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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 07:40 PM Feb 2022

Hospital Locks Down ICU Over 'Online Attacks' for COVID Treatment

Source: newsweek

The wrath of a local religious leader forced an Oklahoma City, Oklahoma hospital to lock down its intensive care unit (ICU) and bolster security measures after the hospital refused to offer an unproven COVID-19 treatment to one of the leader's followers.

The Reverend Daniel Navejas, founder of The Ekklesia of Oklahoma evangelical group, led a protest outside of Mercy Hospital Oklahoma City demanding that doctors offer his "beloved brother," 70-year-old Robert Barth, a higher dose of a steroid known as budesonide, which was a request originally made by Barth's wife, The Oklahoman reported.

After the demand went unmet, the pressure for Barth's doctor to administer the drug mounted on social media after Navejas made a post describing one of Barth's doctors as a "murderer." This led one user to post the doctor's address and another to suggest they run him out of town.

"[The doctor,] his wife, and his small children are in fear for their lives," hospital attorneys wrote ......

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/hospital-locks-down-icu-over-online-attacks-covid-treatment-1679986




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Hospital Locks Down ICU Over 'Online Attacks' for COVID Treatment (Original Post) L. Coyote Feb 2022 OP
If Muslims did this, it would be called "terrorism", but for Evangelicals it's "FREEDOM" ck4829 Feb 2022 #1
Medical care prescribed by Facebook Warpy Feb 2022 #6
Treat them as they want. keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #16
Absolutely. Let them establish their own wnylib Feb 2022 #31
I agree. If patients insist on using harmful medications, they should be sent elsewhere. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #41
It is terrorism, it should be treated as such. Chainfire Feb 2022 #2
THIS Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #4
Yes. They are a minority with the loudest voices. LoisB Feb 2022 #13
True. This is domestic terrorism and should be treated as such riversedge Feb 2022 #38
Who would Jebus threaten? paleotn Feb 2022 #3
Patriarchal "Christian" terrorism at its finest. Suuuure, they have Jesus in their hearts. Guilded Lilly Feb 2022 #5
I guess their prayers don't work. nt chowder66 Feb 2022 #7
Which is why they need to SHUT THE HELL UP and Prof. Toru Tanaka Feb 2022 #9
+1 chowder66 Feb 2022 #10
"Beloved brother" Bob Barth died on Feb 11th... dixiechiken1 Feb 2022 #8
NOt only nots but dangerous! riversedge Feb 2022 #39
Fom The Lancet regarding Budesonide--- packman Feb 2022 #11
Sounds like Brother Robert.... SergeStorms Feb 2022 #32
Boy, these christians sure aren't very Christ-like. I guess they no longer hold to that WWJD LoisB Feb 2022 #12
Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wante keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #14
Right? AllyCat Feb 2022 #29
Why do these health experts Turbineguy Feb 2022 #15
Ah, yet another example of evangelical hate, ignorance, stupidity and intolerance. PatrickforB Feb 2022 #17
Maybe his "beloved brother" should be released from the Hospital BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #18
He died. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #20
Thanks - just read the update BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #21
They know it all until it is too late. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #22
So true... BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #23
How ironic for the ones who have a Come to Jesus moment realizing their religion was wrong L. Coyote Feb 2022 #25
God these people are truly awful on every level! Initech Feb 2022 #19
"My medical knowledge is equalled only by my... dchill Feb 2022 #24
They should have given it to him orangecrush Feb 2022 #26
Religion Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #27
Put him in a guerney and tell the pastor he can collect paulrevere2018 Feb 2022 #28
What do these people think a hospital is? SergeStorms Feb 2022 #30
Makes me wonder how they'd feel if we started posting THEIR addresses. calimary Feb 2022 #33
Why did they even go to a doctor? PurgedVoter Feb 2022 #34
The Reverend Daniel Navejas thinks he's Lord Vader. Marcuse Feb 2022 #35
Arrest them. they attacked a hospital rockfordfile Feb 2022 #36
Right? Why are these terrorists being treated with kid gloves? SunSeeker Feb 2022 #37
..The FDA has not approved the drug, nor has it been recommended by its panel as a treatment for COV riversedge Feb 2022 #40

Warpy

(111,240 posts)
6. Medical care prescribed by Facebook
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 07:57 PM
Feb 2022

instead of evidence based medicine.

It's time to transfer these folks who clamor for unproven drugs and won't listen to reason to a palliative care unit. Give them their poison of choice and keep them as comfortable as possible while it kills them.

It's also time to start regulating Facebook and other promoters of quack medicine. Irresponsible libertarians are killing people.

wnylib

(21,425 posts)
31. Absolutely. Let them establish their own
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 10:08 PM
Feb 2022

alternative care facilities. They could turn their own church social halls into care units. There are quack doctors and nurses who promote Ivermectin and oppose vaccines and masks. Let them treat their followers in their own facilities and free up hospitals for people who believe in medicine.

Lonestarblue

(9,969 posts)
41. I agree. If patients insist on using harmful medications, they should be sent elsewhere.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:55 AM
Feb 2022

Hospital beds are still scarce in some areas. Let people who want to be treated have those beds. Right-wing media and the internet are turning too many people into raving lunatics.

Chainfire

(17,527 posts)
2. It is terrorism, it should be treated as such.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 07:49 PM
Feb 2022

Nobody has the guts to push back against the rightwingnuts. It will get a lot worse before it gets better.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,950 posts)
9. Which is why they need to SHUT THE HELL UP and
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:08 PM
Feb 2022

let the hospital do their job trying to save this antivaxxer's life.

Add to post: I know Barth ended up passing away.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. Fom The Lancet regarding Budesonide---
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:09 PM
Feb 2022

Early administration of inhaled budesonide reduced the likelihood of needing urgent medical care and reduced time to recovery after early COVID-19.

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(21)00160-0/fulltext

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
32. Sounds like Brother Robert....
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 10:15 PM
Feb 2022

was already in late stage COVID by the time they took him to the hospital. I imagine they tried to pray it away for quite some time before they took the last ride to the hospital.

God gave him an immune system, right?

Budesonide would have been a waste of time anyway. You can't administer it when you're intubated.

LoisB

(7,199 posts)
12. Boy, these christians sure aren't very Christ-like. I guess they no longer hold to that WWJD
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:30 PM
Feb 2022

b.s. they had all over the place a few years back.

keithbvadu2

(36,752 posts)
14. Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wante
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:36 PM
Feb 2022

Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wanted?

Turbineguy

(37,315 posts)
15. Why do these health experts
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:39 PM
Feb 2022

go to a hospital?

They should know by now they will get the wrong treatment.

PatrickforB

(14,570 posts)
17. Ah, yet another example of evangelical hate, ignorance, stupidity and intolerance.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:45 PM
Feb 2022

Too bad we cannot simply shake the dust off our shoes and get rid of this dirtbag.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
18. Maybe his "beloved brother" should be released from the Hospital
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:50 PM
Feb 2022

Oops! Just read the update. Looks like “Beloved Brother” has now been released from all his earthly woes. Tots and Pears…

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
23. So true...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:58 PM
Feb 2022

Just once I’d like to see one of these sanctimonious Bible bangers accept responsibility for their own words and actions instead of looking for someone else to blame.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
25. How ironic for the ones who have a Come to Jesus moment realizing their religion was wrong
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 09:42 PM
Feb 2022

and that they need a hospital instead.

paulrevere2018

(15 posts)
28. Put him in a guerney and tell the pastor he can collect
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 09:48 PM
Feb 2022

Him in the front of the hospital entrance. There must be a quack somewhere in town that'll give them what they want. Let the hospital get back to doing what they should be.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
30. What do these people think a hospital is?
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 10:05 PM
Feb 2022

Do they think it's like Burger King, where you can "have it your way"?

Is it like a Chinese Restaurant, where you get one from column A, and one from column B?



Don't take your loved one to a hospital if you want to make every decision about their treatment. Doctors know what to do, you don't, no matter what you read on Facebook, or your church newsletter.

Fucking idiots!

PurgedVoter

(2,216 posts)
34. Why did they even go to a doctor?
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 10:23 PM
Feb 2022

Clearly their lack of faith and clear prayer are the issue here.


So I looked up the Reverend Daniel Navejas

His twitter label, "Husband • Father • Minister • Abolitionist • Founder of The Ekklesia of Oklahoma • Entrepreneur • Chairman of OKGOP CD3" tells it all.

When a person says Entrepreneur and Minister at the same time, it is usually a very clear warning sign that they are all about the money.

The Ekklesia of Oklahoma is even more interesting. It is a business. https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.the_ekklesia_of_oklahoma_inc.97a72b803d5bcacf9f7f4084942b2bf9.html

A religious business and they give this quote on their various web presences; "The Ekklesia by definition and historically, is known as the legislative & judicial branch of the Roman Empire."

This declaration makes it sure sound like they are Christian Taliban.

The more I look the more dangerous they appear to be. This man is looking for a fight, calls it oppression when he breaking the law and twists things around in a way that anyone but a tRump follower would see through in an instant.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
40. ..The FDA has not approved the drug, nor has it been recommended by its panel as a treatment for COV
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:36 AM
Feb 2022

Sad case for everyone.



.................The FDA has not approved the drug, nor has it been recommended by its panel as a treatment for COVID-19, although it is currently under clinical trials. Nonetheless, its use as a treatment for the disease has gained traction after a West Texas doctor hailed it as a "silver bullet," claiming, at the time a report was conducted by News West 9, that he had seen a 100 percent success rate treating his patients with the drug.................

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