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Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio teamed up on a bill to block government funds from being used to give ou

Source: Business Insider

Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio teamed up on a bill to block government funds from being used to give out crack pipes

Sens. Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio introduced a bipartisan bill on Friday that would block federal funds from being used to buy and distribute tools used to take drugs, like crack pipes and syringes.

The Preventing Illicit Paraphernalia for Exchange Systems Act, or PIPES Act, was announced by Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia, and Rubio, a Republican from Florida, in a press release.

"Every American and West Virginian has been impacted by the drug epidemic that has killed over 101,000 Americans from April 2020 to April 2021," Manchin said. "While this is a heartbreaking issue that must be fully addressed by the federal government, using taxpayer funds to buy paraphernalia for those struggling with substance use disorder is not the solution."

"Everyone knows someone who has struggled with addiction, and unfortunately, many have lost a loved one from the disease," Rubio said, adding: "We need to do more, but sending drug paraphernalia to addicts is not the answer."

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/manchin-rubio-bill-to-block-government-from-buying-crack-pipes-2022-2

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Reply Joe Manchin and Marco Rubio teamed up on a bill to block government funds from being used to give ou (Original post)
Polybius Feb 2022 OP
jimfields33 Feb 2022 #1
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #2
jimfields33 Feb 2022 #8
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #10
Polybius Feb 2022 #15
left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #27
mopinko Feb 2022 #3
yaesu Feb 2022 #5
LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #18
George II Feb 2022 #28
ColinC Feb 2022 #32
forgotmylogin Feb 2022 #6
Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #9
yaesu Feb 2022 #31
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #7
AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #11
George II Feb 2022 #21
AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #23
Deminpenn Feb 2022 #35
mpcamb Feb 2022 #12
bahboo Feb 2022 #13
monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #36
yaesu Feb 2022 #14
Eugene Feb 2022 #16
Raine1967 Feb 2022 #17
underpants Feb 2022 #19
jalan48 Feb 2022 #20
Mike Nelson Feb 2022 #22
SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #24
PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #25
blue-wave Feb 2022 #30
Blue Owl Feb 2022 #26
blue-wave Feb 2022 #29
70sEraVet Feb 2022 #33
monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #37
Vinca Feb 2022 #34
NickB79 Feb 2022 #38

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:19 PM

1. We seriously use tax payer money to give out crack pipes?

Has to be sarcasm.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:22 PM

2. People who read the article BEFORE posting speculation look less foolish. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:26 PM

8. That's why I hoped it was sarcasm. Obviously it is since the pipe is not

included in the crack package.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:27 PM

10. It obviously is NOT sarcasm. Read the article. Rubio is serious. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:34 PM

15. As is Manchin n/t

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:09 PM

27. So true

So many times I've had people comment on my threads after reading only the Title.

When I reply that '_____' is covered in the OP or linked article,
they tell me they didn't read it;
just read the Title.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:22 PM

3. no, but there are kits for 'safe smoking'

not the pipes, but a rubber tip to prevent burns, and cleaning supplies, screens, etc.
all aimed at preventing hepatitis and hiv transmission.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:23 PM

5. No, its GOP/putin propaganda being reported by fox news, newsmax & other russian news services nt

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Response to yaesu (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:55 PM

18. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to yaesu (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:19 PM

28. Precisely. There is no plan to give out free crack pipes, and the White House has denied it....

This bill addressed nothing in reality.

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Response to George II (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 08:13 PM

32. So wait, I won't be able to stock up on free crack pipes before this bill is passed?

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:23 PM

6. They are not. It's "safe smoking kits" to improve hygiene for recovering drug users.

Similar to a clean needle exchange. This is red meat for the base.

Fact Check- U.S. government officials did not say crack pipes would be distributed in safer drug kits

Confusion circulated on social media in February 2022 as to whether the Biden Administration would distribute crack pipes as part of safer drug kits. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the White House Press Secretary, Jen Psaki, both said they never mentioned that pipes would be included.

An article ( archive.is/iVqPa ) published by The Washington Free Beacon appears to be the catalyst for the claims ( here ), ( here ), that HHS was providing $30 million in grant funding (which would include for pipes) to non-profits and local governments to help make drug use safer for people with drug addictions.

On Feb. 7, Washington Free Beacon reported ( archive.is/iVqPa ) that a spokesman for HHS said the kits “will provide pipes for users to smoke crack cocaine, crystal methamphetamine, and “any illicit substance”.

The Biden Administration, however, publicly refuted the claim. During the Feb. 9 White House Press Briefing ( here ), Psaki responded to a journalist’s question (see 10:47 mark) about the existence of crack pipes inside “safe smoking kits” funded by the administration, saying, “they were never a part of the kit, it was inaccurate reporting”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-crackpipes-government/fact-check-u-s-government-officials-did-not-say-crack-pipes-would-be-distributed-in-safer-drug-kits-idUSL1N2UM2KF

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:23 PM

4. Once again, ignoring the real problem. Democrats drinking baby's blood.

I bet they are touting this "accomplishment" in their fundraising letters.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:26 PM

9. Yup, + is distraction fr Rubio's constant idiocy, at least the more blatant bits that get into media

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 06:25 PM

31. I'm surprised Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't claiming Jewish space lasers are lighting crack pipes

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:24 PM

7. Law & Order absolutists don't believe in harm reduction. They coddle orange RepubliQonners


If they really wanted to reduce drug addiction they would relax restrictions, not make life more difficult for people. Also they would send Junior to rehab.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:29 PM

11. Hey, Joey. . .if you legalize them, heavily regulate and tax them, get them out of the hands of

cartels and street pushers, and remove the stigma of it. . .watch what happens.

PROHIBITION IS NOT WORK!!!

Drugs have been part of civilization since the beginning, as has alcohol, prostitution, and all vice "crimes."

BTW, Business Insider is a right wing rag, as are most business oriented waste of trees and time.

Even though I teach economics, it's the biggest reason I canceled my subscriptions to it and Barrons years ago. I won't even read the Murdoch Street Journal.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:09 PM

21. You might want to edit your accusation about Business Insider:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/business-insider/



LEFT-CENTER BIAS

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation.


Overall, we rate Business Insider Left-Center Biased based on story selection that leans left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a reasonable fact check record.

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Response to George II (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:18 PM

23. Not when I had a subscription. Maybe it changed, but not when I was reading it.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:54 AM

35. +1

Drugs should be aafe, legal, regulated and taxed. That's the lesson of Prohibition that needs to be learned again.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:30 PM

12. On one hand: hard-hitting solution to major drug issue. Other: economy sinker.

Sarcasm thingy

What a horse-shit waste of ink!
Is there any level Joe Manchin wouldn't stoop to to find a headline?

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:30 PM

13. so these two dickweeds are experts on the subject now....

more stupid ass posturing...

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Response to bahboo (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:00 PM

36. usually known as - Beavis & Butt -head !

 

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:30 PM

14. I do wish Manchin would put that kind of energy into passing real legislation like voting rights.

but maybe that GOP crack is just too damn addicting.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:52 PM

16. Faux Noise propaganda. We should expect better from Joe Manchin.

The crack pipe canard has been fact checked all the way to hell.

No surprise that a Trump boot licker like Rubio would support this bulls**t, but come on Joe, check the facts before attacking your own side.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:54 PM

17. Joe Manchin is trash. So is his staff.

There is no way in the effing world that either of these Senators believes that this is nothing more than an effing performative stunt.

They have staff that knows exactly what is happening and yet their staffs are now just another branch of fundraising. Rubio and Manchin are disgusting.





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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 02:55 PM

19. When fact is fiction and TV reality

U2 wrote that 40 years ago I think.


Complete made up bullshit that is now considered the truth.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:04 PM

20. Are crack pipes expensive?

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:11 PM

22. I remember...

... this type of story long ago, maybe during the AIDS era. "Clean needles" were given to drug users. Republicans use the stories to make Democrats look bad... another version was Democrats are giving condoms out in schools! There are logical reasons to consider doing these things, but most people do not go beyond the lurid headlines... All of this stuff sticks to the minds of viewers and readers, sadly...

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:28 PM

24. How stupid can two idiot senators get

We are on the brink of a fascist takeover and dismantling of our system of democracy and those two assholes just care about crack pipes?

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 03:49 PM

25. What about bongs? n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:27 PM

30. Good Question!! LOL

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:09 PM

26. Maybe they could team up with Mike Lindell

Send Mike Lindell your crack pipe and get a free MyPillow!

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 04:26 PM

29. So Manchin is sponsoring a bill that

furthers a right wing false narrative?

Sounds to me as he is the one smoking crack out of pipes along with Marco and the rest of the right wing.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sat Feb 12, 2022, 09:48 PM

33. The feds WERE going to put crack pipes in the kits, until they realized ---

that Don Jr. and Eric had already gone through the whole Federal Strategic Crack Pipe Reserve!!!!
(Joke).

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Response to 70sEraVet (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:03 PM

37. wasn't that Jared's shell company ? can't remember ?

 

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:52 AM

34. Isn't it nice they can get together for something that doesn't exist?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, their beloved law enforcement officers are being picked off like ducks in a shooting gallery. Maybe they should be working on getting the glut of guns under control. You know. Something productive.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:30 AM

38. Block funds to distribute syringes?

Even Mike Pence enacted a needle exchange after HIV tore through this state.

Needle exchanges save lives, because an addict will use a dirty needle.

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