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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:09 PM Feb 2022

Jury in Sarah Palin v. New York Times libel trial learned of judge's plan to throw out suit

Source: Politico

Jurors in former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s libel trial against The New York Times became aware during deliberations that the judge overseeing the case had ruled that it should be thrown out, the judge disclosed in an order on Wednesday.

U.S. District Court Judge Jed Rakoff said that after the jury returned a unanimous verdict in favor of the Times in the case on Tuesday, one of his law clerks learned that some on the panel had received alerts on their phones on Monday when Rakoff announced, outside the presence of the jury, that he planned to toss out the case because Palin’s lawyers had failed to prove their case to the high standard of evidence required in libel suits against public figures.

“These jurors reported that although they had been assiduously adhering to the Court’s instruction to avoid media coverage of the trial, they had involuntarily received ‘push notifications’ on their smartphones that contained the bottom-line of the ruling,” the Manhattan-based Rakoff wrote in a two-page order.

While rulings by judges to throw out a case at the close of a civil or criminal jury trial are not uncommon, many legal experts faulted Rakoff for revealing his plan in the middle of the jury’s deliberations. Doing so raised the prospect that jurors would learn of his decision and that it might prompt them to side with the Times regardless of their view of the evidence.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/16/jury-in-sarah-palin-v-new-york-times-libel-trial-learned-of-judges-plan-to-throw-suit-out-00009498

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Jury in Sarah Palin v. New York Times libel trial learned of judge's plan to throw out suit (Original Post) Calista241 Feb 2022 OP
Damn, now you know Klondike Barbie will appeal. ificandream Feb 2022 #1
She was going to appeal in any case, as the judge pointed out. Martin68 Feb 2022 #11
Why the fuck is the jury allowed to have smart phones during deliberations? Nt AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2022 #2
excellent question Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #6
That was a big mistake. ificandream Feb 2022 #8
They didn't reach an agreement on a verdict that day, so they all went home. Calista241 Feb 2022 #16
The jury's gone rogue! Blue Owl Feb 2022 #3
I Wonder If P-Nutt Feb 2022 #4
Uh-oh. Could this mean a mistrial? ancianita Feb 2022 #5
No but it will raise an issue on appeal. former9thward Feb 2022 #9
What error inthewind21 Feb 2022 #18
There was no reason whatsoever to release his decision before the jury gave a decision. former9thward Feb 2022 #20
So what? They weren't sequestered or directed not to read the news. n/t FSogol Feb 2022 #7
So what? former9thward Feb 2022 #10
Palin's case had no merit and was rightfully dismissed by both judge and jury. Taking Palin's side FSogol Feb 2022 #12
It is not a question of taking a "side" former9thward Feb 2022 #14
It would have been up for appeal anyway because Palin only cares about fundraising off of attention FSogol Feb 2022 #15
Not even close inthewind21 Feb 2022 #19
The case, under the current rules, had no merit. Calista241 Feb 2022 #17
I doubt it will make any difference because the judge dismissed it on the merits. yellowcanine Feb 2022 #13

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. They didn't reach an agreement on a verdict that day, so they all went home.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 01:47 PM
Feb 2022

Then they came back in the next day for additional deliberations.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
18. What error
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022

He made the decision OUTSIDE of the presence of the jury. That the jury can't follow instructions and not have their phone set to get news alerts while they are serving on a jury (what part of no news did they not understand?) isn't the judges fault. If anything the jury would be the cause.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
20. There was no reason whatsoever to release his decision before the jury gave a decision.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:28 PM
Feb 2022

That was the error. A Judge should never assume a jury will follow instructions perfectly. They are not employees.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
10. So what?
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 10:42 PM
Feb 2022

The jury learned of the judge's ruling and so went ahead and found for the defendant. What is the point of deliberating the facts if a judge has already made a ruling that what the jury is doing doesn't matter.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
12. Palin's case had no merit and was rightfully dismissed by both judge and jury. Taking Palin's side
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 12:07 PM
Feb 2022

doesn't give her case any more merit. It will be rejected by the next court too.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
14. It is not a question of taking a "side"
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 12:25 PM
Feb 2022

The Times admitted they ran a false story. It was the jury's job to establish the facts. Now that is up for appeal because of how the judge handled it.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
15. It would have been up for appeal anyway because Palin only cares about fundraising off of attention
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 12:31 PM
Feb 2022

and slights. She's not funding her case, RW dark money is funding it. They have no reason to stop.

Plus the story wasn't false, it was incorrect and the NYT admitted it. Palin failed to show any evidence that she was harmed by the story and that was why it was thrown out. It should be easy to show she profited off the error since she is still attempting to do that.
Whining about the judge's actions is a nothingburger.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
19. Not even close
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:36 PM
Feb 2022

Palin herself knew she wouldn't win. It's been widely reported WHY she is suing the NYT. Maybe a news push alert will fill you in.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
17. The case, under the current rules, had no merit.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 01:50 PM
Feb 2022

This case is about getting to the Supreme Court, and having them revise the NYT v Sullivan case. This pretty egregious error by the judge, by announcing his decision publicly before the jury reached a verdict, and the jurors seeing that their continued deliberations were moot, almost ensures the appeals court takes up the case.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
13. I doubt it will make any difference because the judge dismissed it on the merits.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 12:19 PM
Feb 2022

If the appellate court agrees that it should have been dismissed what the jury thinks is moot.

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