LOL blue-wave Feb 2022 #30
Maybe they could team up with Mike Lindell Blue Owl Feb 2022 #26
So Manchin is sponsoring a bill that blue-wave Feb 2022 #29
The feds WERE going to put crack pipes in the kits, until they realized --- 70sEraVet Feb 2022 #33
wasn't that Jared's shell company ? can't remember ? monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #37
Isn't it nice they can get together for something that doesn't exist? Vinca Feb 2022 #34
Block funds to distribute syringes? NickB79 Feb 2022 #38

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
27. So true
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:09 PM
Feb 2022

So many times I've had people comment on my threads after reading only the Title.

When I reply that '_____' is covered in the OP or linked article,
they tell me they didn't read it;
just read the Title.

mopinko

(70,265 posts)
3. no, but there are kits for 'safe smoking'
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:22 PM
Feb 2022

not the pipes, but a rubber tip to prevent burns, and cleaning supplies, screens, etc.
all aimed at preventing hepatitis and hiv transmission.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. Precisely. There is no plan to give out free crack pipes, and the White House has denied it....
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:19 PM
Feb 2022

This bill addressed nothing in reality.

forgotmylogin

(7,538 posts)
6. They are not. It's "safe smoking kits" to improve hygiene for recovering drug users.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:23 PM
Feb 2022

Similar to a clean needle exchange. This is red meat for the base.

Fact Check- U.S. government officials did not say crack pipes would be distributed in safer drug kits

Confusion circulated on social media in February 2022 as to whether the Biden Administration would distribute crack pipes as part of safer drug kits. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the White House Press Secretary, Jen Psaki, both said they never mentioned that pipes would be included.

An article ( archive.is/iVqPa ) published by The Washington Free Beacon appears to be the catalyst for the claims ( here ), ( here ), that HHS was providing $30 million in grant funding (which would include for pipes) to non-profits and local governments to help make drug use safer for people with drug addictions.

On Feb. 7, Washington Free Beacon reported ( archive.is/iVqPa ) that a spokesman for HHS said the kits “will provide pipes for users to smoke crack cocaine, crystal methamphetamine, and “any illicit substance”.

The Biden Administration, however, publicly refuted the claim. During the Feb. 9 White House Press Briefing ( here ), Psaki responded to a journalist’s question (see 10:47 mark) about the existence of crack pipes inside “safe smoking kits” funded by the administration, saying, “they were never a part of the kit, it was inaccurate reporting”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-crackpipes-government/fact-check-u-s-government-officials-did-not-say-crack-pipes-would-be-distributed-in-safer-drug-kits-idUSL1N2UM2KF

Midnight Writer

(21,816 posts)
4. Once again, ignoring the real problem. Democrats drinking baby's blood.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:23 PM
Feb 2022

I bet they are touting this "accomplishment" in their fundraising letters.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
7. Law & Order absolutists don't believe in harm reduction. They coddle orange RepubliQonners
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:24 PM
Feb 2022

If they really wanted to reduce drug addiction they would relax restrictions, not make life more difficult for people. Also they would send Junior to rehab.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,789 posts)
11. Hey, Joey. . .if you legalize them, heavily regulate and tax them, get them out of the hands of
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:29 PM
Feb 2022

cartels and street pushers, and remove the stigma of it. . .watch what happens.

PROHIBITION IS NOT WORK!!!

Drugs have been part of civilization since the beginning, as has alcohol, prostitution, and all vice "crimes."

BTW, Business Insider is a right wing rag, as are most business oriented waste of trees and time.

Even though I teach economics, it's the biggest reason I canceled my subscriptions to it and Barrons years ago. I won't even read the Murdoch Street Journal.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. You might want to edit your accusation about Business Insider:
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:09 PM
Feb 2022
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/business-insider/



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Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
35. +1
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:54 AM
Feb 2022

Drugs should be aafe, legal, regulated and taxed. That's the lesson of Prohibition that needs to be learned again.

mpcamb

(2,878 posts)
12. On one hand: hard-hitting solution to major drug issue. Other: economy sinker.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:30 PM
Feb 2022

Sarcasm thingy

What a horse-shit waste of ink!
Is there any level Joe Manchin wouldn't stoop to to find a headline?

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
14. I do wish Manchin would put that kind of energy into passing real legislation like voting rights.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:30 PM
Feb 2022

but maybe that GOP crack is just too damn addicting.

Eugene

(61,964 posts)
16. Faux Noise propaganda. We should expect better from Joe Manchin.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:52 PM
Feb 2022

The crack pipe canard has been fact checked all the way to hell.

No surprise that a Trump boot licker like Rubio would support this bulls**t, but come on Joe, check the facts before attacking your own side.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
17. Joe Manchin is trash. So is his staff.
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:54 PM
Feb 2022

There is no way in the effing world that either of these Senators believes that this is nothing more than an effing performative stunt.

They have staff that knows exactly what is happening and yet their staffs are now just another branch of fundraising. Rubio and Manchin are disgusting.





underpants

(182,941 posts)
19. When fact is fiction and TV reality
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:55 PM
Feb 2022

U2 wrote that 40 years ago I think.


Complete made up bullshit that is now considered the truth.

Mike Nelson

(9,971 posts)
22. I remember...
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:11 PM
Feb 2022

... this type of story long ago, maybe during the AIDS era. "Clean needles" were given to drug users. Republicans use the stories to make Democrats look bad... another version was Democrats are giving condoms out in schools! There are logical reasons to consider doing these things, but most people do not go beyond the lurid headlines... All of this stuff sticks to the minds of viewers and readers, sadly...

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
24. How stupid can two idiot senators get
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:28 PM
Feb 2022

We are on the brink of a fascist takeover and dismantling of our system of democracy and those two assholes just care about crack pipes?

Blue Owl

(50,523 posts)
26. Maybe they could team up with Mike Lindell
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:09 PM
Feb 2022

Send Mike Lindell your crack pipe and get a free MyPillow!

blue-wave

(4,367 posts)
29. So Manchin is sponsoring a bill that
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:26 PM
Feb 2022

furthers a right wing false narrative?

Sounds to me as he is the one smoking crack out of pipes along with Marco and the rest of the right wing.

70sEraVet

(3,522 posts)
33. The feds WERE going to put crack pipes in the kits, until they realized ---
Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:48 PM
Feb 2022

that Don Jr. and Eric had already gone through the whole Federal Strategic Crack Pipe Reserve!!!!
(Joke).

Vinca

(50,314 posts)
34. Isn't it nice they can get together for something that doesn't exist?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:52 AM
Feb 2022

Meanwhile, back in the real world, their beloved law enforcement officers are being picked off like ducks in a shooting gallery. Maybe they should be working on getting the glut of guns under control. You know. Something productive.

NickB79

(19,274 posts)
38. Block funds to distribute syringes?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:30 AM
Feb 2022

Even Mike Pence enacted a needle exchange after HIV tore through this state.

Needle exchanges save lives, because an addict will use a dirty needle.

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