Some Russian troops moved to firing positions near Ukraine, Putin said be ready by Feb. 16: Sources

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Source: ABC News

While Russia's defense ministry said Tuesday that some forces would pull back from Ukraine's borders after completing military exercises, the U.S. has so far not seen that, President Joe Biden said in an address to the nation.

But worrying U.S. officials, Russians troops are instead moving forward closer to the line, including with medical supplies, and being put into firing positions, sources told ABC News.

The U.S. believes that Russia now has all the necessary pieces in place, including 150,000 troops in the region, to launch a swift and brutal invasion of Ukraine, the sources added -- the reason why Biden administration officials have now publicly been saying Russia could move "at any time."

In particular, ABC News has learned that Russian leader Vladimir Putin had told his military forces to be ready to go by Wednesday, Feb. 16, but it is still unclear whether he has made a decision to attack his neighbor.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russian-troops-moved-firing-positions-ukraine-putin-ready/story?id=82909721

[lapfog_1]

1. next 5 hours... or 29 hours... are critical

[BootinUp]

2. I hate these moments where

you want to know which report, about the current crisis, to believe.

[blue-wave]

18. I know. But the confusion appears to be

from Putin himself. He announces that he has pulled some troops back. Then he has told Russian troops to be ready by the 16th of February for invasion. He's created the situation with some sort of weird cat and mouse or carrot and stick approach. It's an exceptionally dangerous game. All you need is one wrong move by anyone and the the whole thing escalates into full blown war.

I think the guy is nuts and needs intense counseling.

[Ghost Dog]

23. One would like to know by means of what source

"ABC News has learned that Russian leader Vladimir Putin had told his military forces to be ready to go by Wednesday, Feb. 16." And, on what basis you, blue-wave, can assert that this means "invasion".

Officially, Russia says that while it seeks implementation of the Minsk Agreements, it sees signs that Ukrainian forces are positioned to attack the Donbass region...:

... "The attention of our interlocutors is drawn in every possible way to this dangerous concentration (of the Ukrainian troops at the engagement line in Donbass) and the attention of our interlocutors is drawn to the fact that a military operation and an attempt to resolve problems with the use of force in the southeast (of Ukraine) are quite real. This probability is high and real and, unfortunately, all of us and the entire world were witnesses when Kiev unleashed a military operation in Donbass, that is, it started a civil war in the country," the Russian presidential spokesman said... - https://tass.com/world/1404271

[EndlessWire]

24. Probably because of this:

"But worrying U.S. officials, Russians troops are instead moving forward closer to the line, including with medical supplies, and being put into firing positions, sources told ABC News."

And, you have quoted a Russian source (which is quite funny, considering DUs fussiness over credibility of news sources.) Do you really think their press will print anything that controverts the official line?

Oh, maybe your whole post is sarcastic...LOL...I like it...the whole quote is their expected false flag, prepping the Russian citizen for the horrors of a war with their neighbor...of course, the Donbas region belongs to Ukraine, and Putin has asserted his rights to it. He doesn't have any, of course, and has been at war with Ukraine over that region for a long time.

"It is highly probable that Kiev will embark on a combat operation in Donbass, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday." Well, dumbass! Of COURSE they're pumping up their defenses! Probably have a few Babushkas out there, too. Their "combat operation" in Donbas would be repelling the Russian army out of their country! But, thanks for telling us where you're gonna be! (Oh my, you can't make this stuff up...)

[Sapient Donkey]

3. I hope reports stating the opposite are true. The world does not need Russia to start a war.

I saw ANSWER Coalition and Code Pink were holding some anti-war rallies over this situation. I was bit perplexed when I saw the messages, though.

https://www.answercoalition.org/

https://www.codepink.org/russia

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Will Trump side with Putin?

and attack Biden's response?

[Sapient Donkey]

5. He (or republicans in general) is going to attack anything Biden does

Right now we see them calling Biden a war monger pushing for war or whatever. If Biden was more passive and detached, then they would be calling him weak on defense. You know what, they will probably some find a way to do both at the same time, and their followers won't see anything wrong with it.

[Hoyt]

7. trump is going to say that during his term, we didn't have these problems.

I’d love to see NATO and USA actions stop an invasion. But, not betting on that right now.

[Zorro]

8. May be nothing

I'm due east of the Marine's Miramar Air Station in San Diego, and I'm hearing a lot of unusual jet flyovers tonight. It's not normal.

[EndlessWire]

25. I occasionally see small convoys of helicopters from Northeast of my position

I haven't seen anything unusual, but we had a thunderstorm through here yesterday. If I see anything I think is weird, I will post.

[Rebl2]

11. Of course

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19. If Vegas is taking bets,

I would bet on it.

[Cheezoholic]

6. Since when did real war become a video game for the masses....

Not buying a damn thing that is being reported, neither military is that damn stupid to leak plans.

[OnlinePoker]

13. The beginning of the first Gulf War.

Opening salvos live in your living room. Vietnam, it took a day to get the footage to the nation. Minor actions during the Reagan administration, a few hours. But with Gulf War 1 and the 24 hour news cycle, it was live and in color.

[Cheezoholic]

17. Not talking about the reporting from the "front"

I'm not talking about Wolf Bliztzcrieg reporting with bombs going off in the city behind him like he was the first to know. Im talking about military strategy. Every news outlet out there has a "source" etc of whats going on and whats happening. Its all mis/dis-information. We really don't know what the hell is going on or being planned by anyone except perhaps the diplomatic efforts. You dont go into or potentially go into a fight with your cards face up. My biggest concern is that nut fuck in Turkey. He could very well drag NATO into this. He's fuckin nuts.

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20. I don't think it's that the Russians leaked the plans

It's more like our intelligence agencies do an exceptional job. And once they discover the Russian's plans, they leak those plans (but likely not all info) as a way to stop Putin from moving forward with the plan. The reports of a possible Russian false flag that came out a few days ago is one example.

[pwb]

9. Putty needs 50 cents more per gallon from us before

he calls off the bluff. Russia needs that oil and gas money.

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21. Very probable

[yaesu]

10. As power hungry as putin is he doesn't seem like he's stupid enough to completely destroy Russia's

economy & what is left of its standing in the world. There is no reward for all of that risk. He may be playing a very dangerous war game , putting his troops to the ultimate loyalty test, maybe hoping to use the scared straight tactic on Ukraine & the rest of the old soviet block. Even NK Kim wouldn't be that crazy to invade another country knowing the dire consequences,

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22. Let's hope and pray Putin isn't stupid

[EndlessWire]

26. I don't think they think that way.

I think Putin feels that he can win. He's checked out what NATO can do or is willing to do, he has lined up his ducks, gotten his excuses in order, and if he wants to go, he'll go. He's got Asia sewn up, so no worries there. I don't think he minds killing Babushkas.

He may be willing to talk more, but I don't think he intends, really, to give in. But, we will see. The weather is important here.

[Brainfodder]

12. Just gross, good luck to nice people who need it!

[C Moon]

14. Ukrainians are going to die, just so some god damned billionaires can have their way...

and keep putin looking good.

[Corgigal]

15. Just listened to Malcolm Nance

on Gaslit Nation podcast, he said the exact same thing. He is over there in Ukraine.

In case anyone want to hear a scary up to date, podcast.

[Habitation]

16. Thank you!