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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:02 PM Feb 2022

John Eastman claims attorney-client privilege over thousands of pages sought by Jan. 6 investigators

Source: Politico

Attorney John Eastman, a close ally of Donald Trump amid his effort to subvert the 2020 election, has attempted to shield more than 10,000 pages of emails and counting from congressional investigators, citing attorney client or attorney work-product privileges.

The staggering total comes amid a court-ordered review by Eastman of more than 94,000 pages of emails the Jan. 6 select committee has subpoenaed from Eastman’s former employer, Chapman University. Eastman sued to block the subpoena but a federal judge last month denied that effort and ordered him to begin reviewing the emails and itemizing his privilege claims.

In a court filing early Monday, Eastman said he has reviewed about 46,000 pages — nearly half the total — and provided about 8,000 to the committee. About 27,000 were automatically withheld because they were considered boilerplate mass emails, like campaign solicitations or newsletters. Eastman has attempted to shield the remaining 11,000 from the select committee by citing one of the attorney related privileges. With half of the review remaining, it’s likely that total will climb.

Last month, the judge in the case, U.S. District Court Judge James Carter, ordered Eastman to review 1,500 pages per day and determine whether any privileges apply. Carter, who has emphasized the urgency of the Jan. 6 investigation, required Eastman to produce a daily log of documents he is withholding to give committee investigators a chance to object to his privilege claims. Carter has said he intends to review any disputed documents as Eastman nears completion of his full review.


Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/14/john-eastman-jan-6-investigation-00008560
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John Eastman claims attorney-client privilege over thousands of pages sought by Jan. 6 investigators (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2022 OP
I'm sorry, I can't help it, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #1
How do you know the DoJ isn't investigating? Ocelot II Feb 2022 #2
thank you...that's what I've been saying for months agingdem Feb 2022 #7
And you know the DOJ is NOT investigating, because....why? brooklynite Feb 2022 #3
Because their broken crystal ball told then so emulatorloo Feb 2022 #21
Likewise ... though I'm certainly glad they are. I'm also hopeful that Garland is actually doing KPN Feb 2022 #12
DOJ is supposed to be independent of the President. Barr's and Trump's perversion of that was not emulatorloo Feb 2022 #22
I understand and orinarily I would fully agree. But these are not ordinary times. KPN Feb 2022 #25
The Courts have been quite clear melm00se Feb 2022 #4
Isn't that negated when there are future crimines involved? csziggy Feb 2022 #17
yes but the bar for this is pretty darn high melm00se Feb 2022 #23
Wouldn't it be fairly east to show that the situation did exist at the time it occurred. There is KPN Feb 2022 #26
Try telling the authorities they can't execute a search warrant rsdsharp Feb 2022 #27
There is not much you can do while it is being executed melm00se Feb 2022 #28
And if the warrant is not defective, and it rarely is, rsdsharp Feb 2022 #29
But his e-mails. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #5
A lawyer can't use attorney-client privilege to cover up a crime if he was involved in it. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #6
Good point. His plan to overturn the election should be viewed as an illegal act oldsoftie Feb 2022 #10
Excellent points PatSeg Feb 2022 #11
Exactly! Eastman is involved in the cover up no doubt PortTack Feb 2022 #14
Isn't there a way for a neutral party to examine each dcument an determine LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2022 #8
The judge would do that. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #20
Why isn't the review being handled by a special master? bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #9
Good question! nt csziggy Feb 2022 #18
Has he offered documentation that Trump was actually his client? C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #13
They are running the damn clock out... Historic NY Feb 2022 #15
The judge-approved "review" sounds like an opportunity to destroy evidence. ancianita Feb 2022 #16
U.S. District Court Judge James Carter: looked up all the circuit & district judges, can't find him. ancianita Feb 2022 #19
Don't Understand The 27,000 Being Withheld DallasNE Feb 2022 #24
Trump was the client? Show me the retainer check. Grins Feb 2022 #30

gab13by13

(21,317 posts)
1. I'm sorry, I can't help it,
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:06 PM
Feb 2022

I become dismayed when I learn that the select committee is investigating instead of DOJ.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
2. How do you know the DoJ isn't investigating?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:08 PM
Feb 2022

Criminal investigations usually aren't revealed to the public until they go to a grand jury, and maybe not even then.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
7. thank you...that's what I've been saying for months
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:20 PM
Feb 2022

this isn't like the Mueller/Russia investigation...it leaked tantalizing little tidbits (it's Mueller time)...and then nothing..Rosenstein narrowed the scope, Mueller was afraid to color outside of the lines, Barr co-opted the report and that was the end of that...Garland's DOJ is shrouded in secrecy, no leaks, no daylight...good

KPN

(15,642 posts)
12. Likewise ... though I'm certainly glad they are. I'm also hopeful that Garland is actually doing
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:37 PM
Feb 2022

more than I think he is, but must say I am worried he is not and can't help but wonder whether Joe is monitoring and putting any pressure on him to do so if not. Time's awaisting!

emulatorloo

(44,117 posts)
22. DOJ is supposed to be independent of the President. Barr's and Trump's perversion of that was not
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:47 PM
Feb 2022

right

KPN

(15,642 posts)
25. I understand and orinarily I would fully agree. But these are not ordinary times.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:59 PM
Feb 2022

While in ordinary times I would expect nothing less, this stuff is existentially important and needs to be treated as such in my view. I'd give Joe a pass and actually my support on this particular one.

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
4. The Courts have been quite clear
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:13 PM
Feb 2022

on attorney-client privilege

Upjohn Co. v. United States

The attorney-client privilege is the oldest of the privileges for confidential communications known to the common law. 8 J. Wigmore, Evidence § 2290 (McNaughton rev.1961). Its purpose is to encourage full and frank communication between attorneys and their clients, and thereby promote broader public interests in the observance of law and administration of justice. The privilege recognizes that sound legal advice or advocacy serves public ends and that such advice or advocacy depends upon the lawyer's being fully informed by the client. As we stated last Term in Trammel v. United States, 445 U. S. 40, 445 U. S. 51 (1980)...


there is more at the link but the core of this is that the attorney-client privilege is and should be extremely difficult to pierce.



csziggy

(34,136 posts)
17. Isn't that negated when there are future crimines involved?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:19 PM
Feb 2022
Tips for Addressing Crime-Fraud Exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege in Civil Cases
It is important to understand the reasoning behind this exception to the privilege, using federal law as a guide.
By Fritz Riesmeyer and Emily Crane

Trial counsel is increasingly called upon to address an exception to the attorney-client privilege known as the crime-fraud exception. Under this exception, a request is made for communications between a client and its attorney, based upon allegations that the legal advice was used in furtherance of an illegal or fraudulent activity. Such a request can be made before, during, or after trial, and can effectively derail discovery or trial.

It is important to understand the reasoning behind this exception to the privilege, using federal law as a guide. The Supreme Court set forth its reasoning in a 1989 decision, as follows:

The attorney-client privilege is not without its costs. Since the privilege has the effect of withholding relevant information from the factfinder, it applies only where necessary to achieve its purpose. The attorney-client privilege must necessarily protect the confidences of wrongdoers, but the reason for that protection–the centrality of open client and attorney communication to the proper functioning of our adversary system of justice–ceases to operate at a certain point, namely, where the desired advice refers not to prior wrongdoing, but to future wrongdoing. It is the purpose of the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege to assure that the “seal of secrecy” between lawyer and client does not extend to communications made for the purpose of getting advice for the commission of a fraud or crime.

U.S. v. Zolin, 491 U.S. 554, 562-63 (1989).


More: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/business-torts-unfair-competition/practice/2018/tips-for-addressing-crime-fraud-exception-to-attorney-client-privilege-in-civil-cases/


Emphasis added.

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
23. yes but the bar for this is pretty darn high
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:51 PM
Feb 2022

It is up to the party seeking to pierce this veil with show that such a situation exists.

They cannot compel disclosure of the documents to prove their case. That creates a 5th Amendment issue.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
26. Wouldn't it be fairly east to show that the situation did exist at the time it occurred. There is
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:04 PM
Feb 2022

plenty of publicly revealed evidence to this effect already I would think. That's my hope at least. If my hope is misplaced, then we are totally screwed in my opinion; democracy will be a lost cause -[- at least for decades.

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
27. Try telling the authorities they can't execute a search warrant
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:04 PM
Feb 2022

because it raises a Fifth Amendment issue.

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
28. There is not much you can do while it is being executed
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:10 PM
Feb 2022

but if it shouldn't have been executed or signed, all the evidence would be booted on appeal.

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
29. And if the warrant is not defective, and it rarely is,
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:18 PM
Feb 2022

the government has “compel[led] disclosure of the documents to prove their case,” without raising Fifth Amendment issues.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
6. A lawyer can't use attorney-client privilege to cover up a crime if he was involved in it.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:19 PM
Feb 2022

Also, I'm willing to bet that people other than the "client" (and who is the actual client?) were cc'd on some of those emails, and if so the privilege doesn't apply even if it would otherwise. The work product privilege is even narrower; it applies only to materials produced in anticipation of litigation, but these documents were prepared in anticipation of insurrection, not litigation.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
11. Excellent points
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:35 PM
Feb 2022

Of course it isn't surprising that Eastman tried to use it. These people are running out of options.

8. Isn't there a way for a neutral party to examine each dcument an determine
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:25 PM
Feb 2022

whether it falls within the attorney-client privilege? After all, it's a privilege, not a right.

Documents involved in committing a crime are surely an exception to this "privilege" argument, otherwise a defendant could claim that an email he sent to his lawyer describing in great detail a crime he was going to commit or had committed was protected by attorney-client privilege.

A witness who wants to assert his Fifth Amendment right can't do it by simply saying, "All my testimony is protected by the Fifth Amendment." He has to do it question-by-question, which one of TFG's henchmen did while testifying to the select committee. He did it 500 times, if I recall.

There's always a way to get documentary evidence.


C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
13. Has he offered documentation that Trump was actually his client?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:43 PM
Feb 2022

They sound more like co-conspirators.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
15. They are running the damn clock out...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:06 PM
Feb 2022

if Democrats lose the house, the committee will be under Jordan and the shredders will work overtime for the win. That is the God Damn ballgame . Someone ought to have that conversation with Biden and Garland.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
16. The judge-approved "review" sounds like an opportunity to destroy evidence.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:15 PM
Feb 2022

From what District and state is this judge? I can't find him.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
19. U.S. District Court Judge James Carter: looked up all the circuit & district judges, can't find him.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:32 PM
Feb 2022

I don't think Google can, either.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
24. Don't Understand The 27,000 Being Withheld
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:54 PM
Feb 2022

Because they are "boilerplate mass emails, like campaign solicitations or newsletters." If the money from the solicitations was part of the expenses then that is J6 related, as I see it. Same with the newsletters if they mentioned a rally in DC on or around January 6th. The issue of relevance is not Eastman's to make.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
30. Trump was the client? Show me the retainer check.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:46 AM
Feb 2022

Eastman is traitor, like hundreds (thousands?) of other Republicans.

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