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Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:44 PM

Manchin wants Sinema to take a fresh look at tax rate hikes on corporations and the rich, but she's

Source: Business Insider

Manchin wants Sinema to take a fresh look at tax rate hikes on corporations and the rich, but she's not budging

Sen. Joe Manchin is starting to turn up the heat on another Democratic holdout with competing demands on President Joe Biden's spending bill.

The conservative West Virginia Democrat has ramped up calls this month to step up taxes on the richest Americans and large firms. But he's likely to encounter resistance from Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, who shut the door on hiking tax rates on both of those groups last fall.

"I respect her and what her concerns may be, but I think basically our financial situation is getting worse, not better, so maybe we can take another look at it," Manchin told The Wall Street Journal. "I would hope so."

"Why can't we just get a good solid tax plan that works? That's the first thing to do." he told the Journal.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/manchin-sinema-to-budge-tax-rate-hikes-corporations-rich-2022-2

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Reply Manchin wants Sinema to take a fresh look at tax rate hikes on corporations and the rich, but she's (Original post)
Polybius Feb 2022 OP
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2022 #1
DownriverDem Feb 2022 #2
Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #3
PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #7
Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #8
brush Feb 2022 #12
Claustrum Feb 2022 #16
PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #17
KPN Feb 2022 #4
brush Feb 2022 #13
LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #33
CentralMass Feb 2022 #15
KPN Feb 2022 #20
Polybius Feb 2022 #23
Walleye Feb 2022 #5
Harker Feb 2022 #27
Walleye Feb 2022 #28
Harker Feb 2022 #30
Walleye Feb 2022 #31
LineReply I
Faux pas Feb 2022 #6
bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #9
GB_RN Feb 2022 #14
TheBlackAdder Feb 2022 #10
PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #18
dchill Feb 2022 #26
Emile Feb 2022 #36
CentralMass Feb 2022 #11
bluestarone Feb 2022 #19
Walleye Feb 2022 #29
LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #34
LenaBaby61 Feb 2022 #35
cstanleytech Feb 2022 #21
BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #22
ificandream Feb 2022 #24
dchill Feb 2022 #25
wackadoo wabbit Feb 2022 #32

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:46 PM

1. Welcome to our world, Joe. n/t

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:46 PM

2. Boy

No wonder Arizona hates that she is their senator.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:49 PM

3. Make.Her.Vote.

Stop with the negotiations. Let Manchin craft a bill that the rest of the Dems support, then force Sinema to be the sole Dem No vote.

She doesn’t have the guts.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:56 PM

7. Are you really sure she wouldn't love to be placed in such a position - with all the inherent

attention?

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:00 PM

8. If she's going to block the bill anyway, force her to go on the record, and seal her doom.

Her primary opponent can make the vote a focal point of their campaign.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:07 PM

12. Absolutely.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:14 PM

16. I think she is doomed either way.

She lost way too many democratic votes to ever get elected again, even before she go on the record for this bill.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:14 PM

17. I don't think she'll be running in the Democratic senate primary in 2024. n/t

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:50 PM

4. Wonder what got to Joe? Can't imagine he's doing this based on principle. Perhaps I'm wrong,

but where were those principles last fall during the push for BBB?

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Response to KPN (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:10 PM

13. Good question. But not to worry, when his corporate backers...

call him, he'll change his tune about raising taxes on the rich. He likes to tease and seem reasonable before he moves the goal posts once again.

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Response to brush (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:46 AM

33. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to KPN (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:13 PM

15. He can afford to put on show for something that's not going to happem

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:33 PM

20. Bingo -- you win!

ps -- Always nice to see another one-time MA native here on DU.

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Response to KPN (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:04 PM

23. I think his views might actually be honest

He's a conservative Democrat, but is with us on most things. Just my guess though.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:50 PM

5. Can't we get any leverage over her? Must be something she wants, or something doesn't want revealed

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Response to Walleye (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:45 PM

27. A big gift certificate for her local thrift store, maybe?

Given that she's teaching college students the art of fundraising, I think I know what motivates her.

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Response to Harker (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:23 PM

28. Lust for power is killing our country

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Response to Walleye (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:55 PM

30. It is...

as is the growing disdain for sharing it, and for using it for our collective well being.

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Response to Harker (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:58 PM

31. They're worried sick that anything they do might help Black people and immigrants

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:53 PM

6. I

don't trust or believe old joe. Trying to seem like he actually cares is my take.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:02 PM

9. She worried about upscale retiree vote in AZ

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:12 PM

14. You Mean All That Oil Tycoon Money She's Obtained...

Recently? She’s gotten a shitload of money from energy sector and other GOPQ donors in the last couple of quarters, most of it from Texas. IIRC, he’s had a couple of fundraisers with Senator John Cornhole (R-Scumbag) from Texas, as well.

The flip side of that coin is, her small donor money has dried up. There are only so many rich people who can donate the max, but you can keep hitting up small donors as there are lots more of them. So her fundraising is going to hit a ceiling.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:05 PM

10. Is this Good Cop, Bad Cop?

.

I've seen this waltz before.

.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:15 PM

18. These 2 could be a tag-team in the WWE. n/t

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:35 PM

26. Bad cop, worse cop?

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 15, 2022, 07:24 AM

36. That's exactly what this is! The two of them

are making us out to be as stupid as the Republican voters.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:07 PM

11. An out for Manchin so he can blame someone else ?

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:29 PM

19. Maybe this route could pull a RETHUGLICON into the picture?

Won't need Sinema. I don't like it BUT we DO need to get something done before election. (time to ACCEPT this i guess)

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:24 PM

29. On a tax bill?. Never going to happen.

Republicans hate taxes. Because taxes support the United States. And they hate the United States

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Response to Walleye (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:47 AM

34. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to Walleye (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:48 AM

35. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:39 PM

21. Large corporations should be taxed 90% however the high total % of employee they have here in the

US that earn more than +250% above the federal poverty level the lower their rate and the effective tax rate for some can and should fall to 0% but only under certain conditions.
For example a company that has 20,000 employees (temp, contract workers and people employed by a franchise count as employees) worldwide with 90% of them located and working inside the US can go to zero if 95% of all of those employees earn more than 250% over the federal poverty level.
A company that has 20,000 worldwide with only say 200 inside the US would see substantially less.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:44 PM

22. Corporate Monopolies are the enemy of democracy

We should tax the hell out of them and support small business, regional distributors and the family farm.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:26 PM

24. A look at some of Synema's contributors ... surprise, surprise, surprise.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:34 PM

25. "..I respect her and what her concerns may be..."

You're all alone, buddy.

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Response to dchill (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:31 PM

32. This made me chuckle /nt

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