US Capitol attack panel discusses subpoena for Ivanka Trump

[L. Coyote]

Source: theguardian.com

The House select committee investigating the Capitol attack is considering issuing a subpoena to Ivanka Trump to force her cooperation with the inquiry into Donald Trump’s efforts to return himself to power on 6 January, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Any move to subpoena Ivanka Trump and, for the first time, force a member of Trump’s own family to testify against him, would mark a dramatic escalation in the 6 January inquiry that could amount to a treacherous legal and political moment for the former president.

The panel is not expected to take the crucial step for the time being, the source said, and the prospect of a subpoena to the former president’s daughter emerged in discussions about what options remained available after she appeared to refuse a request for voluntary cooperation.

But the fact that members on the select committee have started to discuss a subpoena suggests they believe it may ultimately take such a measure – and the threat of prosecution should she defy it – to ensure her appearance at a deposition on Capitol Hill.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/17/us-capitol-attack-ivanka-trump-subpoena-discussion

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[oldsoftie]

1. Staying out of the public eye doesn't mean we forgot you, Barbie.

[trusty elf]

10. Inmate Barbie

[KS Toronado]

20. Thanks for this meme

saved it and will be emailing it to repugs I know.

[oldsoftie]

31. I wish I knew how to make shit like that!

[ificandream]

2. Just do it. Now.

[lagomorph777]

3. I don't understand why debate is needed.

Subpoena the jerk.

[crickets]

4. +1

[Tacan]

5. What good would a subpoena do?

She would just refuse to comply; it would be sent to the DOJ where it would die a silent death. What are we up to now, 80 or so subpoenas?

[L. Coyote]

7. Subpoenas force a reply or attendance under penalty of the law. Comply or become a criminal.

Anyone can refuse to comply with a court order, but they then face consequences. I'm rather certain Ivanka doesn't want to spen time in an orange jumpsuit in a prison's general population.

Too bad she couldn't be sentenced to serve time in the same cell as Bannon! She'd be racing to comply.

[leftieNanner]

8. I don't think this particular crime

would force prison time. I don't even know if it's a felony. Bannon doesn't think it's a big deal. Doubt Sparkle Princess does either. Besides, they will delay delay delay until there's a different AG and then it all goes away. That's been TFG's MO for his whole life.

I would love to see her in prison garb though.

[calimary]

11. "Delay, delay, delay, til he can make it go away."

That would be the trump way.

[L. Coyote]

12. So you just don't know the facts but have a definitive opinion? Maybe check the facts before

making false claims. After all, you are on the WWW and can use a search engine, right?

2 U.S. Code § 390 - Penalty for failure to appear, testify, or produce documents

Every person who, having been subpenaed as a witness under this chapter to give testimony or to produce documents, willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the contested election case, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by fine of not more than $1,000 nor less than $100 or imprisonment for not less than one month nor more than twelve months, or both.

The criminal offense of contempt of Congress sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not more than $100,000 or less than $100.

Congressional Research Service Report RL34097
Congress's Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: Law, History, Practice, and Procedure
Todd Garvey (May 12, 2017).

[leftieNanner]

14. Thank you for the information

But I think there's a nicer way to say this.

[inthewind21]

27. Well now

That's all fine. Now, tell me how many who have refused have been fined OR jailed thus far. I'll wait. You can use a search engine right?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

18. How many of those who have refused to honor the subpoenas

have actually faced consequences?

Is Bannon actually in prison?

[L. Coyote]

21. Bannon's trial is scheduled.

Your would-be rhetorical question is absurd and ridiculous. You only get sentenced after your trial. And yes, people have served time in prison for contempt of Congress. A review of the actual history reveals that they typically end up complying to avoid criminal charges.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

24. When is it scheduled for?

And surely there will be several thousand attempts to get it to not happen.

I simply have zero confidence that any of them will actually face real consequences.

[Lonestarblue]

13. Clearly, the DOJ is sitting on the Mark Meadows contempt reference.

If the DOJ is refusing to support the Congressional right to issue subpoenas, it is taking away the power of Congress to hold people in government accountable. Why would anyone reapond to a subpoena when they know there are repercussions.

Trump effectively neutered Congress while he was in office. Why is the DOJ not supporting the J6 subpoenas? It’s been many weeks since the Meadows referral.

[L. Coyote]

22. Ask instead WHY DoJ has not charged Meadows.

Once you file charges, the situation changes dramatically and the defendant must be presented with the evidence. That means the defendant can leverage the situation and begin making demands which reveal information DoJ is trying to keep secret for now. Take note of Bannon's case.

Bottom line, the longer this takes, charging a crime, the more worried Meadows should be and the happier we should be about how serious this is. Meadows is one of the coup co-conspirators and when his indictment drops there may be a few other indictment dropping at the same time.

[Wuddles440]

25. I truly hope...

that your faith in this DOJ is ultimately justified. However, based on my professional experience, I do not share your optimism that there's any such investigative or prosecutorial strategy in play at this time. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but the continued inaction by the DOJ on several very high profile matters only erodes public confidence in the credibility of the investigation and the criminal justice system, emboldens those who engaged in criminal actions and their supporters, and makes a mockery of the rule of law. Congress needs to move forward with Inherent Contempt regarding subpoena as it appears DOJ is not committed to pursuing such enforcement on a regular basis. Time is of the essence and further delays will cause irreparable damage to the investigation.

[L. Coyote]

28. Time is not of the essence. Doing a proper job is.

This is the largest criminal investigation in the history of the world, it won't be over in a fortnight.

[Wuddles440]

29. With all due respect...

time is always of the essence and recognizing such never compromises the integrity of the investigation. With the passage of time memories fade, evidentiary materials disappear, vested interest establish effective counter programming, priorities change, media coverage evaporates, and the public moves on to the next shiny object that's currently trending. Justice delayed, is justice denied.

[Bayard]

6. The Big Questions

IF she ever makes it in to testify, will she lie for Daddy? Will she go to prison for perjury? Will the Justice Dept. do anything? Can we see it all on TV?

The thought plickens......

[leftieNanner]

9. There's always the 5th Amendment

[KS Toronado]

15. FailedCoupGuy's most trusted adviser

should have some insights into what happened inside the White House Jan 6th. The truth be known the
committee isn't in any discussions about issuing a subpoena, they've known all along they'll have her in front
of them answering questions. Reason they are leaking to the press a subpoena "might" be headed her direction,
is to make her nervous and see if she does/says something stupid. Would not surprise me if the FBI has legally
tapped her and daddy's phone so they learn exactly what's going on in secret.

[L. Coyote]

19. All coup plotters are probably triangulated full time so they can't even use burner phones.

Every internet connection and phone must have a search warrant to collect everything.

You don't just get to overthrow the USA because you're Putin's buddy.

[TomDaisy]

16. god the look on her face in that picture. like she's so GD proud of herself being the center of attn

[TomDaisy]

17. why do journos say "Dramatic Escalation!" It's the next methodical step of the investigation

Dramatic would be them refusing to touch Ivanka because of her family name

[PSPS]

23. OMG! "discusses!" Shiver me timbers!!111!!!

Pure theater, since it will never be enforced anyway. They'll all skate.

[milestogo]

26. Oh dear, which shoes to wear?

[L. Coyote]

30. Ivanka to limo driver, "Do you know which subpoena to go to today?"

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