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BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:40 AM Feb 2022

Police move to clear bridge blockade.

Source: New York Times

Canadian police in Windsor, Ontario, began making arrests on Sunday morning near the Ambassador Bridge, a vital border crossing to the United States and one of the most visible sites of an anti-government protest movement that has roiled Canada for weeks. Hundreds of uniformed police officers approached the protesters, some of whom had left their vehicles parked at intersections leading to the bridge. A phalanx of police officers warned the protesters they would be charged with criminal mischief, before closing in the small crowd and making arrests. A tow truck was used to removed a pair of parked pickup trucks blocking the approach to the bridge.

The bridge, which spans the Detroit River, is main avenue of commerce of moving goods between the United States and Canada. The nearly weeklong blockade has cost American automakers, in particular, millions of dollars. The arrests were the first major police action since truckers and other Canadians protesting vaccine mandates laid siege to the area around Canada’s Parliament three weeks ago, inspiring copycat demonstrations across the country and beyond, and blockades of critical trade routes at the U.S.-Canada border. But the police have done little to intervene where the movement began: Ottawa, Canada’s capital.

On Saturday, the protest there swelled in size and energy, turning the downtown streets into a giant, illegal party as vastly outnumbered police officers stood by and watched. In Ottawa on Saturday, thousands of protesters flooded the downtown streets, sometimes so thickly that it became almost impossible to move. Music played on various corners, and people danced in intersections. Vendors set up along the edges of the crowd, making quick sales of small Canada flags and T-shirts that rudely told Prime Minister Justin Trudeau where to go. Calls of “freedom” rang out repeatedly.

Though Ontario’s premier, Doug Ford, had announced a state of emergency on Friday, including steep new penalties for protesters, few police officers could be seen at the Ottawa demonstration. Those who were present, dressed in neon-yellow vests, strolled in groups past protesters who were violating the law in numerous ways. Some carried gas cans, presumably to supply the truckers parked in the streets, though the Ottawa police had said they would crack down on anyone giving “material aid” to the demonstrators. And despite a court injunction obtained last week by a neighborhood resident, truck drivers on Saturday were blasting their horns without ceasing.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/13/world/canada-protests-trudeau-news/police-move-to-clear-bridge-blockade

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Police move to clear bridge blockade. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 OP
This is what one gets for blocking a sidewalk, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #1
Or blocking a highway BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #2
What is the sentence for criminal mischief, probation? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #3
Remember this is Canada BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #4
I used to run around with my cousin in Buffalo, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #5
Well Buffalo is right across from the same Province - Ontario BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #15
It is the police that decide the action, not the politicians Bev54 Feb 2022 #13
Well it seems they have acted differently than say, Montreal BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #20
Different province, Ontario has a conservative provincial government who would like Bev54 Feb 2022 #23
Well you described what I was suggesting BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #24
Under the emergency declaration, penalties can reach $100,000 and a year in jail. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #8
I hope they identify whether they are Canadians or Americans. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #6
You can bet names and license plates are rercorded Historic NY Feb 2022 #10
My co-worker spent an hour and a half at the border crossing. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #18
My computer once swabbed positive for explosives. Richard D Feb 2022 #22
Arrested Americans reportedly will NOT be permitted re-entry into the US Eyeball_Kid Feb 2022 #14
Would Ford and GM have a case for $billion civil case multigraincracker Feb 2022 #7
Dark money in the US is filtered through the Federalist Society. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #19
The Federalist Society should be held accountable for it. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #27
The rabbit's out of the hat bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #9
K&R. William769 Feb 2022 #11
Sadly, these guys will remember this as the highlight of their political life.... Karadeniz Feb 2022 #12
Head 'em up, move 'em out... BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #16
"few police officers could be seen" "strolled in groups past protesters" "to supply the truckers" PSPS Feb 2022 #17
That was my issue when I saw that in the article BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #21
Good Luck Canadian Police! Cha Feb 2022 #25
Do you know why they are protesting? Lasher Feb 2022 #26
Finally. Can't believe they put up with these cretins ruining the economy for so long. nt SunSeeker Feb 2022 #28

BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
2. Or blocking a highway
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:44 AM
Feb 2022


BLM and George Floyd protest downtown Philly during the early summer of 2020 that spilled onto the "river to river" I-676 / Vine St. Expressway (that I used to use every day to commute to work).

As a sidenote, that stretch would be completely under water a year later thanks to remnants of a Hurricane Ida and a cascade of failed pumps.

BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
4. Remember this is Canada
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:05 AM
Feb 2022

The current head / Premier of Ontario (Doug Ford) is a conservative and older brother of the late loon Rob Ford, former mayor of Toronto. So who knows how they will handle this.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
5. I used to run around with my cousin in Buffalo,
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:09 AM
Feb 2022

back in the 60's. I understand this is the other end of Canada but when we went to Canada we found out the OPP were not to be messed around with.

BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
15. Well Buffalo is right across from the same Province - Ontario
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:43 AM
Feb 2022

(Ottawa is in Ontario)

I've been to Montreal (Quebec), Niagara Falls & Windsor (Ontario), and Vancouver (British Columbia), but yeah, the border crossings were no play. I expect that Alberta Province is probably worse though...

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
13. It is the police that decide the action, not the politicians
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:31 AM
Feb 2022

The politicians just provide the laws or the state of emergency to give them more tools to use.

BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
20. Well it seems they have acted differently than say, Montreal
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-montreal-police-use-pepper-spray-tear-gas-at-george-floyd-protest/

But then Quebec is not Ontario.



And the opposition parties including the Liberals disagree about whether "politics" is involved in the situation (including the delay in calling for a state of emergency, some 2 weeks after the protests began) -

Ontario NDP and Liberals say criticism of Ford amid truck convoy protests 'not about politics'


Colin D'Mello
CTV News Toronto Queen's Park Bureau Chief & Video journalist

Katherine DeClerq
CTV News Toronto Multi-Platform Writer

Published Thursday, February 10, 2022 9:20AM EST
Last Updated Thursday, February 10, 2022 9:20AM EST

As Toronto prepares for another protest and convoy demonstrations in Ottawa reach the two-week mark, Ontario’s opposition parties insist they’re not playing politics as they speak out against the Premier Doug Ford’s perceived inaction. The leaders of both the Ontario NDP and Liberals have stepped up their attacks against the premier, accusing him of abandoning the nation's capital while presenting their own ideas on how to force embedded truck drivers to leave the encampment.

Ontario Liberal Leader Steven Del Duca – who said the premier has been “invisible” – recently visited Ottawa to speak with affected business owners and families impacted by the blaring horns and prolonged closures as they wait for Ottawa police to step in. He is also scheduled to visit Windsor on Thursday as protests once again force the Ambassador Bridge to close.

But both parties insist they are not playing politics when it comes to the truck convoy. “Absolutely not,” NDP Leader Andrea Horwath said when asked by CTV News Toronto whether her party was politicizing the issue. “What this is, is us trying to stand up for the people of Ottawa and put an end to this nightmare that they've been facing.”

(snip)

Policing amid such a large protest could be “tricky situation” for the premier, McDougall said. Earlier this week the Solicitor General was accused of inflating the number of OPP officers dispatched to Ottawa when she claimed 1,500 personnel were deployed – Ottawa police said the true number was closer to 100 officers per day. When asked about the premier’s notable absence during the protests, Deputy Premier Christine Elliott said Ford has been “working around the clock” on economic issues, but the occupation and bridge disruptions “is a matter of concern to him.”

(snip)

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-ndp-and-liberals-say-criticism-of-ford-amid-truck-convoy-protests-not-about-politics-1.5775839


When the George Floyd and BLM protests were going on here in cities nationwide, the responses were often swift when it came to blocking streets not designated as part of a "protest route", with the "Gray Gooses" brought in to haul people away.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
23. Different province, Ontario has a conservative provincial government who would like
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 01:38 PM
Feb 2022

nothing better than to make people believe it is Trudeau's problem. If he can't get control of Ottawa then Trudeau may have to step in and take over for Ford, who did not do his job properly by giving resources to Ottawa and doesn't give a shit about them as it is liberal territory. It is the same in Alberta, Kenny, the Premier, is a conservative and he has all the power he needs as they previously passed laws here to shut down pipeline protests, he just is not using them, to call in the needed police resources because the protesters are his people and he thinks it will hurt Trudeau. While it is the police that make the tactical decisions, it is the politicians that make the laws and request the resources.

BumRushDaShow

(128,516 posts)
24. Well you described what I was suggesting
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 02:09 PM
Feb 2022

And it's obviously the delicate issue of Trudeau being forced to wade into the middle of that.

But it's one thing giving someone "the tools" and another implicitly suggesting, by a lack or delay of action , that the matter is not a "priority", and thus sends a subtle message "not to use" the tools at their disposal as designed (if they are even actually given those tools), and this is what Ford has done. I.e., the article noted this -

Though Ontario’s premier, Doug Ford, had announced a state of emergency on Friday, including steep new penalties for protesters, few police officers could be seen at the Ottawa demonstration. Those who were present, dressed in neon-yellow vests, strolled in groups past protesters who were violating the law in numerous ways. Some carried gas cans, presumably to supply the truckers parked in the streets, though the Ottawa police had said they would crack down on anyone giving “material aid” to the demonstrators. And despite a court injunction obtained last week by a neighborhood resident, truck drivers on Saturday were blasting their horns without ceasing.


which adds fuel to the fire about the misrepresentations about actually how many officers were even sent to the scene per the article I posted about - i.e., this part -

Policing amid such a large protest could be “tricky situation” for the premier, McDougall said. Earlier this week the Solicitor General was accused of inflating the number of OPP officers dispatched to Ottawa when she claimed 1,500 personnel were deployed – Ottawa police said the true number was closer to 100 officers per day. When asked about the premier’s notable absence during the protests, Deputy Premier Christine Elliott said Ford has been “working around the clock” on economic issues, but the occupation and bridge disruptions “is a matter of concern to him.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-ndp-and-liberals-say-criticism-of-ford-amid-truck-convoy-protests-not-about-politics-1.5775839


"Matter of concern" is very different from "state of emergency" (which is having a negative impact on trade with what is Canada's biggest trade partner).

So "politicians" most certainly do make their intent known on how those under their purview should carry out their functions.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
10. You can bet names and license plates are rercorded
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:25 AM
Feb 2022

I've made several crossings in NY (beer runs) in the old days. Today's technology, they will know if they had bacon or Canadian bacon for breakfast. I am sure all their passports are flagged along with any enhanced driver's license.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
18. My co-worker spent an hour and a half at the border crossing.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:00 PM
Feb 2022

He made the mistake when asked if he had any recent medical procedures by answering, no. It finally dawned on him why he was being detained, he tripped the radiation sensors from the dye he had in his system. True story.

Richard D

(8,741 posts)
22. My computer once swabbed positive for explosives.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:17 PM
Feb 2022

Lost an hour or so of my life. . . Turns out, I had let a patient check her email on the computer. Her husband took Nitroglycerine for his heart condition. Pretty sensitive.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
14. Arrested Americans reportedly will NOT be permitted re-entry into the US
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:42 AM
Feb 2022

until they have completed the process of accountability. I'm not sure exactly what that means, but US citizens won't be given special status.

multigraincracker

(32,641 posts)
7. Would Ford and GM have a case for $billion civil case
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:20 AM
Feb 2022

against the big money supporters and organizers of traffic blocked from protest? Start adding up lost income now.
Others might have a case too.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
19. Dark money in the US is filtered through the Federalist Society.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:03 PM
Feb 2022

No one knows who the donor/donors are. Sheldon Whitehouse on the floor of the Senate claimed that the Federalist Society was behind things like critical race theory and the writing of the anti-voter laws in the states. Wasn't Christopher Wray one time a member? I will have to check.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
9. The rabbit's out of the hat
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:23 AM
Feb 2022

surely some moran will decide bridge blockage is his private toll road. Welcome to freedumbs!

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
17. "few police officers could be seen" "strolled in groups past protesters" "to supply the truckers"
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:56 AM
Feb 2022

So the police are sympathizers?

Lasher

(27,541 posts)
26. Do you know why they are protesting?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 03:44 PM
Feb 2022
A convoy of truck drivers formed to protest the Canadian government’s mandate requiring everyone to be vaccinated for COVID-19 in order to cross the border into Canada.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2022/02/12/get-caught-up-police-begin-removing-protesters-as-ambassador-bridge-blockade-enters-6th-day/

They don't like it because Canada is requiring everybody to get vaccinated before entering their country. This would include US truckers, of course. No wonder they look so much like Trumpers.
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